Rumor mill: ryan clady

[JoeyFlex5]

Rumors of ryan clady ending up in the trading block after the signing of Russel okung. Obviously the ravens have been linked. These are all rumors of course, but I for one like the idea, With the release of will hill and if Webb takes a pay cut to get paid like a safety, we Will have the room. I think the Broncos would part ways for a 5th round pick if he is really on the market. 

 

As far as his fit... Having 2 injured tackles is of course worrisome, but it's more worrisome having one constantly injured tackle a dumpster fire as his backup, if one guy makes it halfway through the year and the other guy finishes the 2nd half then it's a good move to have both. It really seems like the current best option because Ronnie Stanley at 6 is a reach and there seems to be no other options besides that. Clady as the starter and Monroe as the backup seems like it's absolutely worth it, since I think it really gives us a chance to compete at a high level. All the speed on our offense is wasted with a qb coming off of an acl and no left side protection. I'd be happy with the deal as a stop gap at the very least.

[Purple_City39]

Clady's cap hit for any team he would be traded to is 9.5M in 2016 and 10M in 2017.  I don't think the Ravens will be a legit trade option.  I doubt they'd even be willing to extend him after all the injury concerns with Monroe.  

I think Clady gets cut in the long run since it's obvious he won't be a 10M cap hit backup.  Teams would be smart to wait and go after him as a free agent

[edthehead]

4 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

Clady's cap hit for any team he would be traded to is 9.5M in 2016 and 10M in 2017.  I don't think the Ravens will be a legit trade option.  I doubt they'd even be willing to extend him after all the injury concerns with Monroe.  

I think Clady gets cut in the long run since it's obvious he won't be a 10M cap hit backup.  Teams would be smart to wait and go after him as a free agent

if we did trade for him (or wanted to trade) we could work out a new contract prior, correct

so his cap cap is no longer a problem,

[TurkishRaven]

I am not a football expert but I would love to see us targeting LT before the draft. That's the only missing part in our offense and I don't want us to spend #6 for Stanley..

 

That way we can spend our first 2 maybe even first 3 picks on defense. Hargreaves at 6 and 2 DEs at second and third.

[TDubbs]

I have zero interest in Ryan Clady becoming a Raven. He was a dominant LT from 2009 - 2013 which got him paid very well, but those years are well behind him and he's almost 30. He's had a lisfranc season ender, and last year a ACL tear took his season. I don't see much game left in him and would not be worth any asset we'd have to give up, imo. 

 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I dont know how I feel about it... If we were to trade for him, we'd have to work out a restructure bc he's definitely not worth $9m coming off the ACL injury.

The Broncos know him better than anyone and they've determined that Okung was necessary to bring in. They've signed two tackles this offseason; tells me that they have absolutely no faith in Clady returning to form as a dominant LT. And if they're not confident in it, i dont know how we can be.

I know everyone has lost faith in Monroe to stay healthy, but its not like hes been a career injury risk. Prior to these past 2 years i dont think he missed a game. So, its very possible he comes back and we dont see any further issues. But even if not, all of the alternative options that are being thrown around are bigger question marks than Monroe is... and mostly more expensive.

Clady, Okung, Beachum...any of these guys would have been us trading one injury risk for another. 

I'm ready to ride with Monroe, and hopefully draft a tackle in the middle rounds to develop.

[rmcjacket23]

I see no reason to trade for him, because you wouldn't want to give up a pick + inherit the contract. Easy to say "well just redo the deal", but its not always that simple. 

If he gets released, that's a different story. He's a dominant player when healthy, but he also hasn't been for two years. So we'd have to convince ourselves that he's significantly better and less risky than Monroe.

I'd be intrigued IF we could sign him rather than trade for him AND we could get him at a cheaper rate than Monroe... possibly half of what Clady is currently scheduled to make.

 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

12 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

I see no reason to trade for him, because you wouldn't want to give up a pick + inherit the contract. Easy to say "well just redo the deal", but its not always that simple. 

If he gets released, that's a different story. He's a dominant player when healthy, but he also hasn't been for two years. So we'd have to convince ourselves that he's significantly better and less risky than Monroe.

I'd be intrigued IF we could sign him rather than trade for him AND we could get him at a cheaper rate than Monroe... possibly half of what Clady is currently scheduled to make.

 

I agree... thats the only way it makes sense. They're clearly not going to keep him after signing Okung and Stephenson. 

The only way I'd consider a trade is for a conditional late round pick based on playing time or games started to protect the pick if he doesnt come back from the injury or possibly re-injures himself. He might be open to a restructure since its pretty obvious that he'll be released if a trade partner isnt found, and he thinks that the restructure will give him more money than he would command on the open market.

But, its much better to just wait for them to release him. And I wouldnt want to sign Clady and cut Monroe, bc imo that doesnt do anything to solidify the position. Clady has more potential upside, but is a bigger question mark in terms of health and doesnt do anything to solve the depth issue. 

I still think the better option isnt to go after a bonafide starter, but to sign a swing guy that can play tackle and guard. I'd rather sign a guy like Vasquez than take on a big risk like Clady.

[JoeyFlex5]

You also have to weigh the risk of "do we want flacco dropping back behind Hurst for a whole season?". 

This could be a safety net move and give us a relationship with a guy who could be very quality depth whenever we find our LT for the future. One year of a heavy cap hit and possibly extending him to a team friendly deal afterwards could be very much worth it. The less that flacco gets hit from the left side edge rushers the better, I think one year of cap strapping is worth that peace of mind knowing we have 2 starting caliber LTs. If both go down for the year then it's a horrible situation but I think it outweighs the risk of playing Hurst while flacco is coming off of this injury

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I read somewhere, forget where, but that aside from the injuries Kubiak felt that Clady wasnt a very good fit for his ZBS. Of course, the injury issues and salary are a big part of the decision to move, but the feeling that Okung is much better suited to the blocking scheme also played a large part.

Considering that we've tried to carry on with the foundation that Kubiak put into place, its worth some consideration that Clady's skill set may not be the best fit for what we're trying to do.

[rmcjacket23]

10 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

You also have to weigh the risk of "do we want flacco dropping back behind Hurst for a whole season?". 

This could be a safety net move and give us a relationship with a guy who could be very quality depth whenever we find our LT for the future. One year of a heavy cap hit and possibly extending him to a team friendly deal afterwards could be very much worth it. The less that flacco gets hit from the left side edge rushers the better, I think one year of cap strapping is worth that peace of mind knowing we have 2 starting caliber LTs. If both go down for the year then it's a horrible situation but I think it outweighs the risk of playing Hurst while flacco is coming off of this injury

Well, there's no way we can afford Clady and Monroe, so Monroe would be gone if we signed Clady.

We don't even have the cap space currently to afford Clady on his present deal, so we'd probably have to cut multiple significant players to afford him. Monroe would be one of those guys.

Either way, we are swapping injury risk LT for injury risk LT, which is why I doubt we do it.

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

Why are the broncos replacing Clady?I haven't been following the broncos or watching that many of their games recently,but from what I remember he was a stud at LT.What changed?If they are serious about getting rid of him I say we wait until they release him.There's no point in any team trading for him with those cap numbers when you could wait until he's released and sign him at a lower number.In either case,Webb won't be taking a pay cut.You can be sure of that.

Edited March 18, 2016 by HomeoftheBRAVENS

[Deflated Football]

I can't find anything linking the Ravens to Clady. Does anyone have a source?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

3 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

I can't find anything linking the Ravens to Clady. Does anyone have a source?

I dont think there is anything... its just fan speculation at this point.

If there is anything from a notable source; i think its simply "hey the Ravens lost KO and were interested in finding a replacement LT.... Clady's a LT and could be available. That makes some sense." 

[Winchester]

There is interest It is mild to moderate. Do not see it happening unfortunately.

[Willbacker]

Replacing one injury prone player with another injury prone player makes very little sense plus what money are we using. I say just stick with Monroe,see what shakes out in the draft and then scan the cut wire.

[jazz1988]

22 minutes ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

Why are the broncos replacing Clady?I haven't been following the broncos or watching that many of their games recently,but from what I remember he was a stud at LT.What changed?If they are serious about getting rid of him I say we wait until they release him.There's no point in any team trading for him with those cap numbers when you could wait until he's released and sign him at a lower number.In either case,Webb won't be taking a pay cut.You can be sure of that.

He had two season ending injuries(2014 and 2015) and I guess The Broncos don't trust him been able to pay up to his 2013 form anymore.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

2 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

Replacing one injury prone player with another injury prone player makes very little sense plus what money are we using. I say just stick with Monroe,see what shakes out in the draft and then scan the cut wire.

Agree, 100%

[arnie_uk]

12 minutes ago, Winchester said:

There is interest It is mild to moderate. Do not see it happening unfortunately.

Why do you always post as if You have some insider info? Rather annoying, reminds me of rbates

[cobrajet]

52 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

You also have to weigh the risk of "do we want flacco dropping back behind Hurst for a whole season?". 

This could be a safety net move and give us a relationship with a guy who could be very quality depth whenever we find our LT for the future. One year of a heavy cap hit and possibly extending him to a team friendly deal afterwards could be very much worth it. The less that flacco gets hit from the left side edge rushers the better, I think one year of cap strapping is worth that peace of mind knowing we have 2 starting caliber LTs. If both go down for the year then it's a horrible situation but I think it outweighs the risk of playing Hurst while flacco is coming off of this injury

Agreed. I don't care if we make a trade or draft Stanley, but the thought of Hurst ever filling in again as LT gives me nightmares. He already got Joe injured once, I do not ever want to take that chance again. I really want one of those defensive studs in the draft, but let's not kid ourselves - LT is our biggest need right now. I think there may be a chance Monroe could finally stay healthy this season after he addressed some issues through surgery, but I do not want to chance it. We need another decent Tackle pronto!

Edited March 18, 2016 by cobrajet

[TurkishRaven]

12 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

Replacing one injury prone player with another injury prone player makes very little sense plus what money are we using. I say just stick with Monroe,see what shakes out in the draft and then scan the cut wire.

I think the idea is to keep Monroe and get Clady as a backup in case Monroe goes down. 

[January J]

Well regardless we won't be going into the season with just Hurst and monroe..it will be addressed at some point and likely in the draft in rounds 2-5. spriggs, clark, beavers and Dahl will all be options and will be even better if one of them falls a bit.

[Winchester]

13 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Why do you always post as if You have some insider info? Rather annoying, reminds me of rbates

I get some pieces here and there. Could get more but I do not ask to much.

[Willbacker]

10 minutes ago, cobrajet said:

Agreed. I don't care if we make a trade or draft Stanley, but the thought of Hurst ever filling in again as LT gives me nightmares. He already got Joe injured once, I do not ever want to take that chance again. I really want one of those defensive studs in the draft, but let's not kid ourselves - LT is our biggest need right now. I think there may be a chance Monroe could finally stay healthy this season after he addressed some issues through surgery, but I do not want to chance it. We need another decent Tackle pronto!

Why does Hurst keep constantly getting blamed for Joe getting injured when what actually happened was Jensen got beat and pushed his guy into Hurst who was busy blocking at the time causing him to fall into Joe.

[JoeyFlex5]

5 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

Why does Hurst keep constantly getting blamed for Joe getting injured when what actually happened was Jensen got beat and pushed his guy into Hurst who was busy blocking at the time causing him to fall into Joe.

You want to take another look.. Hurst was absolutely manhandled and bullrushed right into joe, Jensen did get beat and he wouldnt have tripped if Jensen held his guy(which by the way, he typically does pretty consistently, overall Jensen had a very good season) but Hurst was getting rammed into flacco regardless because he got destroyed on the play, which happens often, much more often than Jensen getting beat.

[redrum52]

2 oft injured tackles better than 1 I guess...

[JoeyFlex5]

2 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

2 oft injured tackles better than 1 I guess...

Lol basically. Quality depth for a guy who we can almost be certain Will ride the pine at some point. The high price tag doesn't need to be permanent.

[Willbacker]

9 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

You want to take another look.. Hurst was absolutely manhandled and bullrushed right into joe, Jensen did get beat and he wouldnt have tripped if Jensen held his guy(which by the way, he typically does pretty consistently, overall Jensen had a very good season) but Hurst was getting rammed into flacco regardless because he got destroyed on the play, which happens often, much more often than Jensen getting beat.

I wouldn't call it manhandled he was herding his guy to the outside while Jensen completely got beat on that play and Hurst fell backwards over his unblocked guy. Hurst didn't have a great year that's for sure but he gets overly blistered especially over the Joe injury.

[JoeyFlex5]

15 minutes ago, Willbacker said:

I wouldn't call it manhandled he was herding his guy to the outside while Jensen completely got beat on that play and Hurst fell backwards over his unblocked guy. Hurst didn't have a great year that's for sure but he gets overly blistered especially over the Joe injury.

I'll admit he wasn't THe only one at fault but considering the defenders approach the play differently I'd say Hurst got beaten as badly as Jensen. Hursts man had a longer path to the qb and literally went through his blocker in the same time it took jensens man to go past him. 

 

If your starting LT gets put on skates and rammed into your qb in less than 2 seconds then he got beaten horribly lol. I do get your point though.

[Tru11]

you do know he missed the entire season right?