Welcome to Baltimore Eric Weddle!

[BmoreBird22]

I was way too hyped up at work for Weddle. He's going to be a dominant center fielder next year. He may not be the all around safety he once was, but he sure can cover and that's all I care about.

[PurpleCity5]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

I was way too hyped up at work for Weddle. He's going to be a dominant center fielder next year. He may not be the all around safety he once was, but he sure can cover and that's all I care about.

Same here, I really wanted a coverage guy here. We need to limit the big plays. I just hope we do something at CB. 

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, JoeyFlex5 said:

In the draft, what helps make this pick even more valuable? Vh3 to pair with Jimmy and make our secondary elite? A pass rusher to cut down on coverage time? That would be hard to find at 6th overall though..

It seems like pass rusher would be the obvious choice, given its pretty much the one position I haven't seen us even attempt to upgrade in FA. We know we are at least looking at LTs, though time will tell if we add one. We know we are looking at WR also.

So right now my guess would be corner or pass rusher, with pass rusher more likely. 

[rmcjacket23]

4 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

FWIW, cutting Webb could make sense. I mean his cap hit is mean and it seems certain he won't be beating out Weddle for the starting job. He also doesn't have the ability to play on the outside. It makes sense cutting him, Lewis I can imagine being on ST or getting cut, but I would say ST, his cap hit is rather small. 

FWIW, cutting Webb would pay for all of Weddle's year 1 cap hit if the contract details are correct...

[eek]

For those asking what the Chargers did to Weddle, here is a prime and most recent example. its basically how they treat their whole team. SD is not a class organization like in Baltimore

 

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/dec/28/weddle-chargers-fine-daughter/

[Geving]

Awesome!

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

It seems like pass rusher would be the obvious choice, given its pretty much the one position I haven't seen us even attempt to upgrade in FA. We know we are at least looking at LTs, though time will tell if we add one. We know we are looking at WR also.

So right now my guess would be corner or pass rusher, with pass rusher more likely. 

I would agree just based on activity but the way the draft is shaping up it just looks like it would be tough to find a pass rusher. Bosa is likely gone, and That leaves us with shaq Lawson or buckner if we even view him as a pass rusher

[sflegend89]

Such a big win for this organization, wonder how big of a role SSS played in bringing him here. Time to get back to REAL Ravens defense, we still have the draft too, exciting time to be a fan. I'd say Webb, Lewis, or Elam are gone. I don't see any way we cut Hill, he's clearly the best SS we have on the roster and pairs up nicely with Weddle. 

[allblackraven]

3 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

It seems like pass rusher would be the obvious choice, given its pretty much the one position I haven't seen us even attempt to upgrade in FA. We know we are at least looking at LTs, though time will tell if we add one. We know we are looking at WR also.

So right now my guess would be corner or pass rusher, with pass rusher more likely. 

Yep, there was nothing for us in FA as far as pass rush goes. Either too expensive or not much of an upgrade.

[chunkywill25]

Weddle and hill. Definitely an elite tandem 

[sflegend89]

Really good watch, he's got a freakish vertical, very underrated athleticism

 

 

[Somerset Ravens]

Great move by Ozzie. This move fills a hole and enables us to eliminate some dead weight.

[spitfire418]

58 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Other teams aren't developing safeties like you say they are.. The league is starved for safeties atm. 

 

Those 4 backups, are not potential starters, they are CAMP BODIES forced onto the active roster and playing as liabilities year in and year out. 

 

These 4 starting safeties you mention are the exact reason we blew the patriots and a huge part of why we went 5-11 last year. Where are you getting this "potential starter" idea from?

Lol... so you're saying those guys have no chance to become starters? 2 of them (Lewis & Webb) have started a bunch in their careers and could be our starting safeties (Don't think Lewis is a starter even though teams have started him). Webb was supposed to be our guy ever since we switched him and everyone including our gm/coaches liked his potential at safety. Then we have two younger guys in Elam and Brooks who have dealt with injuries, small playing time, and in my opinion bad coaching. Elam showed some nice things when he started his rookie year as a first round pick, but then idk what happened. Then Brooks has dealt with injuries and minimal playing time due to more experienced guys over him. Plus how can you say they are all camp bodies lol?! Webb, Lewis, Brooks, and Elam are just simply camp bodies. LOOOOL.

[Alexir]

Rotoworld changed Webb back to CB on depth chart. Just a FYI, doubt it's official (as we would of heard by now). Just saw it as interesting.

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, spitfire418 said:

Lol... so you're saying those guys have no chance to become starters? 2 of them (Lewis & Webb) have started a bunch in their careers and could be our starting safeties (Don't think Lewis is a starter even though teams have started him). Webb was supposed to be our guy ever since we switched him and everyone including our gm/coaches liked his potential at safety. Then we have two younger guys in Elam and Brooks who have dealt with injuries, small playing time, and in my opinion bad coaching. Elam showed some nice things when he started his rookie year as a first round pick, but then idk what happened. Then Brooks has dealt with injuries and minimal playing time due to more experienced guys over him. Plus how can you say they are all camp bodies lol?! Webb, Lewis, Brooks, and Elam are just simply camp bodies. LOOOOL.

Well, they have about as much chance of becoming starters as any other non-starter safety in the league who is attempting to become one. Obviously the most likely outcome is that they don't, because statistically, they won't.

Lewis has been a starter... just doesn't make him a good one. That's the difference... you seem to be content with a "starting safety" just because they've started somewhere else, as opposed to actually getting a good football player. Lewis started for us last season... do you want him starting for us again? What reason do you have to suspect that he will just be better?

At least somebody like an Elam/Brooks guy has more time to develop... Lewis has played six seasons already. 

The problem is that you simply can't just walk into the preseason saying "hey Brooks and Elam, you're going to be our starters, even though you've done nothing to earn that role". 

Elam's in the final year of his contract, which means if he can't outperform at least some of the safeties, there's no point in him being here besides ST. Brooks needs to focus on getting healthy and competing more than starting.

In theory, these guys could be starters. What nobody has any clue is whether they can be GOOD starters (kind of what we're going for here) or whether or not they will ever be able to beat out veterans ahead of them. That's what you compete for. 

Feels like you're suggesting we should just let these guys play without doing anything to warrant that playing time.

[berad]

Steelers are probably super salty... first Maxx Williams and now this? Both times they play the 'oh, we didn't want them anyways' game.

 

Jason La Canfora Verified account ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Steelers didn't make a formal offer on Weddle I'm told. Stop monitoring his market over weekend. Focused on signing a tackle

[Clmraven]

This is a good signing. Just because we have quantity at safety doesn't mean we have quality, Weddle is quality. And even if Webb looks good at safety or Brooks sees the light, that doesn't mean they'll be rotting on the bench, there is such a thing as having more than 2 safety's on the field at a time.

Edited March 14, 2016 by Clmraven

[sflegend89]

2 minutes ago, berad said:

Steelers are probably super salty... first Maxx Williams and now this? Both times they play the 'oh, we didn't want them anyways' game.

 

Jason La Canfora Verified account ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Steelers didn't make a formal offer on Weddle I'm told. Stop monitoring his market over weekend. Focused on signing a tackle

Steelers fans are the worst with that. Ravens fans will give them credit where it's due like the Ladarius Green signing

Ravens Sign Weddle: "Eh I didn't want him anyways, they overpaid him, he's overrated"

Steelers Sign Weddle to Exact Same Contract: "THIS TAKES OUR TEAM TO THE NEXT LEVEL! Worth every penny, he's a true difference maker for our secondary, I've always said how underrated he is"

[The Raven]

Welp, I'm eating crow. I can't say I'm unhappy about this. He's probably gonna be the glue that holds the secondary together, but I'm confused about what it means for the rest of the secondary. Is Webb moving back to CB? I could see him getting cut, now, if I'm being honest. What about Hill? I like the signing - although it's a little pricey for a 31 year old - but it raises a lot of questions. Regardless, it's an improvement.

Edited March 14, 2016 by The Raven

[JO_75]

PFT Comment Section never seems to amaze me. Love all the "Thought he wanted to play for a contender" comments like one bad year out of 8 for under Harbaugh is bad lol. 

6 minutes ago, berad said:

Steelers are probably super salty... first Maxx Williams and now this? Both times they play the 'oh, we didn't want them anyways' game.

 

Jason La Canfora Verified account ‏@JasonLaCanfora

Steelers didn't make a formal offer on Weddle I'm told. Stop monitoring his market over weekend. Focused on signing a tackle

It just means they will have nobody who can stop our offense in their horrible secondary and we will continue to shut down Big Ben/AB and the rest of the offense. 

[spitfire418]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

LOL, boy where to begin...

1. Don't get caught up on the 4 years or the $26M, because they are meaningless. He won't be here for four years nor will he get $26M. Think of it as a 2 year, $13M contract, since that's basically what it is.

2. Don't care about a 4th round comp pick. Its a fourth rounder, not a first rounder. The great drafting teams whiff completely on probably over half of their 4th round picks.

3. We have a bunch of safeties and besides Hill, none of them have shown or proven anything. Webb basically hasn't played safety in the NFL, Elam sucked two years ago and didn't play football all last season, Brooks is never healthy and wasn't any good when he was healthy, and a bunch of bad safeties like Lewis and Levine who should only be playing if several injuries occur. Most of the last four guys are basically ST players at best.

Quantity doesn't equal quality. We want quality, not quantity. 

4. Considering we will probably still cut some players, I would say its certainly possible we draft a safety this year. It likely means it won't come early in the draft, but then again, we haven't been very successful doing that so far anyway.

There isn't a single reasonable, educated Ravens fan who thinks we have five potential starting-caliber safeties on our team. There were times last season, with the same players, where I thought AT BEST we had one starting caliber safety on our team.

ONE.

So you're saying you know every Ravens fan opinion on this topic. LOL I doubt it. You also are saying I'm uneducated lol. Yep I'm very uneducated thanks... lol. Ok, let me just say I really don't like Kendrick Lewis. I don't think he is a starter, but I put him as a "potential starter" for us or another team because he has started basically his whole career. Webb hasn't played much safety at all in his career, but he's started a bunch in his NFL career, played some safety in college/NFL, and was supposed to be our starting safety before this signing. Brooks and Elam were both high draft picks and were drafted to be "potential starters" and have shown what they could potentially become one day. They have both dealt with injuries and I think our coaches, mostly Dean Pees, has held them back along with the rest of our guys like Will Hill. You all act like Will Hill was incredible last year. He wasn't, he was just decent and played the best out of him and Lewis (which isn't hard lol). Btw I'm a Gators fan so it's not like I hate Hill lol. I think he can be a great safety if put in the right position. I'm sure we will make some cuts before the 53-man roster. Hill and Weddle seem like the starters now. Lewis should be gone 100% which leaves 5 guys. Webb's contract is way to big for a safety at his age even though he could be a good safety for us like he was supposed to be before this move. Brooks should be here because he has two more years on his deal, he is at least a good special teams player for us, and hes got potential to be a starter for us if he stays healthy and gets a fair chance. Elam still has potential to be a starter. I know it hasn't looked good since his rookie year, but he was a first rounder for a reason. I don't know what happened his sophomore year, but coaching/scheme could've been part of it. Then he had the unfortunate injury last year which we can't blame him for. Maybe now you can all understand what I'm saying and stop bashing me by calling be uneducated, etc. If you still don't understand what I'm saying then whatever. You guys aren't GM's or anything lol so you can think I'm stupid or whatever. I just gave you all my thoughts on this move and wanted to put it out there to relieve some of my disappointment. I've posted just about everything I need to say relating to this topic so yeah there ya have it.

[sflegend89]

Just now, The Raven said:

Welp, I'm eating crow. I can't say I'm unhappy about this. He's probably gonna be the glue that holds the secondary together, but I'm confused about what it means for the rest of the secondary. Is Webb moving back to CB? What about Hill? I like the signing - although it's a little pricey for a 31 year old - but it raises a lot of questions. Regardless, it's an improvement.

 

31 isn't old for a safety. Charles Woodson was one of the best FS's in the NFL at 38-39, now everybody's not Charles Woodson but the point is Weddle has PLENTY of football left in him. He's not a runningback, the age isn't an issue for me at all.

[The Raven]

2 minutes ago, sflegend89 said:

 

31 isn't old for a safety. Charles Woodson was one of the best FS's in the NFL at 38-39, now everybody's not Charles Woodson but the point is Weddle has PLENTY of football left in him. He's not a runningback, the age isn't an issue for me at all.

 

We'll see. Not everyone is Ed Reed or Charles Woodson. 

[Raven'evermore]

 What is this now, 3 ticked off veteran players we've stolen because they we're unhappy their prior teams in the last four years now?  First Doom, then Sr. and now Weddle?  Welcome to the Ravens!

[sflegend89]

I'm glad we have someone with experience on the back end. To me 31 is a great blend of veteran smarts while still maintaining a lot of athleticism for a FS. When you listen to other players talk about Weddle on the Top 100 for 2014 & 2015 so many of them rave about what a smart player he is. "The Quarterback of the defense". That is exactly what we need in the secondary. We have a whole mess of young, fast, athletic safeties and they've all struggled outside of Hill. I love the fit with Weddle, we lost that coach on the field when Reed left.A lot of our struggles in the secondary were a matter of not playing SMART, not necesarily not being athletic or fast enough. Now we have a guy who knows NFL offenses like the back of his hand making the calls on the back end, this is the biggest win in FA we possibly could've hoped for.

[FGSB]

As long as he can still play, I don't have a problem.

What I don't get it where this puts Webb, Elam, and Brooks.

Not bashing Ozzie, I just don't understand how we fit all these safeties somewhere. Even if Webb splits nickle with someone, that leaves a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick the odd men out which makes for a very disappointing use of high draft picks. Maybe Elam gets traded and Brooks becomes the guy after Weddle starts to decline? Someone make sense of this for me please

[Moderator 3]

3 minutes ago, FGSB said:

As long as he can still play, I don't have a problem.

What I don't get it where this puts Webb, Elam, and Brooks.

Not bashing Ozzie, I just don't understand how we fit all these safeties somewhere. Even if Webb splits nickle with someone, that leaves a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick the odd men out which makes for a very disappointing use of high draft picks. Maybe Elam gets traded and Brooks becomes the guy after Weddle starts to decline? Someone make sense of this for me please

I think it'll all shake out in August.  Competition is a good thing.

[Wildabeast88]

My question now is with Weddle what does that mean for Webb is he going back to CB or is he getting cut I would assume he would be the 3rd corner covering the slot

[Winchester]

This was the most wicked curveball of free agency. He is 32 guys let's hope he has some of that blue gas left. Or in this case purple gas. Odds are he is not the Eric Weddle from couple seasons ago but maybe he has enough left to be a considerable upgrade.

[FastEddie]

Could see Wallace getting signed later on today...

Weddle signing came out of nowhere