Welcome to Baltimore Eric Weddle!

[jazz1988]

9 minutes ago, Tru11 said:

was not that hard to look good in the early part of the season TBH.

 

 

Not sure if that's true  because our pass rush was bad earlier in the season and Hill seem like the only player that was making plays in the secondary.

[atomicfront]

49 minutes ago, The Raven said:

He said cap hit, not cap savings.... Try reading next time. Maybe it wasn't worded clearly enough for you but he never said we'd save 9.5 or 4.5 by cutting either.

 

Yes, depth good. $9M on the bench, however, is not good. Hell, $4M on the bench isn't good.

His cap hit is only relevant to savings if he is cut.  That was just structured that way to save money to the team in the past years.   No one cares what his total cap hit is.  They just want to know the real cap hit for keeping him on the team...  

Edited March 15, 2016 by atomicfront

[The Raven]

6 minutes ago, atomicfront said:

His cap hit is only relevant to savings if he is cut.  That was just structured that way to save money to the team in the past years.   No one cares what his total cap hit is.  They just want to know the real cap hit for keeping him on the team...  

Then I recommend actually following Zrebiec's Twitter, because he explained what that cap savings would be. Not his fault some website quoted half of what he said.

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, atomicfront said:

His cap hit is only relevant to savings if he is cut.  That was just structured that way to save money to the team in the past years.   No one cares what his total cap hit is.  They just want to know the real cap hit for keeping him on the team...  

Well, they also care about how much cash they are actually paying him, since that's coming straight out of the owners profits.

He's making nearly $3M this year, which isn't unreasonable, but if he's a bench player (which I doubt he is), the FO might find that unreasonable for a third safety, particularly with so many safeties on the roster currently.

[B-more Ravor]

 

Full details of Weddle's deal:

[B-more Ravor]

3 hours ago, The Raven said:

Then I recommend actually following Zrebiec's Twitter, because he explained what that cap savings would be. Not his fault some website quoted half of what he said.

 

This. Zrebiec's tweets and the articles in The Sun have been correct.  It was Rotoworld that took poor license to what he actually reported.

[Davesta]

3 minutes ago, B-more Ravor said:

 

Full details of Weddle's deal:

So a 2 year deal? 

[rmw10]

5 minutes ago, B-more Ravor said:

 

Full details of Weddle's deal:

I like it. Easy enough to get out after 2 years but not overly expensive to keep him if he's still playing at a high level. 

[B-more Ravor]

2 minutes ago, Davesta said:

So a 2 year deal? 

Pretty much.  Not too painful to get out from under after the 2 years.

[scrock]

21 hours ago, Drew P said:

They will insert Jalen Ramsey into that spot

 

Might be right, man that's my draft dream right there, Ramsey somehow falling to us...

[Crabcakes&Football]

1 hour ago, B-more Ravor said:

 

Full details of Weddle's deal:

That's very reasonable. 

[Inqui]

I've been cautiously optimistic about this signing, but there's a lot to like about the price we're getting him at. It remains to be seen how much we're getting of the old Weddle we've all come to know and love, but one thing I'm genuinely excited about is having a chess master at the back end for the first time since Reed. We loved the Ray Lewis v Peyton pre-snap matches, but a fair bit's been made nationally about the Weddle v Peyton matches too.

At worst, if he's lost a few steps too many, he should at least be able to make sure everyone's getting their assignments right and shut down a small part of the field - which will be big for Hill too. But if he's still got a bit of range to him, it'll be huge to have someone who can stop the massive plays when our CBs get burnt deep and he should be good for a couple of turnover.

Bottom line: I wasn't as excited at the thought of bringing him in as some people were - and I'm not expecting a turnover machine that'll wipe out half the field and make our secondary one of the best in the league - but I wanted him here for the right price. And I think we got him for the right price.

[Tru11]

16 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

 

Not sure if that's true  because our pass rush was bad earlier in the season and Hill seem like the only player that was making plays in the secondary.

what plays was he making?

 

[usmccharles]

9 hours ago, Inqui said:

I've been cautiously optimistic about this signing, but there's a lot to like about the price we're getting him at. It remains to be seen how much we're getting of the old Weddle we've all come to know and love, but one thing I'm genuinely excited about is having a chess master at the back end for the first time since Reed. We loved the Ray Lewis v Peyton pre-snap matches, but a fair bit's been made nationally about the Weddle v Peyton matches too.

At worst, if he's lost a few steps too many, he should at least be able to make sure everyone's getting their assignments right and shut down a small part of the field - which will be big for Hill too. But if he's still got a bit of range to him, it'll be huge to have someone who can stop the massive plays when our CBs get burnt deep and he should be good for a couple of turnover.

Bottom line: I wasn't as excited at the thought of bringing him in as some people were - and I'm not expecting a turnover machine that'll wipe out half the field and make our secondary one of the best in the league - but I wanted him here for the right price. And I think we got him for the right price.

Also, he is a great tackler, hopefully nomore shoulder bumps back there

[Purple_City39]

6 hours ago, Tru11 said:

what plays was he making?

 

Well, he did make what would have been the game saving INT in Oakland that Jernigan nullified with a personal foul.  Outside of that, he wasn't that much of a playmaker in 2015.  Solid, but not a big playmaker.  I can also remember the open field tackle where he decleated the ball carrier.  I don't remember the game though

[ludy51]

13 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

Well, he did make what would have been the game saving INT in Oakland that Jernigan nullified with a personal foul.  Outside of that, he wasn't that much of a playmaker in 2015.  Solid, but not a big playmaker.  I can also remember the open field tackle where he decleated the ball carrier.  I don't remember the game though

He had that pile driver tackle against tennesee maybe?

[Tru11]

Well this not much tbh lol

[jazz1988]

7 hours ago, Tru11 said:

what plays was he making?

 

I was more focus on the game against The Raiders where he was making plays in that game but for the most part Hill was solid in during the early part of the season. He even got positive grades from pro football focus and still was The Ravens best coverage safety on the team.

[Purple_City39]

On 3/14/2016 at 1:52 PM, rafahash said:

 

Do you actually think we're cutting Will Hill? Seriously?

 

Also, Eric Weddle is a game changer, not th "14th safety to the roster".

 

On 3/14/2016 at 1:58 PM, Underdogsontop! said:

No way we cut Will the Thrill Hill buddy!

 

On 3/14/2016 at 1:58 PM, fistfullwales said:

Haha, cut Hill. That's rich.

 

On 3/14/2016 at 2:05 PM, elemento said:

Lol Will Hill getting cut. Ravens have one of the best duos @ safety position right now. It was a great signing. I couldn't care less about Elam or Lewis. They both suck

As much as I hate it, it's a business and this was one of the more likely cuts, as I mentioned.

Dag, 10 down votes on my original post and I was unfortunately right

[January J]

On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 2:57 PM, DrPuff said:

I just dont see how you guys think Webb or Lewis will be cut. When Webb moved to safety at the end of the year it was Hill that came off the field. He would also make the most financial sense to be the one cut. So Hill is in no way safe.

You called It buddy.

On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 3:17 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

I would agree just based on activity but the way the draft is shaping up it just looks like it would be tough to find a pass rusher. Bosa is likely gone, and That leaves us with shaq Lawson or buckner if we even view him as a pass rusher

Or trade back for spence. Personally i Think we will target myles Jack with the vacancy left by daryl Smith but thats Just me.  Otherwise BPA.

[allblackraven]

14 minutes ago, January J said:

You called It buddy.

Or trade back for spence. Personally i Think we will target myles Jack with the vacancy left by daryl Smith but thats Just me.  Otherwise BPA.

In light of today's Will Hill development, I am now finally resigned to the fact that Ravens might not be prepared to risk with Spence. Nothing would make me happier than to see him in Baltimore but I don't think it's likely.

[rmw10]

Just now, allblackraven said:

In light of today's Will Hill development, I am now finally resigned to the fact that Ravens might not be prepared to risk with Spence. Nothing would make me happier than to see him in Baltimore but I don't think it's likely.

Likely to be the case.  Aaron Wilson said Hill had been clean for while but reverted back to old habits late in the season.  A guy can put on a positive front as much as he wants but you never know when they're going back to trouble.

[allblackraven]

7 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Likely to be the case.  Aaron Wilson said Hill had been clean for while but reverted back to old habits late in the season.  A guy can put on a positive front as much as he wants but you never know when they're going back to trouble.

Then again, there are Justin Houstons of this world... so we'll see. All I want to do right now is beat the crap out of Spence, Hill, Gordon, Bryant.... so much talent, so little brain.

[Ravenseconbeast]

52 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Likely to be the case.  Aaron Wilson said Hill had been clean for while but reverted back to old habits late in the season.  A guy can put on a positive front as much as he wants but you never know when they're going back to trouble.

Its a real shame too.  Because him and Will Hill have some serious physical talent.   Webb is still a bit of a project in my eyes comming into FT safety position this season.   I think eventually we do have part ways with Webb if he does not show up big this year.   

[K-Dog]

10 game suspension was the x-factor no one was expecting.

[jazz1988]

3 hours ago, allblackraven said:

In light of today's Will Hill development, I am now finally resigned to the fact that Ravens might not be prepared to risk with Spence. Nothing would make me happier than to see him in Baltimore but I don't think it's likely.

I feel somewhat the same but The Ravens gave Jimmy Smith a shot as well and  he had problem with substance abuse so i guess it all depends on how convincing Spence was in his interview with The Ravens.

Edited March 17, 2016 by jazz1988

[January J]

4 hours ago, allblackraven said:

In  ligrigncesday's don't Hill development,  I a m now final ly resigned to the fact that Ravens might not be prepared to risk with Spence. Nothing would make me happier than to see him in Baltimore but I don't think it's likely.

Thats A good point. But you cant Let one bad apple Keep you from ever giving anybody a chance again. I Dont think ozzie Will Just all of a sudden stop giving second Chances just bc of will hill, but Your right it could and probably will cause them to air on the side of caution.

 

Well atleast theres Been No shortage of excitment And action these last few weeks..usually this time of year is pretty damn Quiet in ravens nation.

[Tru11]

16 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

I was more focus on the game against The Raiders where he was making plays in that game but for the most part Hill was solid in during the early part of the season. He even got positive grades from pro football focus and still was The Ravens best coverage safety on the team.

same PFF rated him as the 70th best safety in the 2nd part of the season and even got subbed out at times.
(there are 32 teams which means there are 64 starting safeties including him)

interestingly our defense was a top rated unit in that same time span.

 

[arnie_uk]

20 hours ago, Tru11 said:

Well this not much tbh lol

Stop with the revolutionary history. He was the best player on the defense last year, even with getting pulled. 

He's done what he's done, and he's idiot, but let's give credit where it's due, he was about one of 3 players that played well on defense last year.

[BmoreBird22]

21 hours ago, Purple_City39 said:

Well, he did make what would have been the game saving INT in Oakland that Jernigan nullified with a personal foul.  Outside of that, he wasn't that much of a playmaker in 2015.  Solid, but not a big playmaker.  I can also remember the open field tackle where he decleated the ball carrier.  I don't remember the game though

I thought Hill negated that himself with illegal contact...