Post Combine & Free Agency Mock 2.0

[RavensDieHard21]

I know this forum is getting flooded by mocks, but this will be my last one until the draft. I won't attempt to do any fancy trades because I feel they're much more unrealistic than just selecting where we are drafting. Now it is showtime. 

RD 1 (6) The Ravens select.......

Joey Bosa - I know it still feel like a long shot, but I seen numerous articles stating that the 49ers plan on keeping Kap after the offer from the Browns was not appealing enough to deal him. For another strange reason, I see Dallas coveting Ramsey, Elliot or Jack more, which leaves Jacksonville to take either Jack, Hargreaves or Buckner which would all be better fits than Bosa. Landing Bosa at 6 would give us the best player on the board and he will be a great part of our rotation due to his ability to be an elite edge setter who will hopefully develop into a stud QB Mauler. I like his work ethic, motor, and technique, which will all make him another pillar to rebuilding the classic Ravens D.

RD 2 (36) Mackensie Alexander- Many suspect that he won't be there and maybe Jackson III will be instead, which I would be fine with too, but many mocks have Alexander going in the second as there are many questions still surrounding how pro-ready he is right now and whether Clemson's pass rush helped significantly or not. Regardless of speculation, his work ethic, dedication to film study, instincts, and love for the game will help him raise his skillset even more at the pro level and I see him within two to three years becoming a premier cover corner. The kid is young and just tapping into his potential. He has instincts and is physically gifted, he just needs to be coached well under Frazier to learn to turn that head around and make plays on the ball when it is in the air! 

RD 3 (70) Tyler Boyd- If Jaylon Smith is still on the board I would roll the dice on him, but I see Boyd's average 40 time keeping him in the back end of the 2nd to top of the third. Despite speed questions, his hands are vice grips and that is something the Ravens covet, especially since SSS is gone after next year and Aiken hasn't been signed to a long-term deal yet. Boyd is tough as nails and will go over the middle to make tough catches and I could see him developing as a nice security blanket for Joe. 

RD 4 (104) Willie Beavers- Beavers is interesting as he is slated somewhere between round 3 and 4, which I am hoping he will be here when we are on the clock. His footwork and athleticism are tremendous, especially when working in space, which is great here in our ZBS. The knock on Beavers is that he will need a year or two to bulk up and gain strength to move defenders in run blocking and to avoid being overpowered by bull rushers. As far as his footwork though, he is near the top of his class in that regard and would be a potential lock after Monroe. 

Targets for the other two 4th rounders are

RD 4(130) Yannick Ngakoue- Everyone on here knows of his 2015 production at Maryland, but many scouts always like to disregard or put less value on kids from less competitive conferences. I don't actually think that this is a long shot at all, and I think if Boyd is gone in the third as well as Smith that Beavers should be the pick and Yannick moves up to the top of the 4th. He had 45 QB pressures this year and 13 sacks, mainly based on his relentless motor and lateral quickness that he gains when coming around the bend. He might need to add to his arsenal to become a pro level pass rusher and probably some more strength, but one of the most attractive traits in a pass rusher is their motor and competitive nature, which I think both could make him a good situational pass rusher early on. 

RD 4 (132) Miles Killebrew - whom many see as being a hybrid LB/S at the next level as he is very good at delivering punishing blows and solid tackling, but also can cover tight ends and running backs with his speed and athleticism. With Weddle and Webb back there, he could be utilized in certain packages and learn from Weddle as he comes along. If he is able to adapt and come along strong in sifting through traffic on run plays, he might very well have the potential to be our ILB next to Mosley too.

RD 4 (134) Jeremey Cash from Duke as he would in due time become our future in the box play maker that we hoped Will Hill would be. Cash makes solid tackles and intimidates receivers. He is very instinctive and coaches say that he has a gift to know where ball is going to go before it arrives. With Bosa or Alexander giving us some teeth in our defense, we get to add one last player to give us a smash mouth unit going forward. 

Alright let's hear your thoughts!

Edited March 18, 2016 by RavensDieHard21

[usmccharles]

I'd be pretty damn happy here.   But I don't see the 2nd and 3rd round picks being there,  but if so...we come away with a much improved team day one imo

[RavensDieHard21]

I just wanted to have a little bit of hope ! We always land one slider, which in this case is Bosa, but we can cross our fingers for a couple more. Do we have three or four 4th rounders. Different sources have varied between us having 3 and 4. The one that stated 4 said we got it from Denver?

[Jacquouille]

10% chance this happens, imo.

Alexander in the 2nd is possible, I've seen it. Overall it's not bad at all  

[GrimCoconut]

I knew you'd get responses like this. For the record, I would've done my mock with the same top four picks. I think they're very possible but it felt like too much of a pipedream lol but it's not that unlikely I just prefer a safer mock to show worst case. 

I like Myles but I'm not a fan of the other two.

[RavensDieHard21]

I agree. The hard part is that when you put more realistic picks in those slots everyone is up in arms like " I would never take them that early!" lol so I guess this mock provides a bridge between a pipe dream and a realistic draft. I am not a big fan of Oakmen, but it is hard to gauge who else will be left as other prospects that I like are all rising up boards quickly as pro days are happening. I'll need to tweak his spot.

[GrimCoconut]

1 hour ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I agree. The hard part is that when you put more realistic picks in those slots everyone is up in arms like " I would never take them that early!" lol so I guess this mock provides a bridge between a pipe dream and a realistic draft. I am not a big fan of Oakmen, but it is hard to gauge who else will be left as other prospects that I like are all rising up boards quickly as pro days are happening. I'll need to tweak his spot.

I think a better DL will be there. I just don't like him. This is a stacked DL class so I feel strongly that we'll come away with some talented guy. 

[MrNice20]

I like the trailer park boys reference hahahahah

[RavensDieHard21]

9 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

10% chance this happens, imo.

Alexander in the 2nd is possible, I've seen it. Overall it's not bad at all  

I think that Boyd is perhaps the biggest stretch as many teams in the second will see his dependability in making catches, but many scouts and analysts like Kiper and McShay have him as the 7th or 8th best receiver and this is a stacked defensive draft, so many poor defensive teams might pass on receivers. Alexander at first I thought would not make it out of the first and he might not, but a lot of other bigger corners coming from other successful programs are rising up the boards. I could see VH3, Apple, WJIII, Burns, and maybe even Fuller going ahead of him due to their skill sets and size, but not a definite as i see Alexander as the third safest corner. If he sneaks past the Cardinals and Panthers then I think he could be as good are ours. 

[RavensDieHard21]

2 hours ago, MrNice20 said:

I like the trailer park boys reference hahahahah

I always try to sneak one or two in there. lmao 

[RavensDieHard21]

3 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think a better DL will be there. I just don't like him. This is a stacked DL class so I feel strongly that we'll come away with some talented guy. 

I think that the top ones will fly off the board and be thinned out by the early second round, such as Buckner, Rankins, Robinson, Reed, Jones, etc. But I am intrigued by Sheldon Day from Notre Dame. He has a great motor and explosiveness to get pressure from the interior. He just needs to get stronger to hold up better when his explosiveness doesn't initially win at the line.  

[L.A.Ravens]

4 hours ago, MrNice20 said:

I like the trailer park boys reference hahahahah

My brother keeps telling me to watch those guys but never got to it yet.

[JoeyFlex5]

If wj3 and Apple go before Alexander then I think he very well could fall to us. Does Tennessee take him though? That's the question

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

If wj3 and Apple go before Alexander then I think he very well could fall to us. Does Tennessee take him though? That's the question

Tennessee could go anyway, they have a lot of holes. I think they will take a defensive lineman to fortify the trenches where they're pretty weak

[GrimCoconut]

You think Tennessee doubles down on secondary after taking Ramsey? I seriously doubt it. 

[ravensdan]

6 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

You think Tennessee doubles down on secondary after taking Ramsey? I seriously doubt it. 

You think Tennessee goes with Ramsey?  I'm starting to lean that way myself. I have a feeling they don't see the value of adding another LT with lewan playing well there. I'm not so sure moving one to RT makes the most sense. Draft another player for RT later. It's not like Ramsey is a drop off talent wise. 

[GrimCoconut]

4 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

You think Tennessee goes with Ramsey?  I'm starting to lean that way myself. I have a feeling they don't see the value of adding another LT with lewan playing well there. I'm not so sure moving one to RT makes the most sense. Draft another player for RT later. It's not like Ramsey is a drop off talent wise. 

I think Tennessee takes Ramsey. Only way I can see that possibly change is if they move back. In which case I think a trade up or taking Ramsey is still likely depending on how far the trade back.

[RavensDieHard21]

16 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

You think Tennessee doubles down on secondary after taking Ramsey? I seriously doubt it. 

 

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think Tennessee takes Ramsey. Only way I can see that possibly change is if they move back. In which case I think a trade up or taking Ramsey is still likely depending on how far the trade back.

I have seen many articles saying they want to emphasize building a stout D for Lebeau. So I see them taking Ramsey too, as for some odd reason they are willing to pass Tunsil.

1.) Ramsey 2.) Goff 3.) Tunsil 4.) Elliot/ Jack/ I also heard jerry is very interested in Lawson and scheduled a private workout for a trade down 5.) Buckner or Jack fits best 6.) we land Bosa! I am telling you all lol

[GrimCoconut]

24 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

 

I have seen many articles saying they want to emphasize building a stout D for Lebeau. So I see them taking Ramsey too, as for some odd reason they are willing to pass Tunsil.

1.) Ramsey 2.) Goff 3.) Tunsil 4.) Elliot/ Jack/ I also heard jerry is very interested in Lawson and scheduled a private workout for a trade down 5.) Buckner or Jack fits best 6.) we land Bosa! I am telling you all lol

I wouldn't be surprised if he took Lawson. Jerry Jones is a curveball GM and it's a bit tough to guess his mind and picks lately. 

[RavensDieHard21]

10 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I wouldn't be surprised if he took Lawson. Jerry Jones is a curveball GM and it's a bit tough to guess his mind and picks lately. 

I agree there. Jacksonville has a mysterious board! Everyone has them taking Jack, but if he goes before, would they take buckner? 

[JoeyFlex5]

Speaking of curveball I gotta ask.. Does anyone think that Kevin dodd showed his true colors against Alabama? Or was that an aberration? He was never in the level of dominance that he was in that championship game, if that is the true kind of player he is then I'd say he's a top 10 talent and should be a trade back target, however I don't know if thats the player he really is

[RavensDieHard21]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Speaking of curveball I gotta ask.. Does anyone think that Kevin dodd showed his true colors against Alabama? Or was that an aberration? He was never in the level of dominance that he was in that championship game, if that is the true kind of player he is then I'd say he's a top 10 talent and should be a trade back target, however I don't know if thats the player he really is

With consistency, he is a top 10 pick at this point. His explosiveness on the field is impressive and he was overwhelming Alabamas line, but I attribute Lawson on the other side and garnering a lot of attention too. Dodd has a unique motor and style that could turn out to be very special.

[GrimCoconut]

12 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Speaking of curveball I gotta ask.. Does anyone think that Kevin dodd showed his true colors against Alabama? Or was that an aberration? He was never in the level of dominance that he was in that championship game, if that is the true kind of player he is then I'd say he's a top 10 talent and should be a trade back target, however I don't know if thats the player he really is

I keep hearing that NFL teams love Dodd and that he will go top 10. I find that a bit rich but it's a surprising read never the less. It may be from the same source, though, just regurgitated. That happens a lot at this time of year.

Edited March 19, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[JoeyFlex5]

9 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I keep hearing that NFL teams love Dodd and that he will go top 10. I find that a bit rich but it's a surprising read never the less. It may be from the same source, though, just regurgitated. That happens a lot at this time of year.

His side and burst and brute strength and surprisingly nimble feet are all extremely attractive assets. Dude is the size of a 43DT but could easily play OLB in a 34. I just don't know if he's gonna continue to be the solid player from every other game, or if he's gonna be the dominant player from the title game.

[Number23]

I think the picks are realistic considering some of the guys who's rising stock has pushed Alexander, Boyd, and Beavers back into those spots. The picks probably get the BPA and fill needs. Get two birds stoned at once, you know.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, Number23 said:

I think the picks are realistic considering some of the guys who's rising stock has pushed Alexander, Boyd, and Beavers back into those spots. The picks probably get the BPA and fill needs. Get two birds stoned at once, you know.

Or we can sign a proven vet so they won't have to learn through denial and error

[ravensdan]

So here's something I heard. A bit of a surprise for me. The jags see fowler as a guy who will kick inside which was quite a surprise to me. Maybe they go Lawson over bosa. 

[Winchester]

I like this mock but why is Kenneth Dixon getting no groupies around here??

[JoeyFlex5]

17 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

So here's something I heard. A bit of a surprise for me. The jags see fowler as a guy who will kick inside which was quite a surprise to me. Maybe they go Lawson over bosa. 

Fowler is extremely physical and his body is far from maxed out because he isn't exactly lean. I see no reason he couldn't pack on 15 lbs and be a DE/DT hybrid. Gus Bradley building his own defense could result in some strange experiments but I have no reason to doubt him

[RavensDieHard21]

11 hours ago, Number23 said:

I think the picks are realistic considering some of the guys who's rising stock has pushed Alexander, Boyd, and Beavers back into those spots. The picks probably get the BPA and fill needs. Get two birds stoned at once, you know.

Exactly! Peach and cake. Lmao