Rumor mill: ryan clady

[Willbacker]

5 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'll admit he wasn't THe only one at fault but considering the defenders approach the play differently I'd say Hurst got beaten as badly as Jensen. Hursts man had a longer path to the qb and literally went through his blocker in the same time it took jensens man to go past him. 

 

If your starting LT gets put on skates and rammed into your qb in less than 2 seconds then he got beaten horribly lol. I do get your point though.

Joe had already released the ball and if a defender had hit him it would have been a roughing call and to be fair it does depend on the call on how long you have to hold a block. A lineman normally gets driven back some on pass plays for obvious reasons. Hurst did give up some bad sacks during the year and most defintly is gonna have to step up during training camp and preseason to preserve his spot on the roster and I do understand your concerns about the LT position. We don't want to see Joe go down again from a blindside hit.

[FastEddie]

No thanks, I would rather take our chances with Monroe. Make or break year for his career...making me think potential bounce back.

[lgcs27288]

1 hour ago, FastEddie said:

No thanks, I would rather take our chances with Monroe. Make or break year for his career...making me think potential bounce back.

He's on twitter saying his shoulder feels amazing and that he is going to be in amazing shape.

[Winchester]

When playing Clady is 1000 times better than Eugene that is the difference. If Clady plays he is amazing. Monroe is serviceable and always was just serviceable. Cladys injury was serious but has been very durable minus the season ending injury. If you are going to roast him for it then Suggs and Perriman should get the same treatment. But what is that  Homers say about Suggs?? Oh yeah He is returning to anchor the defense?? After Achilles I jury 2.0 And SS was pretty banged up before his big Achilles injury but at 37 he is hardwired in as the #1 receiver. I think I remember reading an article how players wearing a ravens uniform heals faster and will return 100%. I would love to hear more about this interesting phenomena!! Nobody is saying give up an early pick or big contract. is apparent he will play on prove it money that is cap friendly But reward on Clady is vast.

[jazz1988]

27 minutes ago, Winchester said:

When playing Clady is 1000 times better than Eugene that is the difference. If Clady plays he is amazing. Monroe is serviceable and always was just serviceable. Cladys injury was serious but has been very durable minus the season ending injury. If you are going to roast him for it then Suggs and Perriman should get the same treatment. But what is that  Homers say about Suggs?? Oh yeah He is returning to anchor the defense?? After Achilles I jury 2.0 And SS was pretty banged up before his big Achilles injury but at 37 he is hardwired in as the #1 receiver. I think I remember reading an article how players wearing a ravens uniform heals faster and will return 100%. I would love to hear more about this interesting phenomena!! Nobody is saying give up an early pick or big contract. is apparent he will play on prove it money that is cap friendly But reward on Clady is vast.

 Suggs(Unlike Clady) didn't have back to back season ending injuries and at any age it's tough to rehab from two injuries at once .  Clady or Monroe it really doesn't change The Ravens need for a solid back up  left tackle because I  doubt The Ravens would be able to fit both Monroe and Clady on the team.

Edited March 18, 2016 by jazz1988

[Maryland]

Monroe and Clady are two different types of injury-prone. Monroe has a chronic shoulder injury that will affect him the rest of his career, an injury which extends back to his college days. In contrast, Clady has dealt with more "freak" injuries: a lisfranc in 2014 and an ACL in 2015. Knowing this, I would value Clady more than Monroe simply because Clady has a chance of being a reliable starter again. Monroe may never have a serious "freak" injury the rest of his career, but his shoulder problem will always make him questionable to start. 

I would sign Clady only if he is cut and only if he agrees to a cheap 1-yr prove-it deal. I'm sure that, if he is signed, a caveat would be that we cut Monroe to let Clady start, otherwise there is no incentive for him to come here and revive his career. 

However, given the dearth of LTs around the league, I have a feeling Clady signs with someone with more money and a greater need at LT. Clady and the Broncos were very far apart on contract negotiations, so Clady's camp must still think pretty highly of himself, which would not bode well for signing a cheap deal with the shrewd Ravens.  

[Cawtious]

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Willbacker said:

Why does Hurst keep constantly getting blamed for Joe getting injured when what actually happened was Jensen got beat and pushed his guy into Hurst who was busy blocking at the time causing him to fall into Joe.

Jensen was picking up a twist.  He recovered from getting beat and shoved his man to the ground.  The Rams player engaged with Hurst saw his teammate go down behind Hurst and shoved Hurst over him into Joe.  It's football.  Looking for someone to blame on an injury is asinine.  I think we need to stop railing on this completely.  What exactly will it change?  Nothing.

[Gordo52]

On March 18, 2016 at 3:28 PM, lgcs27288 said:

He's on twitter saying his shoulder feels amazing and that he is going to be in amazing shape.

Probably high as hell lol

[lgcs27288]

5 hours ago, Gordo52 said:

Probably high as hell lol

Lol very possible. No wonder he's such an advocate of the Mary j

[rmw10]

6 hours ago, Gordo52 said:

Probably high as hell lol

Lol'd +35

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

On 3/18/2016 at 3:53 PM, Winchester said:

When playing Clady is 1000 times better than Eugene that is the difference. If Clady plays he is amazing. Monroe is serviceable and always was just serviceable. Cladys injury was serious but has been very durable minus the season ending injury. If you are going to roast him for it then Suggs and Perriman should get the same treatment. But what is that  Homers say about Suggs?? Oh yeah He is returning to anchor the defense?? After Achilles I jury 2.0 And SS was pretty banged up before his big Achilles injury but at 37 he is hardwired in as the #1 receiver. I think I remember reading an article how players wearing a ravens uniform heals faster and will return 100%. I would love to hear more about this interesting phenomena!! Nobody is saying give up an early pick or big contract. is apparent he will play on prove it money that is cap friendly But reward on Clady is vast.

Clady didnt play very well last year, and then missed a lot of time the year before that. He wasnt around for either of the Broncos runs to the Super Bowl.

Totally different scenarios, and Clady hasnt been durable recently... arguably far less durable then Monroe and not much better if at all than Monroe when on the field the past 3 seasons. Before that? Yea Clady was much better.

And this is the problem... you state an opinion and shout homer to the hills... but your opinions are completely unsubstantiated and supported by false info. 

[Clmraven]

If Kubiak doesn't see Clady as a good fit, should we? We're running a similar system. that said he could be better this year since he'll be another year removed from his knee injury, he could be an upgrade over Monroe and who knows maybe Kubes covets a player he coached here in 2014 and we could go with a player for player trade.

 

 

Edited March 23, 2016 by Clmraven

[Ravenseconbeast]

On 3/18/2016 at 1:21 PM, Tru11 said:

you do know he missed the entire season right?

 

So we get another unwanted LT to replace Monroe.   How sound of a plan that would be.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

7 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

If Kubiak doesn't see Clady as a good fit, should we? We're running a similar system. that said he could be better this year since he'll be another year removed from his knee injury, he could be an upgrade over Monroe and who knows maybe Kubes covets a player he coached here in 2014 and we could go with a player for player trade.

 

 

Exactly what I said earlier. Our blocking scheme is based on what Kubiak installed. If he doesnt feel that even a healthy Clady is a good fit (which he actually did say... said they wanted Okung bc hes a better fit for what theyre trying to do up front) regardless of how good or how much better he may be as a player, why would we think hed be a great fit here?

Cant always just evaluate players against each other on talent. Evan Mathis for example, in a power, man blocking scheme is not a very good guard. In a stretch zone scheme he has played at an all-pro level. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Btw, Bisciotti announced Monroe as the Ravens starter at LT. Granted, its what hes supposed to say but he didnt have to come out and announce it to the media. Tells me theyre not actively seeking a replacement in FA. 

Draft may be another story... but i dont see it with the 1st pick. Take a mid-round raw talent with upside.

[Boddiebroadus]

As a personal friend of Clady I think we should totally try to go after him if he gets cut. And if he did come he would def be the starter with Monroe as his back up. 

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Btw, Bisciotti announced Monroe as the Ravens starter at LT. Granted, its what hes supposed to say but he didnt have to come out and announce it to the media. Tells me theyre not actively seeking a replacement in FA. 

Draft may be another story... but i dont see it with the 1st pick. Take a mid-round raw talent with upside.

Yeah, Steve never actually said that.

[BmoreBird22]

36 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yeah, Steve never actually said that.

Hensley had an article with a direct quote from Biscotti at the owners meeting, so yeah, he did.

[rmcjacket23]

6 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Hensley had an article with a direct quote from Biscotti at the owners meeting, so yeah, he did.

Yes, we've all seen the direct quote. It simply says Monroe is GOING INTO the season as the starting LT, because, duh, he's the only person on the roster capable of doing that right now.

Quote says nothing about not drafting somebody, or that he has a Joe Flacco-like grip on the starting job. Hensley can infer whatever he wants to to get click bait, and I'd do the same.

He basically echoed what Harbaugh said a day earlier.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

4 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Yes, we've all seen the direct quote. It simply says Monroe is GOING INTO the season as the starting LT, because, duh, he's the only person on the roster capable of doing that right now.

Quote says nothing about not drafting somebody, or that he has a Joe Flacco-like grip on the starting job. Hensley can infer whatever he wants to to get click bait, and I'd do the same.

He basically echoed what Harbaugh said a day earlier.

Right. But if he said it about Flacco, I think we'd take from it that Flacco will be ready week 1, or at least all available info says he will be and there isnt much question that he wont be.

Similarly here, I think it says that with all the info they have (players available in FA and draft options) that they dont expect anyone theyre planning on targeting or bringing in is going to be a starting LT over Monroe.

[RavensDieHard21]

If Clady was cut and was signed to a one or two year deal based on playing time, then why not. Prior to 2014 he was a top 5 LT. Anywhere around 3-5 million in guarantees is worth the slight gamble

[Winchester]

On 3/23/2016 at 10:59 AM, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Clady didnt play very well last year, and then missed a lot of time the year before that. He wasnt around for either of the Broncos runs to the Super Bowl.

Totally different scenarios, and Clady hasnt been durable recently... arguably far less durable then Monroe and not much better if at all than Monroe when on the field the past 3 seasons. Before that? Yea Clady was much better.

And this is the problem... you state an opinion and shout homer to the hills... but your opinions are completely unsubstantiated and supported by false info. 

Never said he was durable like you claim some to be durable. I acknowledge he has been injured but if he is injury free the reward is far more substantial than the reward on scrub monroe.

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, Winchester said:

Never said he was durable like you claim some to be durable. I acknowledge he has been injured but if he is injury free the reward is far more substantial than the reward on scrub Monroe.

Would you want us to cut Monroe to sign him?

[Winchester]

8 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Would you want us to cut Monroe to sign him?

Maybe, if he is injury free and put through workouts and shows he is a similar athlete to the all pro Ryan Clady.And if he agrees to work harder than before now that he is approaching 30. The opinions from his trainers  and coaches in nfl and Boise is he is so crazy talented he could get by on sheer skill he is blessed with. Most said  he is the most physically skilled tackle in the league since Ogden and did not like to work in the weight room or various drills that players do to keep flexible and sharp. Because he could coast by with his crazy skill. If Clady realizes he now has to work hard then it is welcome to Baltimore Ryan Clady!! He has more power and raw skill than Joe Thomas. If he knows he has to work to get back to all pro form he will be a steal for what he will cost if cut

[edthehead]

if the FO is keeping an eye out for his situation

then I am all for it, not to trade for him though

and I would not cut monroe but trade him.

trade monroe and clady is cut yes then bring him in

of course he has to be healthy and pass our physicals 

 

[Somerset Ravens]

I would be shocked if anyone traded for Clady with his current contract. If Denver cannot get him to renegotiate his contract to a reasonable number they probably will cut him. If Clady is cut, Ozzie should sign him to a contract loaded with incentives.

[usmccharles]

10 hours ago, Winchester said:

Maybe, if he is injury free and put through workouts and shows he is a similar athlete to the all pro Ryan Clady.And if he agrees to work harder than before now that he is approaching 30. The opinions from his trainers  and coaches in nfl and Boise is he is so crazy talented he could get by on sheer skill he is blessed with. Most said  he is the most physically skilled tackle in the league since Ogden and did not like to work in the weight room or various drills that players do to keep flexible and sharp. Because he could coast by with his crazy skill. If Clady realizes he now has to work hard then it is welcome to Baltimore Ryan Clady!! He has more power and raw skill than Joe Thomas. If he knows he has to work to get back to all pro form he will be a steal for what he will cost if cut

Who said he was the most talented T in the league since Ogden, seems a little far fetched to me.  Cutting Monroe to get Clady wouldnt make since considering they both have been dealing with injuries.  So we end up cutting Monroe, Clady comes, if he gets injured we are screwed...well i guess no more screwed than when Monroe went down. 

Seems like a lot of ifs to take on, but of course this is all just in theory....

[BmoreBird22]

If the Broncos get this restructure done with Kap, Clady is all but released to clear $9M in cap space. Have to imagine something happens with him within the next week.

[jazz1988]

37 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

If the Broncos get this restructure done with Kap, Clady is all but released to clear $9M in cap space. Have to imagine something happens with him within the next week.

If he get's cut then I can see him going to The Lions or maybe even The Steelers.

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, jazz1988 said:

If he get's cut then I can see him going to The Lions or maybe even The Steelers.

Steelers have far less cap than the Ravens, although, the Lions would be logical.