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Honest predictions for the coming season

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1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Man... When you add up everything, it's absolutely mind blowing. We were a God awful team devastated by injuries that could have quite literally been 10-6 or better had the refs not blown games and if we just had one bounce on occasion. 

 

Absolutely everything went against us last year, except for when everything also went against the browns lol

John Harbaugh effect

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7 hours ago, Wildabeast88 said:

Why exactly do you think playoffs is a stretch refs cost us 3 games we had 4 starting QBs a WR corp that had Aiken and a bunch of guys who couldn't make any 53 man squad no Suggs no LT a field that swallowed up Tucker and cost us a game a ridiculous bounce vs the Bengals and our 1st round pick didn't see the field that there if that changed puts us at 10-6 and 9 of the loses were less than a TD and we beat the Steelers twice have faith. It's like we have 2-1st round picks with Perriman coming back 

1. Because I never bought the idea that refs cost us three games.

2. Because there were games we won that we probably shouldn't have won also... see Browns.

3. We struggled to beat bad teams.

4. We were largely healthy for about a third of the season. We won one game during that span.

5. Our defense was the healthiest I can remember it being in many years.

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15 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. Because I never bought the idea that refs cost us three games.

2. Because there were games we won that we probably shouldn't have won also... see Browns.

3. We struggled to beat bad teams.

4. We were largely healthy for about a third of the season. We won one game during that span.

5. Our defense was the healthiest I can remember it being in many years.

Realistically its one, the Jacksonville game. 

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4 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Realistically its one, the Jacksonville game. 

Which I could argue against all day long, since fans like to reduce 4 hours of play down to a single snap, which never makes sense.

 

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Just now, rmcjacket23 said:

Which I could argue against all day long, since fans like to reduce 4 hours of play down to a single snap, which never makes sense.

 

I agree with you, the only reason I say its realistically one is that the NFL came out and said they made the wrong call and the game should have ended.  Not too many times the NFL admits a game should of went the other way. 

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6 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

With the history of. This matchup I am almost willing to root against us for the greater good of the season. 

 

I'll deal with my stepdad and co. Gladly and I'll just say "you know what happens when you beat us, right?..."

That is true 2000 and 2012 as long as we beat the Cowboys because their fans are absolutely awful to listen to pus when they talk junk I can still play the you have never beaten the Ravens card 

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29 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Realistically its one, the Jacksonville game. 

I would also say Raiders game the call on Hill after the pick was a joke also the Denver game could have been a win last play of the game they made a great play. I thought I remembered another game the refs admitted they blew a call SD? I can't remember right off. 

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55 minutes ago, Wildabeast88 said:

I would also say Raiders game the call on Hill after the pick was a joke also the Denver game could have been a win last play of the game they made a great play. I thought I remembered another game the refs admitted they blew a call SD? I can't remember right off. 

he made contact well beyond the 5 yards of the LOS and its why they threw the flag for defensive holding.
2 hands on a receiver beyond 5 yards will draw a flag like it should.

great play would have been him making the INT without using bad technique....

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1 hour ago, Wildabeast88 said:

I would also say Raiders game the call on Hill after the pick was a joke also the Denver game could have been a win last play of the game they made a great play. I thought I remembered another game the refs admitted they blew a call SD? I can't remember right off. 

Disagree.  We also had a roughing the passer penalty that we deserved, it was dumb but it was a penalty.  Hill call I can see being called majority of the time

Denver, we just lost, tried to make a play but didn't, their defense did. 

Im not going through every game and saying this could of changed that, etc...I say realistically only Jacksonville because its a game that the NFL came out and admitted that they got wrong, that doesn't happen often.  But, we are what our record says we are. 

 

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19 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

he made contact well beyond the 5 yards of the LOS and its why they threw the flag for defensive holding.
2 hands on a receiver beyond 5 yards will draw a flag like it should.

great play would have been him making the INT without using bad technique....

Illegal contact is like holding it could be called on every play if you want to get technical. Some of the calls are pretty weak and some obvious ones don't get called. I personally thought that was a weak call but I won't argue it because that could go all day WRs extending arms and no calls and some barely making contact and getting flagged.

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9 minutes ago, Wildabeast88 said:

Illegal contact is like holding it could be called on every play if you want to get technical. Some of the calls are pretty weak and some obvious ones don't get called. I personally thought that was a weak call but I won't argue it because that could go all day WRs extending arms and no calls and some barely making contact and getting flagged.

Fine by me... as long as fans start learning that using subjective calls vs no calls to make a case for why a team lost a game is just a horrific argument.

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19 minutes ago, Wildabeast88 said:

Illegal contact is like holding it could be called on every play if you want to get technical. Some of the calls are pretty weak and some obvious ones don't get called. I personally thought that was a weak call but I won't argue it because that could go all day WRs extending arms and no calls and some barely making contact and getting flagged.

No matter how you want to slice it , it was a good call and thus not a great play by Hill.

That call did not cost us that game because it was the correct call.

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35 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Fine by me... as long as fans start learning that using subjective calls vs no calls to make a case for why a team lost a game is just a horrific argument.

I get it there were other plays that could have made a difference. The roughing the passer play that was stupid or not getting defensive stops. it just makes you mad when there is worse stuff that doesn't get called or like the Daniel Brown PI against either Miami or SD where the CB fell down and they called offensive PI when there was no contact the biggest complaint is conistency on the refs for what is or Is not being called.

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Just now, Wildabeast88 said:

I get it there were other plays that could have made a difference. The roughing the passer play that was stupid or not getting defensive stops. it just makes you mad when there is worse stuff that doesn't get called or like the Daniel Brown PI against either Miami or SD where the CB fell down and they called offensive PI when there was no contact the biggest complaint is conistency on the refs for what is or Is not being called.

And by other plays that could have made a difference, I'm specifically referring to practically all of the plays where we got outplayed in many of those games.

Oakland beat us because they were a better football team than us for most of the game.

Ref lack of consistency has been a problem since the beginning of football. It's only now amplified because television shows it to you in slow motion 10 times.

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The should be a lot better this year if they stay healthy. The schedule is not really that tough they have some tough games like the Pats game and I think they go 4-2 in division and they'll probably lose one game against NFC teams. So for a bounce back year I say they go at worst 10-6 or at best 12-4 and make playoffs.

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On March 25, 2016 at 1:17 PM, rmcjacket23 said:

1. Because I never bought the idea that refs cost us three games.

2. Because there were games we won that we probably shouldn't have won also... see Browns.

3. We struggled to beat bad teams.

4. We were largely healthy for about a third of the season. We won one game during that span.

5. Our defense was the healthiest I can remember it being in many years.

So make a prediction. It's not like your gonna get fired if your wrong lol. Are you trying to say that there's no way this team wins 10 games?

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37 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

So make a prediction. It's not like your gonna get fired if your wrong lol. Are you trying to say that there's no way this team wins 10 games?

Why make a prediction when I'll change it 6 weeks from now?

We're going to be adding at least 6-7  more players to this team...think they may have some impact on our record?

Thats why this is a May or later type question, not a March one.

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37 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Why make a prediction when I'll change it 6 weeks from now?

We're going to be adding at least 6-7  more players to this team...think they may have some impact on our record?

Thats why this is a May or later type question, not a March one.

I agree, but maybe for some it's fun.  You do have fun every now and again, right? 

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I'll say best case scenario is 9-7. Joe has never shown consistency over a full season. Even with rosters much better than this he couldn't get to 13 regular season wins. One game (or quarter) he'll look like Joe Montana the next game (or quarter) you'll wonder if he's ever seen a football before.

 

Hi biggest detriment to improvement is touch (or timing) on the deep ball. He consistently throws it late which leads to underthrows or contested catches if the

receiver has a step or two.

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1 hour ago, 1/28/01 said:

I agree, but maybe for some it's fun.  You do have fun every now and again, right? 

Exactly! I say 11-5 and no one wants to play the revamped Ravens in the playoffs!

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46 minutes ago, Hardbaugh said:

I'll say best case scenario is 9-7. Joe has never shown consistency over a full season. Even with rosters much better than this he couldn't get to 13 regular season wins. One game (or quarter) he'll look like Joe Montana the next game (or quarter) you'll wonder if he's ever seen a football before.

 

Hi biggest detriment to improvement is touch (or timing) on the deep ball. He consistently throws it late which leads to underthrows or contested catches if the

receiver has a step or two.

Oh wow. That was a bit harsh but also a bit true. Just keep in mind, no quarterback plays consistantly for 16 games. Flacco just needs to take what the defense gives him when things are working against him. No 4 int games. But I do expect him to have a few off nights and our D needs to bail him out some.

we need efficiency more than consistancy. Red zone scoring is vital and 3 and outs will kill any team. Limiting turnovers and forcing a few more may do wonders lol

have some faith. This team was not a typical 6-10 team and has improved greatly this offseason. Steelers bengals and Browns have all lost prity good players this year. 

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2 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Why make a prediction when I'll change it 6 weeks from now?

We're going to be adding at least 6-7  more players to this team...think they may have some impact on our record?

Thats why this is a May or later type question, not a March one.

Fair enough. But I'm gonna ask you this question again in 6-7 weeks. Then you have to make a purple prediction ;)

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1 hour ago, Halshayeji said:

Fair enough. But I'm gonna ask you this question again in 6-7 weeks. Then you have to make a purple prediction ;)

After the draft is fine with me.

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It took an insane amount of bad calls, fluke plays, and injuries to put us at 5-11 last year..and even then, this team wasn't a pushover by any stretch. 

 This year, there are a lot of if's...players that have to come back healthy like Flacco, Suggs, Monroe, Gilmore, Smith sr etc..

 

If we draft well, are relatively healthy, and Flacco is able to come back stronger,then I don't see any reason why they shouldn't  make the playoffs. 

As long as the NFL doesn't try to screw us via terrible scheduling

I don't see 10-6 or 11-5 as a stretch

 

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Looking at our roster on paper and then looking at our schedule,I think we're a 10-12 win team barring any significant injuries to any of our key players.

I think this offense is going to catch alot of people off guard.We we're in the first year of a new offense with two young TE's and an undeveloped Kamar Aiken at number two with no one behind him,yet we were a top ten offense yards wise averaging 22.6 points per game before Joe went down.Had we actually finished the season averaging 22.6 PPG we would've been the 17th ranked scoring offense in the league.Now that we'll have the same offensive system for two years in a row for the first time since 2012 and we've significantly improved at TE and WR,I see this offense finishing somewhere around the bottom of the top ten in scoring and yards per game at the least.

I also think what Buck Allen developed into in the second half of the season is going to add a special pop to our offense that helps it carry the team.He gives Flacco a RB that can take a short pass and turn it into a 10-20 yard play for a first down.That's another thing Flacco and this offense hasn't had since 2012.Our speed down the field along with our possession receivers and TE's over the middle makes Buck my candidate for break out Raven of the year.That underneath stuff could be open for him all day and he knows how to move in the open field.Plus,our OC and QB both love short passes to RB's.They'll probably design a bunch of plays to use him the way we used Rice.

The draft and our new/returning pieces on defense is another thing that I think will get us to the double digits.As long as our defense stays relatively healthy and the return of Suggs and addition of Weddle and Webb to our safety corp makes them a respectable/solid unit,we're good.If Myles Jack or Deforest Buckner falls to us at 6th,that could also make the defense respectable.We don't even need our defense to be a shut down group.Flacco and this offense could guide an atleast good enough unit to a double digit record.We just need a defense that isn't giving up 5 td's in a game,37 points to offenses like Oakland,reviving Kapernick and handing out career days to guys like Josh McCown.And barring any significant injuries to key players like I said in the beginning,I think we'll have that.

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