Play Ozzie for the day and trade for Joe Thomas

[757RavensFan]

In today's LFW article, Jason La Canfora stated that the Ravens could be a possible (but highly unlikely) team interested in a trade for CLE Joe Thomas(LT).

If you were Ozzie, what would you trade to CLE (player and/or picks) for Joe Thomas?  

[ludy51]

Depends on how much they would ask for and how bad it would hit our cap

[Purple_City39]

Nope.  Cleveland would want too high of a draft pick as Thomas is still a good player.  And his 9.5M cap hit this year and 10M the next two years wouldn't be in the team's best interest.  At 32, it wouldn't be smart to extended him long enough to reduce that.

 

[TDubbs]

Without question. Joe Thomas is a HOF level LT who has been stuck in a bad situation his entire career. The cap hit at 9.5m for the 2016 season at 31 years of age may be a difficult one to absorb. It depends how steep the price is in the end, I wonder what they are asking and would it be reasonable considering the circumstances. 

[itscbm5042]

2nd and 3rd round picks, cut Monroe, cut Elam, Lewis, and any non-essential chaff that is taking a mil or 2 in cap space. You can try to restructure it, but for a top LT thats border-line affordable... don't have to reach for an OT in the 1st round can draft pack to recoup 2nd and 3rd lost in the trade.

I would try hard to make that happen and its a fair deal, one that we can immediately make up for by trading back if necessary.

[rmcjacket23]

I think we are asking the wrong question...

The real question is... what is the likelihood that the Browns even give ANY consideration whatsoever to trading basically the best LT in football to a division rival? How frequently do you see this happen in NFL history?

I think they'd do it for the #6 pick in the draft or possibly a future 1st rounder.

Other than that, I'd think they'd laugh in our face.

Also, for what its worth:

Browns EVP of football operations Sashi Brown said the team is not planning to trade LT Joe Thomas.

There have been rumblings Cleveland's roster teardown could include trading the six-time All-Pro. "That's not our plan at all," Brown said. "Our plan is not to trade Joe Thomas." Brown left some wiggle room by using the word plan. While it may be true Cleveland is not planning a trade right now, those plans could change if the right offer comes in or Thomas decides to force his way out of yet another roster rebuild. Thomas has played every snap since the Browns made him the No. 3 overall pick in the 2007 draft.

Source: Tony Grossi on Twitter

Mar 21 - 10:03 AM

[rmcjacket23]

9 minutes ago, itscbm5042 said:

2nd and 3rd round picks, cut Monroe, cut Elam, Lewis, and any non-essential chaff that is taking a mil or 2 in cap space. You can try to restructure it, but for a top LT thats border-line affordable... don't have to reach for an OT in the 1st round can draft pack to recoup 2nd and 3rd lost in the trade.

I would try hard to make that happen and its a fair deal, one that we can immediately make up for by trading back if necessary.

1. I wouldn't necessarily say its a fair deal for the Browns. If I were them, I wouldn't trade Joe Thomas to us for less than a first round pick.

2. You just cut all the depth we have at safety. Good luck filling those gaps with no cap space. Heck, we don't even know if Webb will be any good at safety, and he's certainly not the most durable player on the team.

Has the makings of a 2014 level secondary at that point.

If I had to cut Monroe, Elam, Lewis and maybe another player or two AND give up a second and third round pick for a LT who is 32 years old and already costs a lot, I wouldn't even like the deal from our perspective.

[Supychou]

I'd try to scam the Browns.
Monroe + our 2nd round pick for Joe Thomas.

[ludy51]

9 minutes ago, Supychou said:

I'd try to scam the Browns.
Monroe + our 2nd round pick for Joe Thomas.

You'd probably just get dead air.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because the browns FO would be stunned by the amazing deal they would get!

/s

[757RavensFan]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I think we are asking the wrong question...

The real question is... what is the likelihood that the Browns even give ANY consideration whatsoever to trading basically the best LT in football to a division rival? How frequently do you see this happen in NFL history?

I think they'd do it for the #6 pick in the draft or possibly a future 1st rounder.

Other than that, I'd think they'd laugh in our face.

Also, for what its worth:

Browns EVP of football operations Sashi Brown said the team is not planning to trade LT Joe Thomas.

There have been rumblings Cleveland's roster teardown could include trading the six-time All-Pro. "That's not our plan at all," Brown said. "Our plan is not to trade Joe Thomas." Brown left some wiggle room by using the word plan. While it may be true Cleveland is not planning a trade right now, those plans could change if the right offer comes in or Thomas decides to force his way out of yet another roster rebuild. Thomas has played every snap since the Browns made him the No. 3 overall pick in the 2007 draft.

Source: Tony Grossi on Twitter

Mar 21 - 10:03 AM

It's just a "what if" for craps and giggles to kill time during this off- season.  So again, if you were Ozzie what would you offer for Thomas? 

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, 757RavensFan said:

It's just a "what if" for craps and giggles to kill time during this off- season.  So again, if you were Ozzie what would you offer for Thomas? 

A 2nd round pick and nothing more. And then I'd watch it get rejected.

[GrimCoconut]

Ryan Mallett straight up for Joe Thomas. They need a QB amiryt?

Edited March 21, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[ludy51]

3 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Ryan Mallett straight up for Joe Thomas. They need a QB amiryt?

But he's our future starter!

[GrimCoconut]

4 minutes ago, ludy51 said:

But he's our future starter!

We can hopefully get by with our somewhat average and overpaid QB who doesn't know how to throw people in stride with Joe Thomas...I hope.

Edited March 21, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[JoeyFlex5]

3 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I think we are asking the wrong question...

The real question is... what is the likelihood that the Browns even give ANY consideration whatsoever to trading basically the best LT in football to a division rival? How frequently do you see this happen in NFL history?

I think they'd do it for the #6 pick in the draft or possibly a future 1st rounder.

Other than that, I'd think they'd laugh in our face.

Also, for what its worth:

Browns EVP of football operations Sashi Brown said the team is not planning to trade LT Joe Thomas.

There have been rumblings Cleveland's roster teardown could include trading the six-time All-Pro. "That's not our plan at all," Brown said. "Our plan is not to trade Joe Thomas." Brown left some wiggle room by using the word plan. While it may be true Cleveland is not planning a trade right now, those plans could change if the right offer comes in or Thomas decides to force his way out of yet another roster rebuild. Thomas has played every snap since the Browns made him the No. 3 overall pick in the 2007 draft.

Source: Tony Grossi on Twitter

Mar 21 - 10:03 AM

I think you may be underestimating Cleveland's stupidity and overestimating their dedication to winning lol

[Deflated Football]

Without hesitation. Send them Eugene Monroe and a second round pick and possibly a late rounder and call it a day. 

[CTFan]

I'd give them Flacco for Thomas and a 2nd rounder, then draft Wentz.

[rmw10]

Nordly Capi... Straight up. 

[PolishRifle]

Eugene Monroe + our 1st round pick. Yeah, I said it. Joe Thomas is better than any prospect we could get this year in the draft.

Edited March 21, 2016 by PolishRifle

[ellicottraven]

No because I don't want to give up any draft picks in this draft and more because we have zero chance at trading for Joe Thomas from Cleveland.

[1/28/01]

2 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

We can hopefully get by with our somewhat average and overpaid QB who doesn't know how to throw people in stride with Joe Thomas...I hope.

I laughed and cried at this

[beanfigger]

If we were willing to go to $8M for KO, and the offer came to exchange our first rounder for Thomas and maybe a 3rd or 4th from them (why not just try to own every single 4th rounder this year?), then it would be hard for me to see the downside. That's the type of deal I think works.

[Underdogsontop!]

6 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Ryan Mallett straight up for Joe Thomas. They need a QB amiryt?

How about we send browns Mallet and Monroe for Joe Thomas and a 3rd round pick.... Hahaha I'd think Joe Thomas is tired of being on the browns and would want to be in Baltimore! 

[Halshayeji]

7 hours ago, itscbm5042 said:

2nd and 3rd round picks, cut Monroe, cut Elam, Lewis, and any non-essential chaff that is taking a mil or 2 in cap space. You can try to restructure it, but for a top LT thats border-line affordable... don't have to reach for an OT in the 1st round can draft pack to recoup 2nd and 3rd lost in the trade.

I would try hard to make that happen and its a fair deal, one that we can immediately make up for by trading back if necessary.

I don't think the browns would even dream of getting a 2nd and a 3rd for Joe Thomas. I believe a 4th and a 6th would get it done and I'd like that if it happens. Mankins was traded for a 4th just a few years ago. He was just as good a player and was the the same age and carried a cheaper contract l. However, the bigger obstacle here is the contract. The Ravens could pay him 4 mil up front as a signing bonus and the cap hit for this year would drop to around 5 mil and around 10.5 mil the remaining two years.  

 

7 hours ago, TDubbs said:

Without question. Joe Thomas is a HOF level LT who has been stuck in a bad situation his entire career. The cap hit at 9.5m for the 2016 season at 31 years of age may be a difficult one to absorb. It depends how steep the price is in the end, I wonder what they are asking and would it be reasonable considering the circumstances. 

His cap hit is 9.5 for the Browns but some of that is dead cap. The Ravens would only inheret the base salary (non guaranteed part) and would probably need to redo it. If Ozzie pulls this off we probably have a top 5 line this year and next! 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

A. Brown ,M. Elam and E. Monroe plus a 4th rd draft pick  For J. Thomas Clean-up our roster and make cap room all at the same time and get a heck of a LT. Realistically they would probably tell me to stick it. but hey it would be worth the talk just to see. 

[Halshayeji]

8 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I think we are asking the wrong question...

The real question is... what is the likelihood that the Browns even give ANY consideration whatsoever to trading basically the best LT in football to a division rival? How frequently do you see this happen in NFL history?

I think they'd do it for the #6 pick in the draft or possibly a future 1st rounder.

Other than that, I'd think they'd laugh in our face.

Also, for what its worth:

Browns EVP of football operations Sashi Brown said the team is not planning to trade LT Joe Thomas.

There have been rumblings Cleveland's roster teardown could include trading the six-time All-Pro. "That's not our plan at all," Brown said. "Our plan is not to trade Joe Thomas." Brown left some wiggle room by using the word plan. While it may be true Cleveland is not planning a trade right now, those plans could change if the right offer comes in or Thomas decides to force his way out of yet another roster rebuild. Thomas has played every snap since the Browns made him the No. 3 overall pick in the 2007 draft.

Source: Tony Grossi on Twitter

Mar 21 - 10:03 AM

The Browns may as well want to keep him. But if they trade him, I highly doubt they get anything higher than a late 3rd for him. 

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

The Browns may as well want to keep him. But if they trade him, I highly doubt they get anything higher than a late 3rd for him. 

Yes, that's the price... for non-division teams. They ain't doing that deal with the Ravens, Bengals, or Steelers.

[beanfigger]

Trent Richardson went for a first round pick, and people are saying a late 3rd for Thomas? A 4th and a 6th? A 4th and a bunch of our next players?

 

Is Madden this easy? Maybe I should try and play that game. Fantasy life is fun.

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, beanfigger said:

Trent Richardson went for a first round pick, and people are saying a late 3rd for Thomas? A 4th and a 6th? A 4th and a bunch of our next players?

 

Is Madden this easy? Maybe I should try and play that game. Fantasy life is fun.

There was also about a decade in age difference AND several million dollars in salary difference there. Not the best comparison.

[Halshayeji]

4 hours ago, PolishRifle said:

Eugene Monroe + our 1st round pick. Yeah, I said it. Joe Thomas is better than any prospect we could get this year in the draft.

You'd be paying brand new Lamborghini money for a 5 year old Ferrari. Heck id gladly drive it but why over pay? The Browns won't get anything more than a 3rd round pick for him. And Yes! Of course he will play better than any prospect in 2016. Tunsil and Stanley are projected to be better from 2018-2025 when joe is done playing. That's why you spend a top ten pick on one.