How does RGIII signing by Browns effect draft?

[CTFan]

Another none QB off the board? In the long run, I think the Browns made just another mistake, but they are the Browns.

[L.A.Ravens]

They will still take a QB at 2.

[trevorsteadman]

Nothing changes. After the way Wentz just threw the ball at his pro day he is a lock for top 3. Either the Browns take him at #2 or someone pays a "king's ransom" for the #1 pick from Tennessee or the #3 pick from San Diego. I thank the lord above that Wentz looked like Aaron Rodgers at his pro day because that makes one of the top 5 players in this draft fall to us. 

[Mt. Crushmore]

Shouldn't stop them from taking a QB at #2

[Gordo52]

If Hue is as smart as I think he is, he'll go Ramsey. But Browns will be Browns, regardless of HC. So I'm assuming they go QB and they bust. 

[CTFan]

I can't imagine the Browns signing RGIII, nor him signing with the Browns, unless there was an agreement that he would start. 

I can also see the Browns drafting Bosa because in addition to being a good player, he also provides some "Bownie Points" with the fan base.

Edited March 24, 2016 by CTFan

[52520Andrew]

Wouldn't be surprised if they decided to draft Bosa at #2 overall

[KBoum]

1 hour ago, Gordo52 said:

If Hue is as smart as I think he is, he'll go Ramsey. But Browns will be Browns, regardless of HC. So I'm assuming they go QB and they bust. 

I think it would be smarter to let the winner of a QB competition of RG3 and lets say Wentz be the starter instead of going all in with RG3. If they can get a franchise QB they should do it imo. When you have one you can draft BPA but right now I wouldnt be comfortable with a QB who hasnt played a snap in more than a year, and whos injury prone and not a fit in all the schemes. RG3 isn't good in the pocket at all

 

but they could still hope for Cook to fall in the early 2nd thats a possiblity. Hue Jackson doenst have a history of drafting QB early. If I remember correctly he traded for Palmer when he was with the Raiders

Edited March 24, 2016 by KBoum

[edthehead]

ok, not going to say,,,

I told you...

I did a mock in jan and said 

I see the browns getting a vet QB and drafting  a QB in the 2nd rd

I also said BOSA will stay home (college) in OHIO

hue was raised in this division he may still go QB with the 2nd pic

but he know defense ,defense and more defense.

remember hue knows QB's,, it's in his blood

 

Edited March 25, 2016 by edthehead

[Wildabeast88]

I think it's very possible the Browns still go QB at the 2nd pick the last time we saw RG3 he kind of sucked so I don't think he is a lock to be the player he was as a rookie. I was off today and watched Wentz pro day and Hue Jackson had the look of a kid in a candy store I think he is all in on Wentz

[KBoum]

9 minutes ago, Wildabeast88 said:

I think it's very possible the Browns still go QB at the 2nd pick the last time we saw RG3 he kind of sucked so I don't think he is a lock to be the player he was as a rookie. I was off today and watched Wentz pro day and Hue Jackson had the look of a kid in a candy store I think he is all in on Wentz

yeah I was off too I've watched it all. Did you see the difference in Goff and Wentz throwing the wet ball? Goff turned the ball and shake his hands to take the water off. Wentz just stood there with the hands all wet trying to throw so we can't compare the 2 throwing the wet balls.

 

The deep out route in the endzone was a thing of beauty. Some NFL QBs can't make that throw. you see all the potentiel in the playaction game as well he's turning his shoulders/hips really well to hit the deep route after a playaction fake.

[ellicottraven]

The fact that it is a 2 yr deal which can in fact end up being a 1 yr deal with 6.5 MM in gauranteed money tells me that QB isn't off the table at #2 quite yet. Before the signing I was convinced with RGIII's signing, the Browns were off the QB bandwagon at #2. But, I feel a little better right now that they may indeed end up taking Wentz or Goff with their first pick.

[Maryland]

RG3 does not affect any decisions regarding what the Browns do at #2. He is not someone whom they can depend on to solve their QB woes, and the low-risk structure of his contract indicates as much.

Basically this is a 1-year deal for both sides. If RG3 does well, the Browns have someone to trade for a decent draft pick, and RG3 gets to revive his career. If RG3 struggles, the Browns can cut him having only paid a little for his services, and RG3 gets to try again elsewhere. In either case, the Browns have a punching-bag QB to start while their rookie QB of the future (Wentz or whoever) sits a year and acclimates to the NFL, learns the playbook, etc.

However, I do not mean to imply that a QB at #2 is guaranteed. They could just as easily draft Tunsil or Ramsey from a pure BPA standpoint and then draft a QB later (there are many to choose from). What I am saying is that the RG3 signing does not change how they will draft. If they were going to draft Wentz at #2, then they will still do that; if they were going to draft Tunsil or Ramsey at #2 then it is not because they signed the unknown RG3. 

[TurkishRaven]

If they don't go qb we will end up getting Stanley or heargraves. No matter what happens we are in a great spot. 

 

I also think other teams would want to trade up to 6 to get their qb before 49ers. We can get a good deal.

[berad]

7 minutes ago, TurkishRaven said:

If they don't go qb we will end up getting Stanley or heargraves. No matter what happens we are in a great spot. 

 

I also think other teams would want to trade up to 6 to get their qb before 49ers. We can get a good deal.

That's what I'm thinking. Even assuming if Cleveland takes a QB, there would be teams trying to jump San Fransisco to get the other top prospect. Even the Eagles at 8 could want to move up. The Rams and Jets would need a lot of capital to move up from 15 and 20, respectively, and I bet Ozzie would be tempted to take it.

[TurkishRaven]

32 minutes ago, berad said:

That's what I'm thinking. Even assuming if Cleveland takes a QB, there would be teams trying to jump San Fransisco to get the other top prospect. Even the Eagles at 8 could want to move up. The Rams and Jets would need a lot of capital to move up from 15 and 20, respectively, and I bet Ozzie would be tempted to take it.

I am all in for trading down. Looks like we did good job in FA but our team is still old. This is a great opportunity for Ravens to get young without loosing talent.

I take 4 or 5 good players over 1 great and 2 good players. 

Edited March 25, 2016 by TurkishRaven

[Supychou]

Agreed with pretty much everything.

The Browns taking RG3 shouldn't change their main QB need. RG3 may become very good again. But "may". And you don't miss a potentiel Franchise QB because you brought a new QB who hasn't been a starter for almost 2 years.

And I think too that we could get a good deal for a QB need team. The Eagles said they still wanted a QB. I wouldn't mind trading down 2 spots if the 3 monsters are gone when we pick (Tunsil, Ramsey or Jack), since we'll still be able to get one of the best players (Stanley or VH3 or Buckner/Bosa) at #8.
And we would get some good picks from the Eagles.

I'm all for it if those 3 players are off the board.

[GrimCoconut]

I don't think it does. Maybe they trade back and still get their guy. They do like trading back. They may still take a QB. It's not like RG3 is really a player no matter how Hue Jackson wants to slice it.

Edited March 25, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[ravensdan]

I have never felt more strongly a team will trade back. If they can get even an average deal their moving back. 

[Sizzlebshu]

On March 24, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Gordo52 said:

If Hue is as smart as I think he is, he'll go Ramsey. But Browns will be Browns, regardless of HC. So I'm assuming they go QB and they bust. 

Agree

[Sizzlebshu]

8 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I don't think it does. Maybe they trade back and still get their guy. They do like trading back. They may still take a QB. It's not like RG3 is really a player no matter how Hue Jackson wants to slice it.

Tbh rg3 is far and away a better player than any qb in this draft

 

that being said, the browns are so desperate to resolve their qb isue that they will take another one just to be certain

[ravensdan]

4 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

Tbh rg3 is far and away a better player than any qb in this draft

 

that being said, the browns are so desperate to resolve their qb isue that they will take another one just to be certain

You know rg has become a punch line but this will be the best coach he's had. It could make a huge difference. 

 

Their front office though should be a punch line. I expect a comedy of errors. 

[Underdogsontop!]

Imo Carson wentz will end up being a better QB then RG3. So either way we benefit. If they take Carson then someone good will fall in our laps. If they stick with RG3 I think they'll continue to be the same old browns. Guess we got to wait and see....

[JoeyFlex5]

If they still take Carson wentz then nothing changes. 

 

If they think rg3 is their guy then we are still choosing between vh3 or buckner most likely, and that leaves wentz on the board One spot before SF so that may give us a coveted spot for a trade back, which im thinking might be our plan A after Steve alluded to it. 

 

If we trade back to LA or HOU then we could target guys like wj3, alexander, floyd, rankins, coleman, tread, lawson, dodd, basically lots more to choose from and less pressure to nail one high pick. An extra 2nd and a future first will be MASSIVE for this team.

[hn68wb4]

They'd be idiots to pass on a QB now. RGIII isn't a lock to regain his rookie form. They should still take a QB at 2, have a battle in TC between the two, start RGIII and it's a win win. If RGIII doesn't regain form then they've still got someone to look forward to and they can just hand over the reins to Goff or Wentz, if RGIII does regain form then they have quite the trade ammo. Though, I must say, I wouldn't be surprised if they did pass because, well, they're the Browns.

[hn68wb4]

20 hours ago, Sizzlebshu said:

Tbh rg3 is far and away a better player than any qb in this draft

 

that being said, the browns are so desperate to resolve their qb isue that they will take another one just to be certain

Not over the past few years he hasn't been, he's been replaced by Cousins - who, although got a nice 1 year payday this offseason, isn't that good.

 

Sure he'll be better (probably) year one, nobody knows where RGIII is right now or if we can regain any sort of starter quality form.

[Mt. Crushmore]

On March 24, 2016 at 3:59 PM, 52520Andrew said:

Wouldn't be surprised if they decided to draft Bosa at #2 overall

I wouldn't surprised by anything. 

[52520Andrew]

1 minute ago, Mt. Crushmore said:

I wouldn't surprised by anything. 

I'd be surprised if they took Shawn Oakman at #2 overall

[ellicottraven]

How does it affect the draft? Simply by allowing Mr. 'Moneyball' to now focus his energy by convincing the Browns to pick FSU's kicker Robert Aguayo #2 overall!

Edited April 4, 2016 by ellicottraven

[jazz1988]

I wonder why The Broncos had not try to sign RG3 instead.I know Kap is more proven as a winner but the upside is still there and he would have been cheaper.