Welcome To Baltimore Mike Wallace

[jar2260]

I agree with the others, now we need to upgrade our offensive line to protect Joe and allow him the time to throw down field!

Not going to know what it,s like having receivers that can get open!!

[Winchester]

20 minutes ago, AsianRice said:

lots of complete WR don't have a ring yet....wonder why....

Many players do not have rings!!

 

20 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Ok who? tell us who this mystery receiver is.

AJ Green trade for him

Edited March 16, 2016 by Winchester

[rmw10]

23 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Many players do not have rings!!

 

AJ Green trade for him

As Cincinnati proceeds to hang up the phone?

Edited March 16, 2016 by rmw10

[hawkprey]

Good for Mike Wallace. He's a good receiver who's been looked down on because of inferior QB play and he knows it. 

[ALPHA]

8 minutes ago, Winchester said:

AJ Green trade for him

Yes thats a great idea, lets just ask a division rival for their best player.

We might as well trade for Antonio Brown too.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

17 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

As Cincinnati proceed to hang up the phone?

 

I'm sorry mods. This was too good not to be posted.

[ravensdan]

4 hours ago, sflegend89 said:

Flacco has SSS. I would actually take our current WR group over Arizona's, just have to stay healthy.

Say what?  That's crazy talk. Fitz John brown, Floyd over senior, Wallace, Aiken?  No way. 

[redrum52]

Never thought I'd cheer on Mike...

[ravensdan]

1 hour ago, Winchester said:

Still need a #1 receiver that can win at every level. A complete receiver!!

That's not really that important. As much as you've been preaching how important the oline is I don't get this statement. It's more important to have a group of receivers that play to your offense and are complimentary. This group is not great. I don't get those comments. But who cares. Our super bowl group was similar. Better than Seattle or New England's group. The receivers are good enough. Need to replace KO. 

[DomMcRaven]

1 hour ago, The Raven said:

Why the hell is everyone so worried about oline? We were top three in sacks allowed and top 12 in hits allowed - even with Hurst playing so much. Pass protection was not a significant issue. I realize that public opinion has soured on Monroe, but we really aren't that bad. It'd be nice to have a quality backup at LT, but quality backups at LT are practically a myth. It wouldn't serve us well to use our top six pick on a LT that might not be a day one starter, when we do have a LT locked up.

There are more needs than LT - secondary, pass rush, and yes, receiver - that our top pick should be used for, especially with the OL coach we have. I won't be disappointed if we get Tunsil - I love the guy - but then you have a question: How do you justify benching a Top 6 LT, and how do you justify benching a guy with a franchise LT salary? If it's up to me, we're getting a LT in the 3rd of 4th, as well as some interior guys in the mid to late rounds.

Now that's surprising. Hmm. Well if that's the case. we definitely need to go pass rusher or secondary. However, if he's available at #6. Myles Jack please?

[Ravensuperfan1]

I'm not going to lie this feels weird

[BmoreBird22]

So, I'm not sure what happened in Minnesota, but when I watched some highlights from Miami, he was a true playmaker. Everyone has been hyping him up as a one trick pony, but I think that's a bit unfair. I will say, he won't be utilizing a lot of routes, but in Miami, he showed a really great aptitude for the fly route, post, slant, bubble screen, and comeback. Other than slants, he won't really be going across the middle, which I suppose is why people think he's a one trick pony.

However, I was really impressed to see how much fight and desire he had to score on slants and comebacks. Honestly, probably more than half of his touchdowns were because he caught a short pass and took it to the house after breaking a tackle. I think people are really underselling his playmaking ability at all levels of the offense.

Having Perriman and Wallace is really gonna do wonders when they both force coverages off and are able to work underneath. I'm really excited to see the offense this year and I really like the signing. 

Welcome to Baltimore, Mike Wallace. You'll love it here.

[redrum52]

1 hour ago, The Raven said:

Why the hell is everyone so worried about oline? We were top three in sacks allowed and top 12 in hits allowed - even with Hurst playing so much. Pass protection was not a significant issue. I realize that public opinion has soured on Monroe, but we really aren't that bad. It'd be nice to have a quality backup at LT, but quality backups at LT are practically a myth. It wouldn't serve us well to use our top six pick on a LT that might not be a day one starter, when we do have a LT locked up.

There are more needs than LT - secondary, pass rush, and yes, receiver - that our top pick should be used for, especially with the OL coach we have. I won't be disappointed if we get Tunsil - I love the guy - but then you have a question: How do you justify benching a Top 6 LT, and how do you justify benching a guy with a franchise LT salary? If it's up to me, we're getting a LT in the 3rd of 4th, as well as some interior guys in the mid to late rounds.

Completely agree.  O line is the last thing we should be worried about.  KO and Yanda should be proof of the Wizards magic.  2nd and 3rd round monsters.  If there's anything I trust a ozzie drafting late, it's o line.  If no pass rusher, wr or dB is worth the pick, I'd bet money we trade down.  Unless the teams in front of us make HUGE mistakes, I see us trading down anyway.

[SteelerEmpire]

Haven't kept up with him much since he left the Steelers, but never saw a DB he couldn't get behind when he was with the team. Mostly, he would "out-run" Ben's deep passes and would have to slow down or come back to the ball on the vast majority of them... thus getting tackled or the defender catches up and bats the ball down. If Ben had a slightly more powerful arm, his stats would have been off the charts. However, he (Wallace) was not very effective mid-field, but if he caugh an underneath pass in full stride he could "easily" take it to the house. Good pick up. 

Edited March 16, 2016 by SteelerEmpire

[757RavensFan]

6 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

This is probably the best offense Joe's ever had to work with. All we need now is a LT and Joe should feel elated.

I wish we still had Kubiak as an OC with these new pieces on offense. 

[757RavensFan]

4 hours ago, Winchester said:

You see I'm a spoiled brat. I like the best of everything!! Mike Wallace is noting to write home Of course I'll say something positive when the ravens sign a player with his best play yet to Come!!

Playing devil's advocate, do you agree that Wallace is a much better receiver than your man crush, Campanaro? 

[1/28/01]

5 hours ago, beanfigger said:

Couldn't resist, could you? Under throws "every" deep ball with "average" time, though? Don't even think Flacco was mentioned to draw that comment.

Yes, correct.  Stats prove it.  Wasnt trying to turn this into a Flacco bash, but yes he underthrows quite a bit.  Every?  Perhaps not.  Enough for me and others to realize his deep ball isnt what locals think it is.  I just hope he finds rythm with Wallace and Perriman quickly. 

I've mentioned his rythm and hoped relationship with Wallace, so its related.  Easy does it.  Not everyone loves Flacco no matter what. 

[1/28/01]

4 hours ago, codizzle said:

Still talking about flacco here? 

The quarterback that controls most of the success of a receiver?  Yes.  Just hoping for a great connection between Wallace and Flacco.  Is that a bad thing? 

[redrum52]

6 minutes ago, 1/28/01 said:

The quarterback that controls most of the success of a receiver?  Yes.  Just hoping for a great connection between Wallace and Flacco.  Is that a bad thing? 

You better lay out the digital rose petals whenever speaking of King Joseph around these parts...  

 

If he can get his timing right with Perriman and Wallace though....  we could have something real special this season.  Interested in how this Wallace experiment goes.

[Cville-Raven]

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

So, I'm not sure what happened in Minnesota, but when I watched some highlights from Miami, he was a true playmaker. Everyone has been hyping him up as a one trick pony, but I think that's a bit unfair. I will say, he won't be utilizing a lot of routes, but in Miami, he showed a really great aptitude for the fly route, post, slant, bubble screen, and comeback. Other than slants, he won't really be going across the middle, which I suppose is why people think he's a one trick pony.

However, I was really impressed to see how much fight and desire he had to score on slants and comebacks. Honestly, probably more than half of his touchdowns were because he caught a short pass and took it to the house after breaking a tackle. I think people are really underselling his playmaking ability at all levels of the offense.

Having Perriman and Wallace is really gonna do wonders when they both force coverages off and are able to work underneath. I'm really excited to see the offense this year and I really like the signing. 

Welcome to Baltimore, Mike Wallace. You'll love it here.

Yeah watching some of his highlights with Pitt I was pretty shocked at his YAC ability.  

[flynismo]

2 hours ago, ravensdan said:

The receivers are good enough. Need to replace KO. 

Are they? I'm not so sure about that. A 37 year old SSS coming off a major injury, a has-been deep threat in Wallace, Aiken and Perriman who are still unproven...I'll say that there is potential for a solid group, but far from a lock. But really, same old story...give Flacco decent protection, and it really doesn't matter who he's throwing to

[Winchester]

3 hours ago, ravensdan said:

That's not really that important. As much as you've been preaching how important the oline is I don't get this statement. It's more important to have a group of receivers that play to your offense and are complimentary. This group is not great. I don't get those comments. But who cares. Our super bowl group was similar. Better than Seattle or New England's group. The receivers are good enough. Need to replace KO. 

I was joking about an green obviously. I would not even want an green!! Do not want the Bengals stuff! I want our own great receiver. Not the Bengals castaways. Same goes for Mike Wallace!! I do not want the Steelers former declining trash!! I would like to get Percy Harvin on a prove it deal. He can win at different dimensions. He is explosive and shifty in his breaks. Wallace is very straight linish. Wallace body catches while Percy Harvin extends and uses his hands and can make fluid acrobatic catches. Harvin can separate over the middle with fast sudden routes then take it to the yard.There is injury risk yes but if he avoided injury he could put up top5 numbers catching from Joe in trestmans offense. And he is a dynamic returner. By far the most electic playmaker the ravens ever fronted. And ravens could get him on a $1mil prove it deal!!

[Winchester]

25 minutes ago, flynismo said:

Are they? I'm not so sure about that. A 37 year old SSS coming off a major injury, a has-been deep threat in Wallace, Aiken and Perriman who are still unproven...I'll say that there is potential for a solid group, but far from a lock. But really, same old story...give Flacco decent protection, and it really doesn't matter who he's throwing to

 

Hey fly I knew there was a reason your onebif the dudes whose posts I follow!! lol I agree give Joe Cool protection and allow him to throw upright and he is as good and accurate as any QB in the game. So why all the disagrees with me when I been wanting an elite OLine?? To fuel a prolific and balanced offense. I agree completely bwith your assessment of the receivers. I like Thomas Robinson and Coleman at receiver. However Coleman is out of reach except for at 6.

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, flynismo said:

Are they? I'm not so sure about that. A 37 year old SSS coming off a major injury, a has-been deep threat in Wallace, Aiken and Perriman who are still unproven...I'll say that there is potential for a solid group, but far from a lock. But really, same old story...give Flacco decent protection, and it really doesn't matter who he's throwing to

Yes, at the moment they are.  SSr was have a good year until he got hurt.  Aiken can produce, he has proven that and will be a good 2 or 3.  BP still has to prove himself but no reason he cant come in and make plays.  Wallace will make plays.  All we can do is sign players that give us a chance to be a better team, who ever thinks we didn't do that by adding Wallace and BP, is clearly mistaken. 

And of course your right, Hopefully we can find some gems in 3rd or 4th rounds to give Joe some protection.   But this is the most excited ive been to watch our offense in quite some time. 

[Winchester]

6 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Yes, at the moment they are.  SSr was have a good year until he got hurt.  Aiken can produce, he has proven that and will be a good 2 or 3.  BP still has to prove himself but no reason he cant come in and make plays.  Wallace will make plays.  All we can do is sign players that give us a chance to be a better team, who ever thinks we didn't do that by adding Wallace and BP, is clearly mistaken. 

And of course your right, Hopefully we can find some gems in 3rd or 4th rounds to give Joe some protection.   But this is the most excited ive been to watch our offense in quite some time. 

 

In my opinion Aiken will not repeat. And SS will not be the same at 37 coming off an Achilles injury. Wallace was thrown away like unwanted trash by the Vikings. Perriman is unproven as well. That group of weapons is no reason to get excited. Even if he can run sub 4.4 these days there is no go to guy

[usmccharles]

2 minutes ago, Winchester said:

 

In my opinion Aiken will not repeat. And SS will not be the same at 37 coming off an Achilles injury. Wallace was thrown away like unwanted trash by the Vikings. Perriman is unproven as well. That group of weapons is no reason to get excited. Even if he can run sub 4.4 these days there is no go to guy

No go to guy? why don't we let them play first? or are your scouting abilities that good that you are thewizard 2.0

Aiken wont repeat because he wont see 15 targets a game, but he can move the chains

I you told me got Miami Wallace, 1800 yards and 15TDs in two years, im pretty happy with that, especially considering we are a better team than Miami with a better QB. 

SSr is well removed from his injury by the time the season starts.  We may not get the same SSr, but his veteran presence does help a guy like BP

BP has a lot to learn, no reason to think he cant contribute though

Plenty of reason to get excited....for me.  Sorry we missed out on Brian Quick and most likely wont sign Harvin, but if you don't think we improved our offense from last year your mistaken. 

People complain that we sit back and let FA pass us by, we go out and make some good moves, people complain. love it

[arnie_uk]

9 hours ago, gtalk12 said:

Arizona definitely has a monster WR core....I guess we see things differently, Fitz is still a monster, still quick and has HANDS. Floyd is an animal and Brown burns you and has HANDS....I don't know what tape you've seen but I'd def take that core

Yea, read my post. That's clearly what I said. Best in the league

[Winchester]

38 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

No go to guy? why don't we let them play first? or are your scouting abilities that good that you are thewizard 2.0

Aiken wont repeat because he wont see 15 targets a game, but he can move the chains

I you told me got Miami Wallace, 1800 yards and 15TDs in two years, im pretty happy with that, especially considering we are a better team than Miami with a better QB. 

SSr is well removed from his injury by the time the season starts.  We may not get the same SSr, but his veteran presence does help a guy like BP

BP has a lot to learn, no reason to think he cant contribute though

Plenty of reason to get excited....for me.  Sorry we missed out on Brian Quick and most likely wont sign Harvin, but if you don't think we improved our offense from last year your mistaken. 

People complain that we sit back and let FA pass us by, we go out and make some good moves, people complain. love it

 

Cuz people want the ravens to make good moves in free agency.Not TEs going on 36!!  What is it with Ozzie and players over their prime??!! Seriously can't he identity a receiver or any player that can have his breakout with the ravens. How can Ozzie not consider Quick or Harvin?? As much as I like Ben Watson's work ethic and training habits I can not agree with cap space used on more old declining players. What is the fascination with old players with eroding skills??!! As much as I want to like these moves there is just flat out better places to spend the money!! I can only Imagine what this draft is going to look like!! Superbowls are won by getting players outperforming his contract. In the draft and free agency.  It is essential to find players yet to breakout but will do so with the support of the ravens system like better QB, better motivation, work ethic,coaching, better schemes is what is available to players with elite skills that did not break out on bad teams. But Ozzie's idea of a bargain is a player that is cheaper because his skills are eroding!! Thus not wanted by his current team. Maybe it is an upgrade but enough of an upgrade to make noise in the playoffs?? Look at the rosters teams like the raiders and jags are building. That is the competition!! This is what Ozzie and his guys are doing??

[usmccharles]

3 minutes ago, Winchester said:

 

Cuz people want the ravens to make good moves in free agency.Not TEs going on 36!!  What is it with Ozzie and players over their prime??!! Seriously can't he identity a receiver or any player that can have his breakout with the ravens. How can Ozzie not consider Quick or Harvin?? As much as I like Ben Watson's work ethic and training habits I can not agree with cap space used on more old declining players. What is the fascination with old players with eroding skills??!! As much as I want to like these moves there is just flat out better places to spend the money!! I can only Imagine what this draft is going to look like!! Superbowls are won by getting players outperforming his contract. In the draft and free agency.  It is essential to find players yet to breakout but will do so with the support of the ravens system like better QB, better motivation, work ethic,coaching, better schemes is what is available to players with elite skills that did not break out on bad teams. But Ozzie's idea of a bargain is a player that is cheaper because his skills are eroding!! Thus not wanted by his current team. Maybe it is an upgrade but enough of an upgrade to make noise in the playoffs?? Look at the rosters teams like the raiders and jags are building. That is the competition!! This is what Ozzie and his guys are doing??

And in most Ravens fans and obviously the FO, views these as good moves.  Im not a huge fan of Watson signing but I understand it, we have only Max ready to play week one, no point going out and getting another young TE when Gilmore and Boyle will be back.  Watson can come in and produce right away. 

So you must of been very upset when we signed Boldin and SSr, because their prime was/is behind them....righttttt

I would love to hear what you would have done instead, yes we know, you would of gave KO 13mill.  But Harvin/Quick over Wallace is just laughable, now if we brought Quick/Harvin in and Wallace I wouldn't complain.  Harvin should only be a KR/PR- there is potential there. 

Raiders and Jags have been picking top ten for years, I would hope they are building something nice, which they are, ive been on record saying that they bother are doing great things, they both also had over 70million in cap space because they haven't had any quality players to pay.  Watch what happens when they need to pay Carr, Cooper, Mack....

If only we could have a roster like Camp, Quick, Harvin...so much explosion... and about 400 missed games. 

Punctuation.....for the love of god, someday.

 

[scrock]

13 hours ago, 757RavensFan said:

After reading some comments from MIN fans on ProFootballTalk, they speak very highly of him.  They said he was great in the locker

room w/ his teammates and coaches.  Most stated, it  wasn't a good fit for the offense they ran and Bridgewater not having a big arm to take

advantage of Wallace's speed.  They said even w/ a down season, they never heard anything negative coming from Wallace. 

 

That's good, maybe he matured and learned from how things went down in Miami