[News] Late For Work 3/9: Ozzie Newsome Throws Everyone For A Loop With Uncharacteristic Move

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Can’t blame Ravens for losing Osemele. Upshaw to Indy? Comp pick update. WR Wallace would fit Ravens.

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[RavensDieHard21]

Yanda is a true Raven and I like the irony in it, even though the restructure essentially still benefited him regardless. Ozzie is clearing cap space thank God. We must be patient until June 1st, that's when our time should be.

[RavensDieHard21]

Not to be a downer either, but to make an immediate move for Watson is kinda bonkers. I get the whole deal that he had a great year in NO and had 800 yards and 6 TDs, but guess what? He was in NO with Brees in a pass heavy offense that consistently has to throw to get back into games. He might be a veteran, but he's 35 and now going to get $4 million a year when we need cap room desperately, especially moving forward. Not a fan of this move at all and will mess up the comp pick formula, particularly since KO might garner a 3rd round comp. I only see Vernon eclipsing the amount of money KO is getting so a questionable move this is.

[Black&purple#55]

Yanda is a true Raven and I like the irony in it, even though the restructure essentially still benefited him regardless. Ozzie is clearing cap space thank God. We must be patient until June 1st, that's when our time should be.

well the decent UFA are gone by then, thats why we always end up with Arrington, K.lewis and etc. We should be aggresive this year for a change

[mendii]

I like the Watson pick up, having a high character veteran at the tight end spot will be immensely helpful for our young TEs, and he can definitely still make some moves himself. It's a two year deal, the offense is still getting younger and faster long term, but a short term mentor will be great. Between him, Flacco, Forsett, Steve, and Yanda we've got a leader in the locker room at every position on offense.

[stixfix69]

Oz will make the most of what we can spend on FA....Every year we fight the cap, and it is no different this year......IMO we just need to tweak our roster, not rebuild it, so many young players got a lot of real game experience and will step it up this year, that was the silver lining in a injury riddled season....

[WNC-Raven]

Didnt KO say repeatedly that he doesnt want to play Tackle? I wish him the best in Oakland but that much money...Let's just say that is the typical set up for failure when a Raven leaves the flock. Money = expectations. I believe KO will be successful, at guard.

[surfdude]

I agree I think Wallace would be a great fit. He knows the division and should be paired with a strong armed QB. I think his career would some what go back to the days at Pitt. If the price is right GO FOR IT !

[Black&purple#55]

hope we land Wallace, that LT from steelers and Pac man Jones. Im happy with that!!

[bioLarzen]

I agree I think Wallace would be a great fit. He knows the division and should be paired with a strong armed QB. I think his career would some what go back to the days at Pitt. If the price is right GO FOR IT !

Sadly, the WR free agent market is indeed shallow, whivh makes Wallace one of the top commodities - and there are quite some teams out there with much more to spend than us.

Well, at least we can hope.

[bioLarzen]

Didnt KO say repeatedly that he doesnt want to play Tackle? I wish him the best in Oakland but that much money...Let's just say that is the typical set up for failure when a Raven leaves the flock. Money = expectations. I believe KO will be successful, at guard.

Well - what he wants to do is one thing. What he has to do is another.

[Grapple Raven]

I always get a kick out of the oxymoron "legal tampering, lol!  Just cracks me up!

[JoeyFlex5]

im not a big fan of wallace but ill have to admit that talent wise he is absolutely on par with torrey smith. every team who signed him since he left pitt has been a horrible fit, neither teddy nor tannehill can drive the ball downfield well enough for wallace to be effective. having the speedy combination of perriman and wallace allows for a lot of things, our offense simply needs the looming threat of a deep TD any time flacco drops back for it to work, without speed our offense is broken, run game, short passing game, play action, all of it falls apart without speed. id love to see that overdose of speed on out the outside.

the watson move... not a fan, too much salary, bumped down your possible 3rd comp pick to possibly a 7th...

i just hope this new style of management stays in free agency and doesnt carry over into the draft, stay patient and stop rushing and making panic signings.

[bioLarzen]

  58 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Yanda is a true Raven and I like the irony in it, even though the restructure essentially still benefited him regardless. Ozzie is clearing cap space thank God. We must be patient until June 1st, that's when our time should be.

well the decent UFA are gone by then, thats why we always end up with Arrington, K.lewis and etc. We should be aggresive this year for a change

That's cherry picking. We also got Vonta Leach, Pollard, Jacoby, McKinnie, Corey Graham, Dumervil, Steve Smith, Justin Forsett and Owen Daniels late - which we may not have been able to do if Ozzie was active in the first wave of free agency.

So, we have good examples and bad ones alike.

[Bob21043]

Much as I'd hate to see an ex-Pittsbugher in a Ravens uniform, Wallace would certainly bring another threat/weapon for Joe. Him and Perriman (hopefully) can do some field stretching.

[bird breath 14]

The talent drain continues, we lose all of our good young players and this is what we get in return. Where are the difference makers??

[Grapple Raven]

Even with TE Watson, I still would like us to bring in another rookie via the draft.  I especially like Bryce Williams ECU, he is a great red zone threat, good route runner and has natural hands, great work ethic, high character,  guy good size too.  Watched him play in college and the guy can catch a ball and he is sturdy!  Please give Flacco someone that can grow with him over a period of years.

As for WR's I personally am pulling for Doctson in the draft to make it to the Ravens. There is just something about the guy that screams WR to me.   I also hope we get to see what Cam Worthy can do this year...that guy is a baller at WR.

 

[fusuymada]

26 minutes ago, WNC-Raven said:

Didnt KO say repeatedly that he doesnt want to play Tackle? I wish him the best in Oakland but that much money...Let's just say that is the typical set up for failure when a Raven leaves the flock. Money = expectations. I believe KO will be successful, at guard.

Yes and Oakland's left tackle said he isn't leaving so the Oakland/san Diego/San Antonio/Las Vegas/St Louis/Los Angeles Raiders are paying him 60 mil to play guard. This is why Oakland sucks all the time but players go there to get rich off of them. I doubt Mike Wallace would even consider an offer from Baltimore if anything else is out there. He has routinely stated he heavily dislikes the Ravens, Sarah wrote about it in a LFW in 2013 (which still pops up in google if you put Ravens and Wallace in together). Bisciotti dissed him by bad mouthing him and saying he wasn't worth that money they paid him and there has been bad blood back and forth for years. I like the idea but we have to really be concerned about Perriman to add another burner as an insurance policy. Plus don't we also have Chris Givens hanging on, also.

Edited March 9, 2016 by fusuymada
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[allblackraven]

4 minutes ago, Grapple Raven said:

Even with TE Watson, I still would like us to bring in another rookie via the draft.  I especially like Bryce Williams ECU, he is a great red zone threat, good route runner and has natural hands, great work ethic, high character,  guy good size too.  Watched him play in college and the guy can catch a ball and he is sturdy!  Please give Flacco someone that can grow with him over a period of years.

Uh, Flacco recently got Gillmore (3rd round) and Williams (2nd) - two really good TEs to be here for a long time. Beside Watson we also tendered Chase Ford (ERFA). Boyle may not be on the out yet. That's a lot of investment in TE position.

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, Black&purple#55 said:

well the decent UFA are gone by then, thats why we always end up with Arrington, K.lewis and etc. We should be aggresive this year for a change

I'd rather Ozzie keep making moves to clear space and after June 1st a lot of teams make difficult moves by cutting guys that cannot afford moving forward. Right now, every below team will bid up any player worth getting. Being aggressive only really works when a top prospect like a Dumervil hits the market and we have a chance to get them at a fair price.

[Grapple Raven]

33 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Uh, Flacco recently got Gillmore (3rd round) and Williams (2nd) - two really good TEs to be here for a long time. Beside Watson we also tendered Chase Ford (ERFA). Boyle may not be on the out yet. That's a lot of investment in TE position.

We have a gaggle still on the roster and all make not make the 53 roster, lol, some with injury prone concerns and some that haven't really seen a whole lot of field time.   But I say a new baby rookie TE added to the Raven nest might not be a bad insurance.  Look at how quickly our TE's dropped last season, and pretty early in the season to boot.  Bryce Williams is healthy and a good player and could be converted to a WR too. Give him a shot and see what he can do...could surprise ya~

[Bob21043]

Even Dan Brown - he's as big as a TE, play him out of the slot.

[Tenacious Faulker]

Like the Watson signing and have always thought he was the most underrate TE. He can block inline and catch with the best of them and has a clean character. True he's older but age is a number and he's been very durable these past 4 seasons. If he counts against the NFL cap then they Ravens won't likely need a comp pick for a TE then.

Mike Wallace would be interesting. He's still just 29 and has speed, and his poor 2015 could've been just the horrible Viking pass offense and Bridgewater. However, there's a log jam at WR here with other speedsters. If they think he's better than Givens and are willing to let that 7th rd pick for him go then Wallace could be a fit IF his attitude will fit out locker room and coaching.

[Edgar]

So Wallace to me if everyone is healthy is a situational receiver behind smith,campanaro,perriman and Aiken.

an insurance policy against injury,particularly a perriman injury. Apart from that the thought isn't too intriguing.

[steelcityraven]

So Wallace to me if everyone is healthy is a situational receiver behind smith,campanaro,perriman and Aiken.

an insurance policy against injury,particularly a perriman injury. Apart from that the thought isn't too intriguing.

Don't forget about Waller. Waller has speed and size and now some NFL experience and an improved understanding of our system. Waller may be that wild card and if that is the case? Where does Mike Wallace fit in? I think he may be too much money to pay to be 5th or 6th on the depth chart? (the issue however is SSS is coming off of a serious injury, as is Perriman, as is Camp, as is Waller)???? Can we afford not to have an insurance policy? (I see us drafting another speed guy more then signing Wallace- or possibly even brining Givens back)??? Plus Wallace has under achieved everywhere he has been since Pittsburgh!

[budman]

  2 hours ago, Black&purple#55 said:

  3 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Yanda is a true Raven and I like the irony in it, even though the restructure essentially still benefited him regardless. Ozzie is clearing cap space thank God. We must be patient until June 1st, that's when our time should be.

well the decent UFA are gone by then, thats why we always end up with Arrington, K.lewis and etc. We should be aggresive this year for a change

That's cherry picking. We also got Vonta Leach, Pollard, Jacoby, McKinnie, Corey Graham, Dumervil, Steve Smith, Justin Forsett and Owen Daniels late - which we may not have been able to do if Ozzie was active in the first wave of free agency.

So, we have good examples and bad ones alike.

nail on head.

[billiejean]

2 hours ago, Grapple Raven said:

2 hours ago, allblackraven said:

Uh, Flacco recently got Gillmore (3rd round) and Williams (2nd) - two really good TEs to be here for a long time. Beside Watson we also tendered Chase Ford (ERFA). Boyle may not be on the out yet. That's a lot of investment in TE position.

We have a gaggle still on the roster and all make not make the 53 roster, lol, some with injury prone concerns and some that haven't really seen a whole lot of field time.   But I say a new baby rookie TE added to the Raven nest might not be a bad insurance.  Look at how quickly our TE's dropped last season, and pretty early in the season to boot.  Bryce Williams is healthy and a good player and could be converted to a WR too. Give him a shot and see what he can do...could surprise ya~

Bryce is as slow as molasses. There is no way that they convert a guy that ran a 4.94 forty to receiver. If anything that time relegates you to being a blocking tight end.  Really we have enough tight ends on the roster and shouldn't waste a pick on another. We have drafted three tight ends in the last two years which is more than enough.  Especially with Watson coming aboard.

Edited March 9, 2016 by billiejean

[FloridalovesRavens]

  2 hours ago, Edgar said:

So Wallace to me if everyone is healthy is a situational receiver behind smith,campanaro,perriman and Aiken.

an insurance policy against injury,particularly a perriman injury. Apart from that the thought isn't too intriguing.

Don't forget about Waller. Waller has speed and size and now some NFL experience and an improved understanding of our system. Waller may be that wild card and if that is the case? Where does Mike Wallace fit in? I think he may be too much money to pay to be 5th or 6th on the depth chart? (the issue however is SSS is coming off of a serious injury, as is Perriman, as is Camp, as is Waller)???? Can we afford not to have an insurance policy? (I see us drafting another speed guy more then signing Wallace- or possibly even brining Givens back)??? Plus Wallace has under achieved everywhere he has been since Pittsburgh!

I think we can compliment Wallace more with our line up compared to where he has been since leaving Steelers.

[RavensBaltimore]

I wonder why Ozzie wanted Watson more than Daniels. Last year was Watson's only good year in a while, while Daniels has been much more consistent with his production and is younger and has played with Flacco in our system before. Maybe he feels Watson is a better red zone target, which we could really use.

I think Wallace would be a good fit if and only if we can get him cheap. I can see him filling a Jacoby Jones type of role, where he helps open up the field with his speed but doesn't do much else.

[ravens4life86]

Thats why.. Ozzie should probably stay in the "CUT" Player signees now. That way we would atleast get 1 should be 3rd round comp for Osemele, with Upshaw/Watson offsetting.

So players like..CBs-Pacman,Cromartie,Carr, WR Wallace, Pass Rusher Chris Long, lbr Larinitus..etc