[News] Steve Bisciotti Could See Ravens Trading Back, But Not Up

[rmcjacket23]

16 hours ago, juice78 said:

Hopefully both will pick at a position the Ravens aren't targeting. Maybe the Browns will be the Browns and select a QB with pick #2. Maybe Jerry will pick Elliott with pick #4. That would make #6 better.

True, but its also a terrible decision to pass on a player because he may not be good for you in the first year. 

Picking 6th should never been for a first year impact player. If you want that, FA is the place to get that. We want a player who will be good for a decade, not a year.

If it takes him 2 years to start that decade, I have no issue with that.

[usmccharles]

7 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

True, but its also a terrible decision to pass on a player because he may not be good for you in the first year. 

Picking 6th should never been for a first year impact player. If you want that, FA is the place to get that. We want a player who will be good for a decade, not a year.

If it takes him 2 years to start that decade, I have no issue with that.

Some fans don't think long term. 

[JimmyBlack]

We definitely need someone to give us hope for the next decade.  Elliott would be a superstar running back for 8-10 years.  Ray Rice had good hands and could break a long run on occasion, but we have lacked a serious power running game since the days of Jamal Lewis.  I see Elliott as a hybrid, check-down receiver out of the backfield, who also possesses magical moves on the running plays.  Some people are comparing him to Adrian Peterson in his prime already.  It will be hard not to see him as the best player available if he is on the board.  Unfortunately, we have a glaring weakness at the LT position with the departure of Osemele and Monroe's frequent injury history.  The corner back position isn't looking very sharp right now, too.  Suggs and Dumerville are aging rapidly, not to mention that Suggs is coming off of a major injury at his age.  We need a guy like Bosa, Buckner, Ramsey, Hargreaves, Stanley, et. al., too.  I will be less than happy if we trade down from the best draft position in over a decade and lose out on one of these guys (Elliott included.).

[JetLife94]

10 hours ago, billiejean said:

what? i never mentioned Jack

I'm unaware of other LBs to take in the first round. I didn't mean to imply jack, he in my mind is the opposite of Ragland. As you implied slow, can't cover. 

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

23 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. We would never trade with Jacksonville...they pick in front of us. The idea of trading up is to get ahead of somebody who you think may take your player. Trading with the same team you're trying to get ahead of doesn't make any sense.

2. Trading with Dallas MIGHT make sense...if Dallas is certain they can get the player they want two spots later AND as long as the Cowboys and Ravens aren't interested in the same player.

Problem is...all three teams have similar interests in players, or at least appear to. Defensive help at basically all levels is likely what all three of those teams are looking for.

AND...Dallas would have all the leverage, and as such, I wouldn't have any discussions that didn't involve the 36th pick. They'd be freerollling...they're not gaining or losing value from a pick two spots later, and they don't need the deal at all. They can just pick who they want.

 

1.Yes it does make sense.Your essentially trading draft picks in exchange for the player both of you want.

2.Again,even if they want the same player,the player they could get at #6 and another third rounder might be more appealing than just that player.

[rmcjacket23]

6 minutes ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

 

1.Yes it does make sense.Your essentially trading draft picks in exchange for the player both of you want.

2.Again,even if they want the same player,the player they could get at #6 and another third rounder might be more appealing than just that player.

Umm, no, that still makes no sense. If the player we want isn't the same player as what Jacksonville wants, then they pick their guy and we pick ours without a trade, because we literally gain nothing from the trade. 

You'd trade with Jacksonville only if you thought you both wanted the same player, in which case Jags wouldn't agree to the trade because they wouldn't get the guy they wanted.

The only way it works is if the Jags were indifferent between two players and thus would actually want the third rounder. A bit of a stretch to think that's an option.

Hence why Steve says trading up likely isn't an option. Moving up into the 3-4 range probably costs too much, and moving to 5 doesn't make much sense logistically.

Edited March 25, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[bigcatfrank1]

20 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

22 hours ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

Ravens take Stanley, end of story. Why delay the inevitable? it is obvious that Monroe is not the long term answer. Even if Stanley doesn't start at LT he gets ready and Monroe shows that he is worth the money, if not a lot of people will be in a heap of trouble.

A possibility certainly, far from a foregone conclusion.

We don't even know if the Ravens have a high grade on Stanley, much like we don't know that he'd even be there to be picked.

True, Ok let me rephrase, I would be quite surprised to see the Ravens trade back. Although there is always a long shot...while NOT a foregone conclusion... Stanley would and does make the best sense to me, in my quick temper, make Mcjacket correct my verbiage, let me state how this article pretty much says that they wont trade back unless the offer is "an offer they cant refuse", statement above. If the Ravens were to have Stanley at #6 I think he is the guy they pick. If I look at the board, I think that most teams will pass on him at this time because he is NOT what they are in need of the MOST. So there you have it.

Edited March 25, 2016 by bigcatfrank1
correct spelling

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

True, Ok let me rephrase, I would be quite surprised to see the Ravens trade back. Although there is always a long shot...while NOT a foregone conclusion... Stanley would and does make the best sense to me, in my quick temper, make Mcjacket correct my verbiage, let me state how this article pretty much says that they wont trade back unless the offer is "an offer they cant refuse", statement above. If the Ravens were to have Stanley at #6 I think he is the guy they pick. If I look at the board, I think that most teams will pass on him at this time because he is NOT what they are in need of the MOST. So there you have it.

There's also no guarantee we even like him as a player, let alone the 6th pick.

The entire premise of him being a possible selection for us, as of now, is largely based on mock drafts.

[Halshayeji]

On March 24, 2016 at 9:31 PM, dirtybird66 said:

i think with all the off season moves they will now be targeting JACK depending on how his health grades turn out,but now at %80 i bet they feel like they can still get him if they draft back a bit.that would be the perfect scenerio,but the RAVEN'S are never pressed.they made the moves they did so they wouldn't be,every year is different,if they end up working a deal with FREENY,which i love then BUCKNER'S def off the table.JACK when healthy is the best bang for the buck,pick.it's just gonna be fun to see how it play's out,can't hardly wait!

I think your right to a certain extent. All the off season moves indicate that out FO have their eyes on a MLB in this draft. Jack is a great player but my only concern is that knee. I'm not concerned about him playing in 2016. It's the possibility of the injury coming back that worries me. If our FO feels that way then I wouldn't be surprised if they have Daron Lee ahead of him on our board. I could see Ozzie comparing Jack vs Lee plus a 3rd rounder if we trade back.

 

like you, I would love to see Freeny here. He wouldn't start but would be a great insurance policy if Suggs or Doom get hurt. If not we have a great rotation and a positive locker room presence. I don't believe tho that Freeny would take Buckner off the table. Buckner is a 300 pound stud that's probably never gonna play OLB and Freeny is probably solely gonna play OLB. 

 

I love the passion and like you I can't wait! In Ozzie we trust!