[News] Late For Work 3/25: How RGIII Signing Affects Ravens' Draft

[stixfix69]

Playoff conditions playing outside, has always made running the ball a premium, with that said, it is another reason i want Upshaw back....

[eze17]

  34 minutes ago, eze17 said:

The Ram's have case Keenum as their starter, and the Eagle's sam Badford...Not exactly legit in my reality. Niner's have Kapernick, who dosn't want to be there.(even suggesting going to Cleveland tells you how bad he want's out!) The Jet's and the Bronco's should also be mentioned as needing QB, but they don't have anything to give us for a trade to #6.

Keep in mind that the Eagles also signed a backup for $7M a year, a hefty price tag. Chase Daniels has long been a favorite of new Eagles coach Doug Pederson.

I don't think Philly goes QB early in this draft. SF maybe, Rams certainly an option.

Yeah, I forgot about Daniels,sorry. rmcjacket23 sets us straight again!

[Minionhunter]

  12 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

  1 hour ago, stixfix69 said:

i would be very happy if we re-sign UPSHAW, AND DRAFT Jack....

Upshaw is puzzling. Just think about it:
- he was our top pick at that draft;
- he had great vets to learn from, throughout his rookie contract;
- he has no known injuzry issues and tendencies: he was healthy throughout his rookie contract;
- he has no off-the-field and presonal issues;
- ha had his chance to prove himself.
- he has an absolutely thin market

Still, Ozzie doesn't seem to be in any kind of hast to re-sign him.

What can be the reason? What else than him not delivering the kind of performance he was expected to?

He has been a favorite of Harbs and Pees, and i just think they want to see if he can fetch the kind of contract he wants...IMO, he would be vital in keeping Doom and Suggs fresh on passing downs...

There is an NFL cold war between the Ravens and Patriots. I think it is collusion orchestrated by Kraft trying to eliminate the Ravens getting a high comp pick for KO (though they are supposedly in the mix for Upshaw). Think about it, I'm sure that their influence on the competition committee got the eliminating the chop block pushed through since both their top two rivals, Ravens and Denver, both use the zone stretch running scheme and the rule-move was intended to inhibit both teams.

[eze17]

Weddle and Webb as a safety tandem sounds good, so long as Webb can stay healthy. AS for Upshaw, I think the Raven's wouldn't mind bringing him back but not at the price he's expecting. But he's good enough,so I suspect someone will sign him soon, and probably more than the Raven's have offered.

[Bruce_Almty]

Todd McShay is a draft guru is he? That's funny.

[harfordravenfan]

21 minutes ago, Bruce_Almty said:

Todd McShay is a draft guru is he? That's funny.

Weather man and sports analyst, two jobs that pay you for an educated guess

[dirtybird66]

boy, i hope not,MYLES JACK would be disrupting all over the field,yeah i like BUCKNER,but JACK and then the best pass rusher available,high motor guy,like MCCRARY.or the best lock-down corner.

[The Greek]

i have a really good feeling about trent richardson.

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, Minionhunter said:

There is an NFL cold war between the Ravens and Patriots. I think it is collusion orchestrated by Kraft trying to eliminate the Ravens getting a high comp pick for KO (though they are supposedly in the mix for Upshaw). Think about it, I'm sure that their influence on the competition committee got the eliminating the chop block pushed through since both their top two rivals, Ravens and Denver, both use the zone stretch running scheme and the rule-move was intended to inhibit both teams.

1. LOL, no.

2. The Patriots use that same chop block technique, as do all 32 NFL teams, so that makes no sense.

[hen826957]

@rmcjacket23 after l read you quote you reply sound mean. LOL ? "LOL, no" "so that makes no sense"

[EvilWayz]

I don't think this signing is going to affect our draft in any way. RGIII is in the AFC North now, and that's a hard task for him alone. So the question should be how will this affect the Brown's draft.

RGIII is going to have to play the same team who almost ended his career twice now. Not only that, as much as I/we hate the Steelers he has to deal with them twice. I don't know what he's thinking, but this will not be an easy task for RGIII.

I don't care if Hue Jackson is his head coach or not. Lets not act like Hue is some type of guru or something like that. He has absolutely no value with me. in the next 2 years Hue Jackson will be looking for another job, along with his newly acquired QB.

[EvilWayz]

  2 hours ago, Bruce_Almty said:

Todd McShay is a draft guru is he? That's funny.

Weather man and sports analyst, two jobs that pay you for an educated guess

True Dat

[EvilWayz]

  4 hours ago, fusuymada said:

I believe that the Browns will pass on both Goff and Wentz and if the Titans grab Tunsil they will snatch up Ramsey in a heartbeat. The RGIII signing gave them the flexibility to make that move and lock up the best player in the draft. It appears Bosa's draft stock is plummeting fast and for those who don't have the Ravens taking him have at 6 have him falling as far as pick 12. (Speed is much slower than anticipated and he has been well-coached and may have peaked in college and won't get any better). Ravens will trade down with Rams who have a desire for a top QB (Case Keenum is their starter) and if the Browns take Ramsey, then Goff and/or Wentz will be available. They also have three picks in the top 45. Ozzie is drooling. The Ravens will probably do what they did with Flacco and if they feel Hargreaves will be picked, will move back up and grab him. I think the Ravens are targeting Hargreaves and I saw an interview with a Ravens scout that alluded to the fact that he was number 2 on their board behind Ramsey.

Agreed, I hope we stay clear of Bosa.

why???

[eze17]

@rmcjacket23 after l read you quote you reply sound mean. LOL ? "LOL, no" "so that makes no sense"

rmcjacket23 puttin' down the HAMMER OF TRUTH yet once again!

Gotta agree with him...Its pretty obvious that the league is no fan of Baltimore, but they are even more passionate about docking the Patriots whenever they get the chance.

[ravensnj]

4 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

Yes, but there's a definite difference between needing a replacement down the line and not having a starting level QB now. The teams you mention all have legit starting QB's for the next season.

All of these teams will be looking for starting Qb's in the next 1 to 3 years. They are all winning teams, who probably won't be able to draft this high for quite some time. The Ravens are currently in prime position trade down as they are one pick ahead of the Qb hungry 49ers. Now, with the Browns pick up of RG3, the 49ers seem to be the first Qb needy team.

Edited March 25, 2016 by ravensnj

[steelcityraven]

Round 1. L Tunsil - T- Ole Miss Round 2. Will Jackson - CB- Houston Round 3. Shaun Oakman- DE- Baylor Round 4. Malcolm Mitchell-WR- UGA (1st round talent- steal in 4th) Round 4 (from Lions) Travis Feeney- OLB -Wash (Freak / great pass rush) Round 5 (comp) Blake Martinez -ILB- Stanford Round 6 Kolby Listenbee-WR/KR -TCU (speed to burn and KR /PR guy) Round 6. (comp) Tyvis Powell - S- Ohio State (raw -big and can hit) Round 7. Kei Varae Russell- CB - ND (speed and would be a much higher pick but broke leg last season... could be a steal and we will not need him right now)

[law215]

RGIII is there to compete for a starting job and hold things down just in case the Rookie QB they draft needs time to grow. Browns will take a QB at #2. Hue is no fool to ride with RGIII alone. Cowboys would be wise to take a QB instead of putting their hopes on R37 yr old Romo staying healthy an entire season.

[gekaap]

What a ridiculous bunch of nonsense.  OMG!  The Browns did something that won't effect their draft strategy at all, so that means that certain players dropping down the board is much more likely!

Oh, it's also ridiculous to think that one team signing a QB creates an imminent pressure on the Ravens to ignore their biggest weakness, namely the OL on the blind side.

[bioLarzen]

OK, so Upshaw is signed by Atlana. Cool, this may mean we'll still get a comp pick next draft.

[bioLarzen]

3 hours ago, ravensnj said:

7 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

Yes, but there's a definite difference between needing a replacement down the line and not having a starting level QB now. The teams you mention all have legit starting QB's for the next season.

All of these teams will be looking for starting Qb's in the next 1 to 3 years. They are all winning teams, who probably won't be able to draft this high for quite some time. The Ravens are currently in prime position trade down as they are one pick ahead of the Qb hungry 49ers. Now, with the Browns pick up of RG3, the 49ers seem to be the first Qb needy team.

I do understand that - but an immediate need is still a bigger one than one that may arise in a year or two.

Edited March 25, 2016 by bioLarzen

[bioLarzen]

7 hours ago, sami said:

NO ONE trades the #6 pick without getting another 1st round pick.

How would you get another first round pick for your #6 if you trade 2 or 3 spots down? That would be a roughly 300-350-point trade down, which is roughly a bottom half second rounder. Getting 2 first rounders in such a trade would be a pretty dumb one for the other party...

[WNC-Raven]

Maybe I'm being optimistic but I still feel like one way or another 2 QB's will be taken ahead of us. Cleveland has drafted a lot of good defense over the years and it hasn't mattered because they have no QB. I never believed for a minute the Cowboys would spend a top 5 pick on a RB. Whenever Romo goes down the team goes with him. I see them taking a QB as insurance and because even though it rarely happens anymore, having a veteran to mentor your rookie QB is still a good strategy. It is also very reasonable to think a team could trade up to grab one if one of the teams above choose not to draft a QB this year. fingers crossed

[purpledown]

question is will Brandon Williams be gone next year?

[Ugly Ball]

11 hours ago, riseNConquer81 said:

normally i'd laugh at somebody drafting a backup QB with the #2 overall pick, but in the Browns' case: its a more than warranted decision lol.

 Of course it is !
Knowing the Browns luck with QB's, they might at well take one in the second round too...!

Edited March 26, 2016 by Ugly Ball

[RavensFanMania]

11 hours ago, ravensnj said:

Saints too!

We might be able to get 2 first round picks (2016 and 2017) . We are talking franchise Qb here! Yes!

It's not really two first round picks in this scenario, it would be a swapping of this years 1st rounders and a 1st next year and a 2nd this year....atleast.

[Maryland]

Noah Spence falling to our 2nd pick would make the Ravens' draft a success in my book, regardless of who we draft in the 1st.