[News] Steve Bisciotti: Eugene Monroe Is Our Left Tackle

[thecommish]

It is fine if we keep Monroe....but we better have an insurance plan. He has shown nothing to make anyone think that we can count on him. Yes he has talent but all the talent in the world dont keep Joe safe from the bench!

[J.O.14]

  7 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

  14 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

Well.... I still really think we are after Tunsil or Stanley in Rd.1! But if Biscotti is sincere... I think our draft looks very different. Round1. Patrick Ramsey - CB- FSU (insert and Start) Round # 2...William Jackson -CB- Houston (could also start and in a conference with AJ Green and Anotonio Brown, CBs are in high demand) Round 3. Shaun Oakman - DE -Baylor (giant-can add to the pass rush) Round 4. Malcolm Mitchell - WR -UGA (Stud WR if not for inj would be a 1st round pick and maybe top WR in this seasons draft- worth the pick here) Round 4 (from Lions) Travis Feeney - OLB - WASH (beast / freak pass rusher who could become the replacement for Suggs / Doom down the road) Round 5 (comp) Blake Martinez - ILB - Stanford (a jim harbs recruit who is a tackling machine and can help to replace DSmith and compliment CJ well) Round 6 Kolby Listenbee - WR /KR - TCU (speed to burn and can PR /KR) Round 6 (comp) Tyvis Powell -S - OSU (hitter with size / can grow under Leslie Frazier... has a lot of talent but also a very raw football player.). Round 7. Tayler Fallen - T- Memphis (Giant at 6'7" nearly 350 and can move fairly well) He will be an upgrade over Hurst and while a little bit of a project has enough ability to push Monroe for sure!

A month ago Tunsil and Stanley were considered top teir prospects. Since then, Tunsil has moved head and heels ahead of Stanley. Stanley really did himself a disservice at the combine with his interviews and horrible measurable for a top 5 prospect. 

If for whatever reason Tunsil falls to 6 then Ozzie should take that pick to the bank! If Stanley is there at 6 I think we take someone else or trade out. Your probably right. Take someone in the second with more potential and slide him to LG until he's NFL ready to play LT.

I hear you on Stanley... but I really wonder if some of these guys are purposely sabotaging their interviews to ensure they get taken later by a perennial contender. I mean Come on... Stanley is a ND graduate - he is surely not a dumb guy.... its kinda like Shane Rey getting caught smoking weed 4 days before last years draft. He knew he was a top 10 pick... that pushed him back to later in RD 1 where he was able to be taken by the Broncos and finished his rookie season with a super bowl ring?

I highly doubt it, because if I'm not mistaken, I believe there is a couple million reasons to go in the top ten. I mean dollars being the couple million reasons. If they slide that far back in the draft I'm pretty sure they lose a good bit of money, so I don't imagine that's the case.

[757RavensFan]

15 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

Well.... I still really think we are after Tunsil or Stanley in Rd.1! But if Biscotti is sincere... I think our draft looks very different. Round1. Patrick Ramsey - CB- FSU (insert and Start) Round # 2...William Jackson -CB- Houston (could also start and in a conference with AJ Green and Anotonio Brown, CBs are in high demand) Round 3. Shaun Oakman - DE -Baylor (giant-can add to the pass rush) Round 4. Malcolm Mitchell - WR -UGA (Stud WR if not for inj would be a 1st round pick and maybe top WR in this seasons draft- worth the pick here) Round 4 (from Lions) Travis Feeney - OLB - WASH (beast / freak pass rusher who could become the replacement for Suggs / Doom down the road) Round 5 (comp) Blake Martinez - ILB - Stanford (a jim harbs recruit who is a tackling machine and can help to replace DSmith and compliment CJ well) Round 6 Kolby Listenbee - WR /KR - TCU (speed to burn and can PR /KR) Round 6 (comp) Tyvis Powell -S - OSU (hitter with size / can grow under Leslie Frazier... has a lot of talent but also a very raw football player.). Round 7. Tayler Fallen - T- Memphis (Giant at 6'7" nearly 350 and can move fairly well) He will be an upgrade over Hurst and while a little bit of a project has enough ability to push Monroe for sure!

As much as I would love for this to happen, Ramsey is not falling to the 6th pick.  I would be absolutely shocked if he makes it past SD's 3rd pick.  

[usmccharles]

4 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

As much as I would love for this to happen, Ramsey is not falling to the 6th pick.  I would be absolutely shocked if he makes it past SD's 3rd pick.  

Agreed.  There is a possibility that the Titans could take him since Dick Lebeou (sp?) is there and would love to have his version of Troy P.  I think its better for the Titans to take Tunsil thus leaving SD with Ramsey to replace Weddle, ironically

[ALI624]

16 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

Well.... I still really think we are after Tunsil or Stanley in Rd.1! But if Biscotti is sincere... I think our draft looks very different. Round1. Patrick Ramsey - CB- FSU (insert and Start) Round # 2...William Jackson -CB- Houston (could also start and in a conference with AJ Green and Anotonio Brown, CBs are in high demand) Round 3. Shaun Oakman - DE -Baylor (giant-can add to the pass rush) Round 4. Malcolm Mitchell - WR -UGA (Stud WR if not for inj would be a 1st round pick and maybe top WR in this seasons draft- worth the pick here) Round 4 (from Lions) Travis Feeney - OLB - WASH (beast / freak pass rusher who could become the replacement for Suggs / Doom down the road) Round 5 (comp) Blake Martinez - ILB - Stanford (a jim harbs recruit who is a tackling machine and can help to replace DSmith and compliment CJ well) Round 6 Kolby Listenbee - WR /KR - TCU (speed to burn and can PR /KR) Round 6 (comp) Tyvis Powell -S - OSU (hitter with size / can grow under Leslie Frazier... has a lot of talent but also a very raw football player.). Round 7. Tayler Fallen - T- Memphis (Giant at 6'7" nearly 350 and can move fairly well) He will be an upgrade over Hurst and while a little bit of a project has enough ability to push Monroe for sure!

I can guarantee Patrick Ramsey will not be there.

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, thecommish said:

I hear you on Stanley... but I really wonder if some of these guys are purposely sabotaging their interviews to ensure they get taken later by a perennial contender. I mean Come on... Stanley is a ND graduate - he is surely not a dumb guy.... its kinda like Shane Rey getting caught smoking weed 4 days before last years draft. He knew he was a top 10 pick... that pushed him back to later in RD 1 where he was able to be taken by the Broncos and finished his rookie season with a super bowl ring?

Yeah, there's no chance of this.

1. He probably wasn't going to go top 10 due to the fact that he had a foot injury that turned a lot of teams off (he wasn't able to do drills at the combine).

2. As somebody else already mentioned, money is the reason why this logic doesn't work.

Lets assume you are correct, and he's a top 10 pick. Lets say he goes #8 to Atlanta where Vic Beasley was picked, since they play the same position.

8th pick in the draft got a contract averaging $3.6M per year with an $8.8M signing bonus.

23rd pick in the draft (which remember was a trade up - you aren't guaranteed to play for a contender picking at 23) got a contract averaging $2.3M a year with a $4.9M signing bonus.

So in order to "play for a contender" (which isn't a given, obviously), he would have had to give up $1.3M per year ($5.2M over four years, fully guaranteed), and gets a check for almost $4M less in the first year. 

And remember, this is a college kid. He's never seen any money anywhere close to this.

Frankly, if ANY college player did this, I'd call them a dumb guy.

[Drew P]

19 minutes ago, ALI624 said:

I can guarantee Patrick Ramsey will not be there.

Wasnt he that Tulane guy the Redskins whiffed on?

[ALI624]

6 minutes ago, Drew P said:

Wasnt he that Tulane guy the Redskins whiffed on?

Yep.

[Halshayeji]

3 hours ago, thecommish said:

I hear you on Stanley... but I really wonder if some of these guys are purposely sabotaging their interviews to ensure they get taken later by a perennial contender. I mean Come on... Stanley is a ND graduate - he is surely not a dumb guy.... its kinda like Shane Rey getting caught smoking weed 4 days before last years draft. He knew he was a top 10 pick... that pushed him back to later in RD 1 where he was able to be taken by the Broncos and finished his rookie season with a super bowl ring?

I hear you on Stanley. The only scenario I see this happening is if his advisors or agent know for a fact that there is no way he goes top 3 or 4 and he gets commitments from a few teams around 10ish. Thus he'd just act stuck up in interviews and half butt the combine to fall a few spots. Anything more than that would cost him millions and millions of dollars. I could see something similar with Treadwell where he knows there's no way he goes top 5 so he may as well go just outside of the top 10 and have a QB to throw me the ball but you get how risky and costly something like this would be....

most importantly when you draft in the top 10, teams want a player that's too proud to fall. I would want someone that's pissed off he went 2nd overall instead of someone who celebrates falling out of the top 10

Shane Ray is a horrible example because he didn't just dodge interviews or skip the combine. The dude is a moron! He cost himself about 15 million right there and got himself on the substance abuse list for at least 2 years so basically he's due to random tests any time. That's why teams just looked the other way. 

 

Edited March 24, 2016 by Halshayeji

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

I hear you on Stanley. The only scenario I see this happening is if his advisors or agent know for a fact that there is no way he goes top 3 or 4 and he gets commitments from a few teams around 10ish. Thus he'd just act stuck up in interviews and half butt the combine to fall a few spots. Anything more than that would cost him millions and millions of dollars. I could see something similar with Treadwell where he knows there's no way he goes top 5 so he may as well go just outside of the top 10 and have a QB to throw me the ball but you get how risky and costly something like this would be....

most importantly when you draft in the top 10, teams want a player that's too proud to fall. I would want someone that's pissed off he went 2nd overall instead of someone who celebrates falling out of the top 10

Again, this ignores the fact that you're asking college players who probably have never made a dime in their lives to literally give up at least hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars, just so they can play with a team that they have no idea if they will be good or not 3-4 years from now.

Just doesn't pass the smell test.

[Halshayeji]

8 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Again, this ignores the fact that you're asking college players who probably have never made a dime in their lives to literally give up at least hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars, just so they can play with a team that they have no idea if they will be good or not 3-4 years from now.

Just doesn't pass the smell test.

I didn't ignore that fact. I said I get what the guy is thinking but I highly highly doubt it happening. And if a player does that then I don't want him. It defiantly doesn't pass the smell test but I can't say it's never happened and never will happen. You also can't make the assumption that this guy is dead broke. Maybe he was raised in poverty yes. But the guy went to ND. Why would you completely ignore the possibility that boosters hooked him up and his fam with a few nice jobs?  

 

ps my phone lagged and I didn't get the final edit in lol

[rmcjacket23]

28 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

I didn't ignore that fact. I said I get what the guy is thinking but I highly highly doubt it happening. And if a player does that then I don't want him. It defiantly doesn't pass the smell test but I can't say it's never happened and never will happen. You also can't make the assumption that this guy is dead broke. Maybe he was raised in poverty yes. But the guy went to ND. Why would you completely ignore the possibility that boosters hooked him up and his fam with a few nice jobs?  

 

ps my phone lagged and I didn't get the final edit in lol

Boosters can hook him up all they want... he still isn't making hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars off boosters. 

Whether his parents are rich or not doesn't matter. You know what rich people want? The same thing as what poor people want...more money.

[Halshayeji]

31 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Boosters can hook him up all they want... he still isn't making hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars off boosters. 

Whether his parents are rich or not doesn't matter. You know what rich people want? The same thing as what poor people want...more money.

Hahaaaa

Well said! Touché 

[riseNConquer81]

this is exactly it. long as he can not get hurt, we're actually pretty good at LT.
It'd be nice if we could get somebody else, but if it aint Joe Thomas, really isnt much of a point besides depth. No guarantee any of the rookies from the draft dont get hurt. kind of a crap shoot really.

if we pick up a new guy (that isnt Joe Thomas) what we're really hoping is that that guy is better than James Hurst.

[rmcjacket23]

Ravens coach John Harbaugh refuted owner Steve Bisciotti's claim that Eugene Monroe is "our left tackle."

"My reaction is that those are his comments," said Harbaugh. "I promise you, he does not speak for the organization." It's a little strange Harbaugh and Bisciotti aren't seeing eye-to-eye on this. Ultimately, GM Ozzie Newsome is in charge of roster decisions and it will be his call. Cutting Monroe would save $2.1 million in cap space, though it would also result in $6.6 million in dead money. Harbaugh alluded to a competition at left tackle earlier this offseason. That will be something to watch for in OTAs.

 

 

Source: ESPN.com

Mar 25 - 1:20 PM

[gekaap]

On 3/25/2016 at 2:30 PM, rmcjacket23 said:

Ravens coach John Harbaugh refuted owner Steve Bisciotti's claim that Eugene Monroe is "our left tackle."

"My reaction is that those are his comments," said Harbaugh. "I promise you, he does not speak for the organization." It's a little strange Harbaugh and Bisciotti aren't seeing eye-to-eye on this. Ultimately, GM Ozzie Newsome is in charge of roster decisions and it will be his call. Cutting Monroe would save $2.1 million in cap space, though it would also result in $6.6 million in dead money. Harbaugh alluded to a competition at left tackle earlier this offseason. That will be something to watch for in OTAs.

 

Erm, that quote is Harbaugh responding to Monroe making statements about the league's drug policy. Not a response to Biscotti.

Edited April 3, 2016 by gekaap