[News] Ravens Releasing Safety Will Hill

[hen826957]

@akacrow Reggie Nelson is good in all but it's going to make our defense much older they should just wine up and trade up to get Ramsey.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

According to the last estimate I saw prior to this cut, this means the Ravens now have about $10 million under the cap. Does this now give them a chance to make a run at Russel Okung for LT? I know the dots haven't been made but it is expected that after coming off of an injury and as he's representing himself that he might come as a relative bargain for a starting LT. I guess it really depends on the health of Monroe, what Okung's offers look like, and if the Ravens can do something with Monroe's contract other than eat it and have huge dead money.

[akacrow]

If the Ravens make a run at Okung it would have to be a show me deal. They would also have to keep Monroe, trading one oft injured OT for another isn't the best move.

Okung might be able to be had for a song, and can play both sides of the offensive line.

[NNITRED]

He's suspend for 10 games but the Ravens began transitioning away from him back in November when they started plugging in Webb at safety. This seems to be a case of raining and pouring. His career is likely over.

[JetLife94]

When I first replied on this thread I was unaware of his 4th strike as of league drug abuse. Only if he passes the test I could see K.lewis getting the axe.

[akacrow]

@akacrow Reggie Nelson is good in all but it's going to make our defense much older they should just wine up and trade up to get Ramsey.

Older and better, Nelson was arguably the best defender in the league in 2015. They also have Webb, who might be better suited at nickle than full time safety. All in all Webb at FS is not too shabby, although there are ??? as to how Webby will hold up vs the run.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

If the Ravens make a run at Okung it would have to be a show me deal. They would also have to keep Monroe, trading one oft injured OT for another isn't the best move.

Okung might be able to be had for a song, and can play both sides of the offensive line.

Looks like the only chance he'd get legitimately to play LT is in Pittsburgh or possibly Denver if they move Clady over. Every other team that is interested in him would probably move him to RT. Okung has played in more games the last two seasons than Monroe. 14 in 2014 and 13 in 2015. There already seems to be about 4-5 teams in the mix so the market is probably too hot for the Ravens.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

@akacrow Reggie Nelson is good in all but it's going to make our defense much older they should just wine up and trade up to get Ramsey.

If they trade up it will be to get Tunsil, the best LT in the draft and perhaps one of the best players in the draft.

[Legendary Ravens]

Will Thrill Hill was a Good Hitter but the Thrill is gone... He was cool

[EdTheMythicalOne]

  14 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

Will "The Thrill" belonged to another, rather obscure Baltimore player, but not in the world of baseball player named Will Clark. Do not besmirch the name of that man.

I besmirch nothing.......people were calling Hill that here. No big deal.

Because people can't be original. Given his track record it could be Will "The Pill" Hill. My comment before was made a bit in jest, but Will Clark was one heck of a baseball player. Even when he was totally over the hill with Baltimore he was putting up impressive numbers.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

  11 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

  31 minutes ago, akacrow said:

Reggie Nelson, please, and thank you.

Been pondering that possibility too, all the guy does is pick off passes all day long. Has to be some reason why teams are shying away from him when guys like Raheem Moore get big deals after completely tanking last year. Yeah, the Raheem Moore that got completely toasted by Jacoby Jones on the Joe Flacco miracle pass in the playoffs.

But with all the safeties we have still on the roster, making a move for Nelson doesn't make sense unless he falls through the cracks and comes on a real cheap deal...in which case...goodbye Kendrick Lewis and Terrence Brooks.

c'mon man it wasnt a miracle pass

70 yards down the field to win the game...yeah, I would say that was a miracle pass alright.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Will Thrill Hill was a Good Hitter but the Thrill is gone... He was cool

Will "Hippy Lettuce" Hill doesn't quite have the same ring to it, does it?

[riseNConquer81]

Hill was far and away the best safety in the corps last season so i was confused initially, but apparently he's out 10 games which means, we wouldnt have him anyway.

a shame, he's a pretty good player.
But this means Elam gets a chance to come back for his old Strong Safety spot. Though i bet Weddle's probably gonna be there now, only because Webb has more range, he's faster.

Our corner need just got bigger though, Webb's probably gonna have to be a full time safety for real now.

[hen826957]

@akaraven True, Reggie Nelson is good but too many 30+ years olds on our team we need a mixture of youth and veterans not too many veterans. Dumervil 32 Suggs 33, Weddle 31, etc Tunsil is good but if they trade up they should get Ramsey instead. Just my opinion. Myles Jack was my pick the Ravens should choose at first now with Will Hill gone it's a huge hole there now.

[NNITRED]

  9 minutes ago, Legendary Ravens said:

Will Thrill Hill was a Good Hitter but the Thrill is gone... He was cool

Will "Hippy Lettuce" Hill doesn't quite have the same ring to it, does it?

"Hippy Lettuce" ..now that's funny. :0)

[fusuymada]

If he hadn't been suspended again it would have been Webb and not him.  He could very well be done in football

Edited March 16, 2016 by fusuymada
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[Tru11]

3 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Just to be sure I didn't misspeak I went back to gamerewind and watched both Webb and Hill at safety on the coaches view. I find the move to be curious because Hill was the best rated safety on the team, Webb played more at the end of the season because they were testing his abilities not because he did well because he didn't. They were 5-11 so what did they have to lose by testing people's skills. I think Ozzie and John like Webb and are allowing their personal feelings to overshadow common sense and film analysis. Webb is not a hitter and neither is Weddle, both are small and Hill was the only real thumper we had at safety. Like I said, and has been repeated a number of times by a number of reporters, most thought Hill and Weddle would be the starting safeties because they saw what I saw in Webb, an older, often injured ex-cornerback who is undersized at safety and had lost a step. Hill is younger, missed only suspension time and has fixed his errors, is a harder hitter and bigger in size and as stated was the best rated safety on the team by PFF. This move makes absolutely no sense.

he is suspended for 10 games and he was 1 of the worst rated safeties in the 2nd half of the season.

when he got subbed out the defense actually played better.....

its telling that the defense got better while hill got worse and got subbed out.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

4 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Just to be sure I didn't misspeak I went back to gamerewind and watched both Webb and Hill at safety on the coaches view. I find the move to be curious because Hill was the best rated safety on the team, Webb played more at the end of the season because they were testing his abilities not because he did well because he didn't. They were 5-11 so what did they have to lose by testing people's skills. I think Ozzie and John like Webb and are allowing their personal feelings to overshadow common sense and film analysis. Webb is not a hitter and neither is Weddle, both are small and Hill was the only real thumper we had at safety. Like I said, and has been repeated a number of times by a number of reporters, most thought Hill and Weddle would be the starting safeties because they saw what I saw in Webb, an older, often injured ex-cornerback who is undersized at safety and had lost a step. Hill is younger, missed only suspension time and has fixed his errors, is a harder hitter and bigger in size and as stated was the best rated safety on the team by PFF. This move makes absolutely no sense.

Did you miss the whole "WILL HILL WILL BE SUSPENDED FOR 10 GAMES NEXT SEASON" part? That means he can't play until week 11 and at best he'd be playing 6 games the whole season.

I think you need to watch some more tape of Weddle before you decide if he's a big hitter or not, but even without that Weddle caused as many forced fumbles in 2014 as Will Hill has his entire career. Despite being rated the best safety on the team, he was still rated 17th overall. How many teams are there in the NFL? So if your best guy is 17th and then benched because he's letting up too many plays...I think that tells you where your defense is. Webb is a better tackler than people give him credit for. If he's the one that has to tackle the RB all the time, then something's wrong up front and that ain't his fault.

[throwback2000]

Damn Will. I hoped you as our "Box Safety", would compliment Weddle. Then the 10 game suspension came. Self medicating got you in trouble before. Wow!

[surfdude]

Don't get these guys. Get help.

[ellicottraven]

Will Hill what were you thinking man? You had resurrected your career and had a beautiful family here. Now, you put yourself and the Ravens in a terrible situation with your suspension. What else do you expect the Ravens to do but release you? Take care of yourself, go to rehab and get right before coming back to the NFL. You are a good player with bad issues that need to be dealt with ASAP.

[Halshayeji]

21 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

Did you miss the whole "WILL HILL WILL BE SUSPENDED FOR 10 GAMES NEXT SEASON" part? That means he can't play until week 11 and at best he'd be playing 6 games the whole season.

I think you need to watch some more tape of Weddle before you decide if he's a big hitter or not, but even without that Weddle caused as many forced fumbles in 2014 as Will Hill has his entire career. Despite being rated the best safety on the team, he was still rated 17th overall. How many teams are there in the NFL? So if your best guy is 17th and then benched because he's letting up too many plays...I think that tells you where your defense is. Webb is a better tackler than people give him credit for. If he's the one that has to tackle the RB all the time, then something's wrong up front and that ain't his fault.

You know what I find ironic. That's exactly how we got will hill in the first place. He played well for the Giants but kept failing drug tests. They cut him and we pick him up and wait for his suspention. Now we cut him and swallow 1.75 mil in dead cap. Thank you for nothing will.

[akacrow]

  50 minutes ago, akacrow said:

If the Ravens make a run at Okung it would have to be a show me deal. They would also have to keep Monroe, trading one oft injured OT for another isn't the best move.

Okung might be able to be had for a song, and can play both sides of the offensive line.

Looks like the only chance he'd get legitimately to play LT is in Pittsburgh or possibly Denver if they move Clady over. Every other team that is interested in him would probably move him to RT. Okung has played in more games the last two seasons than Monroe. 14 in 2014 and 13 in 2015. There already seems to be about 4-5 teams in the mix so the market is probably too hot for the Ravens.

Okung would compete with Monroe for the LT spot. The only reason the Ravens would have a shot at him is due to his injury.

Some teams without a solid option at LT might not want to take a chance on a player who just had shoulder surgery, having Monroe would make signing Okung much less of a risk.

[dirtybird66]

i say THANK YOU,WILL HILL,he came in when we were really stuggling back there and he held his own,it's not everyday that you can bring in a LEGEND in the making,noone want's to leave the RAVEN'S,but other teams will scoop him up and i thank him for his service.

[law215]

I like the move. Send a message. If guys are not going to be professionals, then cut them. Hill is not so impactful that you keep him after repeated offenses. Hope Ravens pick up a Safety in the draft.

[dirtybird66]

I mean it just came down to experience,with WEBBIE back there now,he won't be so injury prone and it'l be like when DION SANDERS was switched to nickle and safety at the end of his carrer,just no room

[throwback2000]

  47 minutes ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

Did you miss the whole "WILL HILL WILL BE SUSPENDED FOR 10 GAMES NEXT SEASON" part? That means he can't play until week 11 and at best he'd be playing 6 games the whole season.

I think you need to watch some more tape of Weddle before you decide if he's a big hitter or not, but even without that Weddle caused as many forced fumbles in 2014 as Will Hill has his entire career. Despite being rated the best safety on the team, he was still rated 17th overall. How many teams are there in the NFL? So if your best guy is 17th and then benched because he's letting up too many plays...I think that tells you where your defense is. Webb is a better tackler than people give him credit for. If he's the one that has to tackle the RB all the time, then something's wrong up front and that ain't his fault.

You know what I find ironic. That's exactly how we got will hill in the first place. He played well for the Giants but kept failing drug tests. They cut him and we pick him up and wait for his suspention. Now we cut him and swallow 1.75 mil in dead cap. Thank you for nothing will.

Ditto.

[Xmadraven]

I was confused as to why we were cutting will hill, Now I know my bad ozzie.

[metalraven]

I think Webb will turn out to be a good S. He is actually a fantastic open field tackler, despite what some people say. Once he gets comfortable back there, he'll be good. Plus, now he has Weddle to help with communication. Chances of Webb's success are even higher now.

[Tenacious Faulker]

Damn shame. He was the best safety in our defense and would've been great next to Weddle. If it was PFD's then he's number two. If it was weed, the NFL really needs to take it off the banned substance list.