[News] Late For Work 3/22: Torrey Smith Offers Opinion On Mike Wallace Taking Over Speedy Role

[ellicottraven]

13 minutes ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

While I think RGIII can regain his previous form. I do think Cleveland will have a hard time risking everything on him at this point. I would not be surprised to see them start RGII and still draft a QB to learn behind him at least for a bit. From what I've read and seen the QB's this year are good and some ready to start but not necessarily do everything. Giving any of them you like, so time to develop and not be forced could go a long way and get them out of their QB sinkhole. At a point you think your new QB is ready then RGIII becomes your backup and solid one at that. And if RGIII makes it impossible to take him off the field then your still set. Would be better than all your eggs in a single basket as the Browns have done in the past.

They might very well draft a QB at some point, but why would they have to invest the #2 pick if the QB is going to sit behind RG3 and learn anyway? They have the 32nd pick which technically is still a first round pick that they can perhaps even get Lynch, Prescott or Connor Cook with. Just thinking out loud.

[raven4evr]

Who cares what TS has to say, he's a 49er. Still miss Anquan! And hope our QB can rebound.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Torrey and Jacoby fooled safeties and the play calling was better and if the Ravens don't use Wallace as such to help confuse the safeties this will not work! He can play decoy for a minute and then hit them up but the Ravens should be three wide to really use him effectively! TE's stay in and block they will get in the way sometimes or slide out late!

[Crusader]

I'm wondering if Joe is going to end up breaking his old record of getting sacked 48 times like he did in 2013. With this current Offensive line it is very possible.

[b93333]

Who cares what TS has to say, he's a 49er. Still miss Anquan! And hope our QB can rebound.

Indeed... many still miss Q.

[b93333]

If RG III winds up in Cleveland he will have had a tour of the two worst organizations in the NFL. Maybe he did something bad in a previous life?

[mearzunkies]

If RG III winds up in Cleveland he will have had a tour of the two worst organizations in the NFL. Maybe he did something bad in a previous life?

lol

[bioLarzen]

Who cares what TS has to say, he's a 49er. Still miss Anquan! And hope our QB can rebound.

So,m who cares about Torrey as he's with another team - but you miss Boldin - who's been with the same team?

[TheFact00]

Yeah i don't know why people or anyone cares about what Torrey Smith has to say about Mike Wallace, All do respect to'em Smith is a local and all and i Respect that, But he chose to go to, 49ers with Boldin i bet they thought they could memic the Superbowl run when he left for the 49ers...boy they were wrong. Anyone i could careless what Smith thinks...

[EdTheMythicalOne]

13 hours ago, eze17 said:

I don't see the Ravens getting involved with Clady...Monroe is o.k. at LT when he's healthy, and Clady seems just as injury prone. My thinking is they go after defense with the 6th pick(Bosa,Ramsey,Jacks) and draft an o-lineman in 2nd or 3rd. I guess if Broncos release Clady the Ravens could take A look, but doubtful of A trade.

Clady has been a full time starter and 4 time pro bowler. He missed most of 2013 with a torn Lisfranc, played all of 2014, and then tore his ACL and missed all of 2015. Monroe played 11 games in 2014 and 6 in 2015 and at the time it seemed like the injuries might be bad enough to cost him his career. He's only played all 16 games of a season once.

I wouldn't touch Clady as a trade candidate for his bloated contract. If some other team is stupid enough to trade for him then so be it. If he indeed does get cut then it wouldn't hurt for the Ravens to see what the market is for his services at that time. If you get him for the right price perhaps Clady becomes your LT and Monroe can slot over to LG or RT. Wagner becomes the back up tackle at that point. Of course if you know you are going to sign Clady you cut Monroe at that point if that is the move you want to make. You don't cut Monroe before you have Clady, that would just be stupid. There are bound to be more cap casualties and cuts during the off season so who knows who might be out there.

Edited March 23, 2016 by EdTheMythicalOne

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Also I don't buy the notion that the first 2 picks are going to be QBs. Chris Collinsworth has an active imagination and loves being a contrarian. As much as I would love for this scenario to occur (for obvious reasons), I don't think it will. It is in fact more probable that no QBs will be taken before we pick especially considering the Browns are close to signing RGIII. They may still go QB, but chances are reduced they will.

There is always a chance because at least one of the top two picks needs a QB of the future and then another team who maybe values the leftover guy more than the one that just got picked pulls the trigger and trades up to get their guy.

RGIII is not even close to being a sure thing and with how fragile he is you better have a good back up plan. Most definitely the Browns go QB with their pick.

Another poster asks why you would take a QB so high if you already have RGIII? There are several reasons for this and you can look at the Packers as to one reason. Even if RGIII does manage to work a miracle and look like the sensational rookie version of himself, who knows how long he can do it? You need a very talented guy that will have time to learn the system from one of the best QB coaches in all of football right now in Hue Jackson and becomes the foundation of your franchise in years to come. And that is the key word, talent. Generally speaking you expect a guy drafted in the first round to have a lot more talent than a guy drafter in the second or third.

The only scenario when you don't do this is if for some reason you grade one of the other guys slotted to go lower in the draft close to or nearly the same as one of the top guys. In this draft there seems to be a pretty clear cut 1-2, everyone else is a tier below that.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

I really hope this offense can come together. I am not sure how much SSSr has left in the tank, but figuring he is coming out of retirement for one more year because "he ain't goin' out like that, he ain't goin' out like that," leads me to believe you're going to get 150% of whatever he's got. Who knows what's going on with Perriman. After him you got Wallace and Aiken...maybe they're enough if the others go down with injuries along with Ben Watson and a mix of Gillmore and Williams. I'd love to see Campanaro on the field too, but he's always getting hurt. Ravens will draft a WR at some point, even if it is just a return specialist.

The O-Line as it is currently constructed does leave room for worry. Health will be a huge factor to the overall success of the team in 2016, but really, that's not any great revelation.

[Halshayeji]

  6 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Also I don't buy the notion that the first 2 picks are going to be QBs. Chris Collinsworth has an active imagination and loves being a contrarian. As much as I would love for this scenario to occur (for obvious reasons), I don't think it will. It is in fact more probable that no QBs will be taken before we pick especially considering the Browns are close to signing RGIII. They may still go QB, but chances are reduced they will.

While I think RGIII can regain his previous form. I do think Cleveland will have a hard time risking everything on him at this point. I would not be surprised to see them start RGII and still draft a QB to learn behind him at least for a bit. From what I've read and seen the QB's this year are good and some ready to start but not necessarily do everything. Giving any of them you like, so time to develop and not be forced could go a long way and get them out of their QB sinkhole. At a point you think your new QB is ready then RGIII becomes your backup and solid one at that. And if RGIII makes it impossible to take him off the field then your still set. Would be better than all your eggs in a single basket as the Browns have done in the past.

I honestly don't get these Browns. Their #1 objective this year is to secure the QB position for years to come. But yet they continue to play musical chairs. I swear I'd probably shoot myself if I was a fan lol

[usmccharles]

2 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

I honestly don't get these Browns. Their #1 objective this year is to secure the QB position for years to come. But yet they continue to play musical chairs. I swear I'd probably shoot myself if I was a fan lol

I doubt they would be banking on RG3 to turn into anything other than a backup with potential trade bait later down the road if he had to come in and showed promise.  There is no way they pass on a QB. 

[ellicottraven]

4 hours ago, Halshayeji said:

I honestly don't get these Browns. Their #1 objective this year is to secure the QB position for years to come. But yet they continue to play musical chairs. I swear I'd probably shoot myself if I was a fan lol

Precisely. They just want to project an air of understanding, confidence and know how about how the Browns are proceeding moving forward. However, they send the opposite vibes of confusion, cluttered thinking and a loser's mentality.

[Drinkmore Beer]

Why would you replace one injury-prone OT with another? Makes no sense.

[Halshayeji]

59 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Precisely. They just want to project an air of understanding, confidence and know how about how the Browns are proceeding moving forward. However, they send the opposite vibes of confusion, cluttered thinking and a loser's mentality.

I don't think they are sending opposite vibes to confuse everyone. I really believe that they have no idea what they want and thus we are all confused trying to predict their next move lol

2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I doubt they would be banking on RG3 to turn into anything other than a backup with potential trade bait later down the road if he had to come in and showed promise.  There is no way they pass on a QB. 

Logic would say bring RG3 and lock him up for a year or 2. If he regains his old form then they struck gold. If he gets outplayed by whoever they draft, even better! And McCown is not going anywhere. I'd die laughing if RG3 decides to go elsewhere and someone trades up to first overall and snatch whoever they planned on taking.

 

watch as the Browns screw this up once again because they are too cheap to spend some of their unlimited cap on a quarterback and too cheap to move up to 1st overall. Watch them draft another HOF LT and waste his prime blocking for a bunch of bums