Is Ezekiel Elliott worth the #6 pick?

[numerounopapi]

Now that we're down to the final weeks till the draft. I'd like to know if Ravens nation would be on board with drafting Elliot with our 1st round pick. I think the consensus feeling for our pick is centered on a defense playmaker, but in a hypothetical situation where Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner, and Jack are not available when we're on the clock. Would drafting Elliot be a realistic choice based off of pure talent and would everyone support the pick? Thoughts!? 

[Prino61]

I would say yes if RB was a need. I think he will turn out one he\\ of a player

[Jaybirds]

If Cleveland does NOT take a QB (hey, it could happen), then yeah we could miss out on all those guys. 

Running backs in general are hardly ever going to be worth a #6 pick overall.  The injury risks, short careers, and trends towards backfield committees have really suppressed their value as a group.  You just don't have to take one that early because the risk/reward is comparable to guys in the 2nd, 3rd, even 4th rounds. 

Having said all that..... if we're looking for a playmaker on offense, he's the guy.  I think Trestman would love to use him like Forte back in Chicago.  And personally I think we're thin at the position (Trent Richardson).  

I'm sooooo close to saying yes, let's take him at 6.  But if you add VH3 to the group above, then we WILL get someone on defense. 

[ngatainmyhouse]

If we could trade Forsett and get any value I think I would be on board with it. Buck Allen and Zeke would be a great and inexpensive back field. That could free up room to re-sign Brandon Williams before he leaves for top dollar like Osemele did

[Jacquouille]

How about trading up in the 20s to get him if the Jets don't?

[January J]

What do you think? Absolutely not. If Henry falls to the 2nd then yeah ofcourse..but no way no how would we go rb at 6. Not with our logjam at the position as is.

[ALPHA]

Yes, he'd dynamic, durable and can shoulder the entire offense with his pass protection and pass catching. 

[Edgar]

Would in theory help our passing  game and our defense

[Underdogsontop!]

Honestly I don't see the hype with Zeke. I just wouldn't be as excited if we took him over a VH3 or maybe a top edge guy or a OT. I really like Buck Allens potential and would like to see Terrance West improve playing for the team he grew up watching. 

[ngatainmyhouse]

46 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

How about trading up in the 20s to get him if the Jets don't?

I feel like there's no way he makes it to the 20s. Stranger things of happened but he's ranked a lot higher than Melvin Gordon was coming out and with Todd Gurley's success it's more reasonable for teams to go up and get a RB that can be a difference maker

[JoeyFlex5]

no. 

 

rbs have too short a shelf life and depend too much on other factors to be successful. 

 

iff hes by far the BPA then its a different story, but if it comes down to vh3 or buckner or jack vs elliott then elliott loses

[arnie_uk]

As a player yes. He's likely top 6 on a strictly talent perspective.

Positonal importance likely drops him to 12 to 15 range.

[Jaybirds]

6 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Yes, he'd dynamic, durable and can shoulder the entire offense with his pass protection and pass catching. 

I'd add clock management to that list as well.  All those games won/lost by one score last year.  I think time of possession is a major way to improve our record quickly. 

[Baltimore RAYvens]

If we trade back into the 10-15 range for a future 1, then sure. Certainly not at pick 6 though. Those days are gone

[Boddiebroadus]

No way. Plus I really liked what I saw from buck and west. 2nd round sure. 

[RavensDieHard21]

Great player, but no. I would take Hargreaves, Lawson, and probably Stanley over him if the top 4 defensive players were all gone. We have other areas to address that will make a better immediate impact.

[usmccharles]

Bosa, Ramsey, VH3, Buckner, Jack, Tunsil

Somehow if they were all gone, maybe.....I mean I wouldn't do it, if it were even possible.  Scoring points wasn't our issue last year, or even the year before that, it was stopping teams from scoring.

And I have been a huge advocate for finding us the next Ray Rice, but not at 6....and not a woman beater. 

[ALPHA]

9 hours ago, Jaybirds said:

I'd add clock management to that list as well.  All those games won/lost by one score last year.  I think time of possession is a major way to improve our record quickly. 

True, the only problem is running backs are never guaranteed to produce regardless of how high they are taken. I guess like any other position there are risks involved.

[usmccharles]

2 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

True, the only problem is running backs are never guaranteed to produce regardless of how high they are taken. I guess like any other position there are risks involved.

insert Trent Richardson.

Just dawned on me, how funny it would be if the Browns took Elliot

[JoeyFlex5]

Its safe to say that a much more valued prospect will be there at 6. Whether it be jack, bosa, or a more worse case scenario vh3 it buckner, all are of a similar caliber of talent and at much more valued positions that we need. 

 

Jack is at a less valuable position, but he's on a separate tier from Elliott, he's up there with tunsil in terms of talent, Elliott is at an even lesser valued position, in which we have a logjam in this team, and is simply on a lesser tier, I'd put him in the 3rd tier with guys like shaq lawson, Spence, alexander, treadwell, and Stanley.

[ALPHA]

The big board in our front office never looks like what we expect it to so I try not to pit too much stock into certain players. I just hope whoever we pick is right for the team, previous drafts suggest half of the top 10 will not pan out.

[ellicottraven]

6 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Bosa, Ramsey, VH3, Buckner, Jack, Tunsil

Somehow if they were all gone, maybe.....I mean I wouldn't do it, if it were even possible.  Scoring points wasn't our issue last year, or even the year before that, it was stopping teams from scoring.

And I have been a huge advocate for finding us the next Ray Rice, but not at 6....and not a woman beater. 

You named 6 players and how are we not going to be able to pick one of them when we only have 5 players being picked ahead of us? Probably an accounting error on your part.

[Edgar]

I echo a lot of the sentiments above but I don't think I would be surprised if Ozzie picked this guy over Buckner(assuming Jack,Ramsey,Bosa gone).

i keep hearing,"playmaker" and,"instant coffe"(no one likes that stuff- not sure about that expression).

[jdynamite]

I have to say no to Zeke at the #6 pick based on current personnel and needs.  I like Zeke a lot especially his pass protection skills as such a young RB, but with current NFL makeup of using multiple RBs and us having Forsett, B.Allen, T.West, & LT already on the roster he would undoubtedly share carries. Even if the team manage to move Forsett for a late round pick I can't see Zeke coming in and having year one success like an Edgerrin James or Jamal Lewis be so dynamic that an offense can be built around him.  

I felt like Gurley was a dynamic powerful runner similar to AP while in college and worthy of high draft pick ( the knee injury hurt that some ). I've never felt that way about Zeke for some reason. 

I would certainly be comfortable with the team drafting him if we traded back in the first round. Or if we moved back into the bottom of the 1st round. 

[January J]

22 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

no. 

 

rbs have too short a shelf life and depend too much on other factors to be successful. 

 

iff hes by far the BPA then its a different story, but if it comes down to vh3 or buckner or jack vs elliott then elliott loses

 what about spence Vs. Elliot ? 

[Jaybirds]

11 minutes ago, January J said:

 what about spence Vs. Elliot ? 

People still project Spence for the first round? 

[ALPHA]

3 hours ago, Jaybirds said:

People still project Spence for the first round? 

The heart wants what the heart wants lol

[thieverycorporation]

Very good value could be had in latter rounds @ the position. Drake, Prosise, offer upside to the position as well. If we move back and acquire picks it's feasible to get even a Henry if he's there. His pro day went very well by all accounts.

[bMore Heathen]

Even if no QBs go in the top 5 I would take Lawson, VHIII or even Treadwell over Elliott. 

[Raven'evermore]

 What about trading with the Rams and possibly taking Elliott, Alexander or Spence with the fifteenth pick and then grabbing Spriggs with their second (take care of LT) and maybe a cb w/ our 2nd.  26th ranked in rushing last year, not good.  Although I do like Jack the more I think about how he and Mosley could shut down the inside.