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11 minutes ago, Underdogsontop! said:

Welcome Eric! So what you folks thinking?? Eric FS Will Hill SS Arrington and Webb battle for nickel? Someone probably getting cut?

I'd imagine Hill at FS and Weddle at SS, although these days, there isn't much difference between the two

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First legit cover guy back there since Ed left. He might be on the older side, but having a reliable player back there could and should be huge. 

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I stated this in another thread but he is no longer an elite FS. He is becoming more of an SS. He is a good tackler and inbox safety.

He is losing coverage skills and only has 2 INT's in the past two years.

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I guess this means Kendrick Lewis will soon be flipping burgers. 

I doubt Hill goes anywhere, and Brooks certainly isn't imo. Webb is in an awkward position. I think we'll certainly still draft a safety since Elam has been very underwhelming and Brooks hasn't quite put it together. 

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1 minute ago, Ravens4Real said:

I stated this in another thread but he is no longer an elite FS. He is becoming more of an SS. He is a good tackler and inbox safety.

He is losing coverage skills and only has 2 INT's in the past two years.

Because interceptions mean good coverage.

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I don't like this signing and I don't care if you disagree with me. A 4-year, $26M contract for a 31-year old safety when we already have a logjam at safety?! What is Ozzie thinking? Plus we had to restructure other players deals and probably lose our comp pick because of this signing... Wow. Yeah Weddle is a good player, but I just don't understand why we would pay all that money, restructure deals, and lose a comp pick for him when we have 5 potential starting safeties already on the roster. Now we have 4 guys who have started a lot in their careers and 2 young guys that have started a little bit and have shown their potential. I guess we have given up on both Brooks and Elam as well as Webb and Lewis? Ozzie just spoke so highly of Webb at the press conference not too long ago saying he will be a great safety and then he completely contradicts that statement with this signing. Also, I guess we won't draft a safety either this year even though it's a great safety class and we could easily find another young potential starter instead of a 31-year old player for almost $7M a year. Go ahead and negative my post. I really don't care. I just wanted to let you all know how I feel about this. All I can say is... we have some moves to make with those 6 potential starting safeties on our roster. There is no way that we can keep them all.

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6 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Because interceptions mean good coverage.

They mean making splash plays which is usually a great predictor of defensive success. Our defense has been poor that past two years because we have lacked turnovers and the splash plays. 

I'd much rather have a younger FS playing center field making splash plays than him. But that's just me I guess.

To top it off, he's already 31. His peak years are behind him. Had one of the best years a safety has ever had back in 2012. Too bad that was 4 years ago now. 

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Welcome to Baltimore Eric!! You'll find that this was the best choice you could've made for you, your career and your family! Nice choice.

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11 minutes ago, berad said:

I don't think he's ironclad, either. He blew a good number of coverages and had his share of lapses. Guess it's on the FO/coaches to determine whether those were his slip-ups, whether he he was covering up for someone else, scheme, etc.

That said, in my amateur opinion, I'd like him back. Still, what do we do with an expensive Webb and underwhelming Elam and Lewis?

This was pretty much my thinking.  I'd prefer to keep Hill but his cap savings just slight less than Elam and Lewis combined (about even with the rule of 51 net difference) and his dead cap hit is way lower than Webb's.  And then you have to remember that the Ravens prefer their drafted players over free agents usually and Webb has more front office fans than I'd assume Hill has.

Again, I hope Hill plays 19-20 games in the 2016 season for Baltimore, but it's not guaranteed

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Just now, Ravens4Real said:

They mean making splash plays which is usually a great predictor of defensive success. Our defense has been poor that past two years because we have lacked turnovers and the splash plays. 

I'd much rather have a younger FS playing center field making splash plays than him. But that's just me I guess.

 

Who did you want us to sign who's younger with more splash plays? It's not like we're oozing with safety talent here. 

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I wonder what the deal with Webb will be now? He is still making a ton of money this year. How can you have 2 free safety's making more than 7MM on the same team? Something's gotta give here.

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Just now, GrimCoconut said:

Who did you want us to sign who's younger with more splash plays? It's not like we're oozing with safety talent here. 

I guarantee you that if we allowed Brooks a two years of starting time and growth, that he makes more than 1 INT in 2 years of starting. 

Hell, Elam would have more INT's than that as a FS and he's an SS. Not that hard to play FS and get more than 1 INT in two years. 

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5 minutes ago, spitfire418 said:

I don't like this signing and I don't care if you disagree with me. A 4-year, $26M contract for a 31-year old safety when we already have a logjam at safety?! What is Ozzie thinking? Plus we had to restructure other players deals and probably lose our comp pick because of this signing... Wow. Yeah Weddle is a good player, but I just don't understand why we would pay all that money, restructure deals, and lose a comp pick for him when we have 5 potential starting safeties already on the roster. Now we have 4 guys who have started a lot in their careers and 2 young guys that have started a little bit and have shown their potential. I guess we have given up on both Brooks and Elam as well as Webb and Lewis? Ozzie just spoke so highly of Webb at the press conference not too long ago saying he will be a great safety and then he completely contradicts that statement with this signing. Also, I guess we won't draft a safety either this year even though it's a great safety class and we could easily find another young potential starter instead of a 31-year old player for almost $7M a year. Go ahead and negative my post. I really don't care. I just wanted to let you all know how I feel about this. All I can say is... we have some moves to make with those 6 potential starting safeties on our roster. There is no way that we can keep them all.

Remember that while it's a logjam, it's a logjam of guys that couldn't get the job done. It's clear we didn't like what we had back there. 

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39 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

I may be in the minority but I don't like it for the price.  4 years, 26M to add a 14th safety to the roster.  I guess we'll see how many safeties are getting cut soon.  I'm guessing Lewis, Elam, and Hill.

For the record I'm fine with the player, just not the price

its basically a 2yr deal. its less than what the jags paid for Gibson. its a good deal for his caliber

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5 minutes ago, spitfire418 said:

I don't like this signing and I don't care if you disagree with me. A 4-year, $26M contract for a 31-year old safety when we already have a logjam at safety?! What is Ozzie thinking? Plus we had to restructure other players deals and probably lose our comp pick because of this signing... Wow. Yeah Weddle is a good player, but I just don't understand why we would pay all that money, restructure deals, and lose a comp pick for him when we have 5 potential starting safeties already on the roster. Now we have 4 guys who have started a lot in their careers and 2 young guys that have started a little bit and have shown their potential. I guess we have given up on both Brooks and Elam as well as Webb and Lewis? Ozzie just spoke so highly of Webb at the press conference not too long ago saying he will be a great safety and then he completely contradicts that statement with this signing. Also, I guess we won't draft a safety either this year even though it's a great safety class and we could easily find another young potential starter instead of a 31-year old player for almost $7M a year. Go ahead and negative my post. I really don't care. I just wanted to let you all know how I feel about this. All I can say is... we have some moves to make with those 6 potential starting safeties on our roster. There is no way that we can keep them all.

So which of those 5 safeties did you want us to go into the season depending on as a starter? Because I hate to break it to ya, none of them are starters besides hill who is actually vastly overrated as a cover man.

 

Lewis, elam, and Brooks are all lacking in the mental department, Lewis is slow as molasses by NFl fs standards, Brooks is always injured, elam is a box guy who can't tackle. Then you have will hill who is also better off as a box guy, and Webb who is always a massive question mark. That gives us 1 starter at a position that requires 2, in comes weddle who is our 2nd starter. And a top flight one at that, so again... What is your question here? 

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1 minute ago, Ravens4Real said:

I guarantee you that if we allowed Brooks a two years of starting time and growth, that he makes more than 1 INT in 2 years of starting. 

Hell, Elam would have more INT's than that as a FS and he's an SS. Not that hard to play FS and get more than 1 INT in two years. 

Lol. Make two INTs and watch 20 other plays carving us up?

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8 minutes ago, spitfire418 said:

I don't like this signmeatd I don't care if you disagree w ith me. A 4-year, $26M contract for a 31-ynots old safety when we already have  a logjam at safety?! What is Ozzie thinking? Plus we had to restructure other players deals and probably lose our comp pick because of this signing... Wow. Yeah Weddle is a good player, but I just don't understand why we would pay all that money, restructure deals, and lose a comp pick for him when we have 5 potential starting safeties already on the roster. Now we have 4 guys who have started a lot in their careers and 2 young guys that have started a little bit and have shown their potential. I guess we have given up on both Brooks and Elam as well as Webb and Lewis? Ozzie just spoke so highly of Webb at the press conference not too long ago saying he will be a great safety and then he completely contradicts that statement with this signing. Also, I guess we won't draft a safety either this year even though it's a great safety class and we could easily find another young potential starter instead of a 31-year old player for almost $7M a year. Go ahead and negative my post. I really don't care. I just wanted to let you all know how I feel about this. All I can say is... we have some moves to make with those 6 potential starting safeties on our roster. There is no way that we can keep them all.

He was released...

And its A logjam right now..there is somethin called "cuts" .doesnt Mean they will all make the final 53..this is a phenomenal move..some ppl are just never happy. Oz sits back and waits for a steal- hes Not aggresive enough And is too cheap..oz Is aggresive and goes and gets a proven playmaker- oz Acted too quickly and paid too much. Smh

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4 minutes ago, January J said:

He was released...

And its A logjam right now..there is somethin called "cuts" .doesnt Mean they will all make the final 53..this is a phenomenal move..some ppl are just never happy. Oz sits back and waits for a steal- hes Not aggresive enough And is too cheap..oz Is aggresive and goes and gets a proven playmaker- oz Acted too quickly and paid too much. Smh

very well said

I for 1 love the move but we need to do something with the other safeties

then we have wallace in today,

Soooo,,, 

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So, there really are people that are unhappy with Eric Weddle at that price? He's precisely the guy we need to turn our whole secondary around. Just sit back and watch. My Chargers friends told me he's all but done, he was just being mistreated by SD's FO.

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Don't know much about Weddle but  I hope he is a at least a better tackler than our current group of safeties. 

Not many picks over the last few years is a concern. 

 

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Now sign Wallace, draft Bosa, Jack, or Buckner, sign or draft a tackle behind Monroe or find his replacement entirely and we'll be in business. 

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Jamison Hensley ESPN Staff Writer 

Eric Weddle's text to SD Union-Tribune's Kevin Acee: "I couldn't be more excited and pumped to be a part of a championship organization who wanted me from Day One."

Dude, what the heck did the Chargers do to Weddle?

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14 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

I guarantee you that if we allowed Brooks a two years of starting time and growth, that he makes more than 1 INT in 2 years of starting. 

Hell, Elam would have more INT's than that as a FS and he's an SS. Not that hard to play FS and get more than 1 INT in two years. 

And both guys would also have a lot of TD passes and blown tackles, because that's what they've shown so far.

But hey, they got those INTs, so that's something.

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seriously, I don't want to break our bank for Weddle cuz I thought he would cost us 10mil or something; 6.5mil for a playmaker in the back end when we have been lacked ever since Ed Reed retired is totally bargain deal.

 

I'm totally surprised we got him....totally....

 

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2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

So which of those 5 safeties did you want us to go into the season depending on as a starter? Because I hate to break it to ya, none of them are starters besides hill who is actually vastly overrated as a cover man.

 

Lewis, elam, and Brooks are all lacking in the mental department, Lewis is slow as molasses by NFl fs standards, Brooks is always injured, elam is a box guy who can't tackle. Then you have will hill who is also better off as a box guy, and Webb who is always a massive question mark. That gives us 1 starter at a position that requires 2, in comes weddle who is our 2nd starter. And a top flight one at that, so again... What is your question here? 

I don't have a question. I was just letting you all know how I felt about the move. We have Will Hill who is already locked into a starting safety spot along with 4 guys who are trying to start with him. Then we add Weddle which locks him into the other starting safety spot, leaving 4 guys who could possibly start for us. We can't have 4 backup safeties with starting potential. That's just impossible. I thought we already had too many safeties before this signing, plus the draft coming up with a good safety class. So I don't like how we go out and sign a 31-year old guy to a 4-year $26M contract who is regressing in his career and we lose out on a comp pick as well. Why can't we ever develop a safety like other teams. We never let them learn from their mistakes (unless they're first round picks, Elam). None of our safeties played good last year. Not even Hill really. So how can we tell if these other guys are bad when they could be affected by Dean Pees coaching.

2 minutes ago, January J said:

He was released...

And its A logjam right now..there is somethin called "cuts" .doesnt Mean they will all make the final 53..this is a phenomenal move..some ppl are just never happy. Oz sits back and waits for a steal- hes Not aggresive enough And is too cheap..oz Is aggresive and goes and gets a proven playmaker- oz Acted too quickly and paid too much. Smh

Pretty sure he wasn't released... he will count against our comp picks. Look it up. Plus I'm not saying Ozzie is bad, but this is a move that I don't like.

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13 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

I guarantee you that if we allowed Brooks a two years of starting time and growth, that he makes more than 1 INT in 2 years of starting. 

Hell, Elam would have more INT's than that as a FS and he's an SS. Not that hard to play FS and get more than 1 INT in two years. 

Well, as a rookie Brooks looked right at the ball coming his way and had a lot of time to adjust to the ball to intercept it and failed to do that. I also like Brooks a lot, but even coming out of FSU his hands were considered a major question mark on him. I think you're exaggerating here. I quite like Brooks, but let's not act like this will stunt his growth or something. Maybe Weddle helps Brooks become a better safety? 

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