Grim's Ravens Mock: 2.0

[JoeyFlex5]

11 hours ago, Winchester said:

I agree. I do not get some of the statements regarding his athleticism and flexibility. The way he can bend and simultaneously use his hands with explosion and power from awkward positions is special stuff!! Going by his age,frame,length and muscle development so far Bosa will eventually play at about 285lbs with no loss in speed. In fact he most likely get a little more explosive as his muscles mature  by time he is 23.  As long as he is committed to the weight room and exercise\drills. And yes he could play olb at 285lbs.  His vertical and long jump will get better as well. 4.75 speed is fast for the rush olb position at 285lbs!! which will be his playweight. 285lbs or so and 4.75 speed with burst and twitch is awesome. Some feel the jj watt comparison is lazy cuz player comparisons are often lazy and often based on how a dude looks than plays. However Bosa's skillset is similar to JJ Watts.

I don't think his skill set is similar to jj watts. He can play DE or OLB in a 34 and aside from that I don't see it personally. As a pass rusher, I have always thought of Michael Strahan when I watch his game, he has a good first step and such a great motor and some of the most violent hands I've ever seen, engages with authority and disengages like a bully just ripping people behind him or tossing them to the side, and he can take the shortest possible route to the qb often by using his physicality to win the inside. So many things about his game remind me of Strahan, he isn't quite as explosive though and thats for sure.

[allblackraven]

On 17/03/2016 at 5:24 PM, GrimCoconut said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/comments/3zwaf0/kendall_fuller_cb_va_tech_vs_purdue_game_analysis/

I don't feel like arguing with people so I'll let someone else do it for me. Fuller has ball skills, fellas. Not sure why people dislike Fuller. It's not like anyone here is saying he's the best CB by far in this Draft. I really like him, but he's in the mix for me with guys like Alexander and others. I don't like the concept that seems to be prevalent around here that you need to disparage one prospect if you like another.

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[RavensDieHard21]

5 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

For the record, I believe Alexander is gone before we pick. If Alexander and Fuller are both on the board, however, I am going Alexander and changing the pick. Just putting that out there. 

I keep my hopes up that teams credit Clemson's ferocious pass rush for Alexander's success in college or that he is too young to draft that early or something so that we can laugh while we run to the podium with his name on the card.

[RavensDieHard21]

5 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I don't think his skill set is similar to jj watts. He can play DE or OLB in a 34 and aside from that I don't see it personally. As a pass rusher, I have always thought of Michael Strahan when I watch his game, he has a good first step and such a great motor and some of the most violent hands I've ever seen, engages with authority and disengages like a bully just ripping people behind him or tossing them to the side, and he can take the shortest possible route to the qb often by using his physicality to win the inside. So many things about his game remind me of Strahan, he isn't quite as explosive though and thats for sure.

If you were an agent pitching your client's abilities after showing them his tape, then I would certainly do whatever possible to land Bosa lol Just so much talent to be harnessed if he were to come to Baltimore.

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

If you were an agent pitching your client's abilities after showing them his tape, then I would certainly do whatever possible to land Bosa lol Just so much talent to be harnessed if he were to come to Baltimore.

I still want bosa badly. I've never slipped off his wagon for even a second. Tunsil is my top guy and Bosa is 2a with ramsey at 2b. I think he's a perfect fit to be the next face of the defense. And he fills in for departed canty, and can also edge rush from olb and would be a better edge rusher from our dime packages than anyone on the team. He can move Well and would be a disruption from so many spots and he fills up so many holes at once. 

 

I still don't get the rationale for people who don't want bosa on this team, I have yet to see a halfway sensible argument.

[trevorsteadman]

2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I still want bosa badly. I've never slipped off his wagon for even a second. Tunsil is my top guy and Bosa is 2a with ramsey at 2b. I think he's a perfect fit to be the next face of the defense. And he fills in for departed canty, and can also edge rush from olb and would be a better edge rusher from our dime packages than anyone on the team. He can move Well and would be a disruption from so many spots and he fills up so many holes at once. 

 

I still don't get the rationale for people who don't want bosa on this team, I have yet to see a halfway sensible argument.

I am a huge Bosa fan and I don't think it is just with Bosa, but with players that are at the top of their position in general. They try to find reasons for the #2 or #3 guy to be better. It reminds me of the Goff-Wentz draft scenarios. Goff is by far #1 but they are bashing him because Wentz is bigger and his hand size is bigger. But we could all agree Goff is the most NFL ready quarterback and is most likely to have a successful career compared to his competition in this draft. Let's just hope other teams bite on this talk and we end up with Bosa. Him slipping to Baltimore is a dream come true.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, trevorsteadman said:

I am a huge Bosa fan and I don't think it is just with Bosa, but with players that are at the top of their position in general. They try to find reasons for the #2 or #3 guy to be better. It reminds me of the Goff-Wentz draft scenarios. Goff is by far #1 but they are bashing him because Wentz is bigger and his hand size is bigger. But we could all agree Goff is the most NFL ready quarterback and is most likely to have a successful career compared to his competition in this draft. Let's just hope other teams bite on this talk and we end up with Bosa. Him slipping to Baltimore is a dream come true.

Good comparison. I still see goff as by far the better product and I think it's silly to say otherwise, it's like a manning vs leaf thing, bigger stronger arm vs the better qb? I'll take the better qb.

[Winchester]

14 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I don't think his skill set is similar to jj watts. He can play DE or OLB in a 34 and aside from that I don't see it personally. As a pass rusher, I have always thought of Michael Strahan when I watch his game, he has a good first step and such a great motor and some of the most violent hands I've ever seen, engages with authority and disengages like a bully just ripping people behind him or tossing them to the side, and he can take the shortest possible route to the qb often by using his physicality to win the inside. So many things about his game remind me of Strahan, he isn't quite as explosive though and thats for sure.

For now but consider he is growing and filling out muscle on his frame. He will actually get more explosive as his muscles grow or mature more or less. To most people getting more explosive with more bulk seems to be contradicting but it is actually likely in some scenarios. Especially maturing muscles obviously being one of these unique situation's. Will settle in at about 285lbs and a little more explosive.

[JoeyFlex5]

49 minutes ago, Winchester said:

For now but consider he is growing and filling out muscle on his frame. He will actually get more explosive as his muscles grow or mature more or less. To most people getting more explosive with more bulk seems to be contradicting but it is actually likely in some scenarios. Especially maturing muscles obviously being one of these unique situation's. Will settle in at about 285lbs and a little more explosive.

Oh yeah I'd agree with that. Bosa as refined as he is still doesn't have a fully matured body no matter how much he looks like a grown man lol. 

 

By the time he maxed out he could look every bit like jj watt and not lose a step, now will he be that dominant? Doubt it, but he'll be a stud and has plenty of room to grow still