What do you folks think about our WR depth chart for 2016? Will we draft a WR?

[deacfan]

Campanaro is going to have a huge season!!

[rmcjacket23]

9 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Yes you may be able to draft a difference maker at another position, however if a guy like Doctson is sitting a 36 and he's the highest rated player on the Ravens board, you don't pass him up for the sake of not needing another quality WR. Especially when you don't have a set WR group beyond 2016.

They have really good reason to like Aiken, in fact they should love him. I would have no problem going into the future with Aiken as one of the top WRs along with Perriman(hopefully). The problem is, you only have Aiken on a 1yr deal and if he has another solid season he may just price himself out of Baltimore the way teams pay WRs.

I don't think you necessarily need 3 or 4 quality WRs but you also can't avoid add quality talent to a position because you already have an answer in 2016, but things are cloudy in 2017. I just don't think you can have a potential top end WR sitting there in the 2nd or 3rd round and pass because of the current WR group.

Sure, if he's the highest rated player, you take him.

The issue is that fans often rate players differently than the FO does (and obviously the FO knows more), so if Doctson is sitting there at 36, and we don't take him, fans will think we're doing it simply because we don't want a WR, whereas the likelihood is that the FO just wasn't as high on him a fans were.

The reality is that while we have the "BPA" strategy, our draft board is built to take the BPA amongst the teams needs. 

[Ravensfan23]

45 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Sure, if he's the highest rated player, you take him.

The issue is that fans often rate players differently than the FO does (and obviously the FO knows more), so if Doctson is sitting there at 36, and we don't take him, fans will think we're doing it simply because we don't want a WR, whereas the likelihood is that the FO just wasn't as high on him a fans were.

The reality is that while we have the "BPA" strategy, our draft board is built to take the BPA amongst the teams needs. 

Agreed 100% and to be clear I agree with your opinion of the WR group. It just felt as if your stance was that even of a WR is the highest rated guy you ignore him and select another position of need because the WR group is set for 2016. 

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, Ravensfan23 said:

Agreed 100% and to be clear I agree with your opinion of the WR group. It just felt as if your stance was that even of a WR is the highest rated guy you ignore him and select another position of need because the WR group is set for 2016. 

No, my stance is that we won't take a WR in the second round because a mock draft or fans think we should, regardless of who it is.

[D-Rey]

On 4/5/2016 at 4:26 PM, thieverycorporation said:

It's really looking like Perriman's reported injury has a lot to do with some type of degenerative disorder as reported. Most fans seem to think it was a hack reporter disseminating the story. I don't and think the Ravens gambled on a speedster and combine influenced work out/pro day. It shouldn't take that long to get over that reported injury. It's truly not a good look. It would seem that he had far more extensive damage then we've heard or have been lead to believe. I certainly wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket he's carrying. The Ravens will look real dumb if they don't take another viable receiver that has at least 2nd round merits. Waiting for day three will only add enormous scrutiny and the chatter will not be of the kind nature. We aren't the only ones looking @ the failed position for far too long. They may say he's being saved from re-injury. Really? 

I mean none of us are doctors, but from what I heard a PCL injury can take a long time to fully recover from.

[Maryland]

At #36, there probably won't be good value on any WRs sitting there compared to positions like CB, DL, or OL. Assuming Treadwell is gone, Boyd is the next best WR (and I'm in the minority on this), and he only seems like average value at #36. It would be a reach to draft any other WR that high. 

You can get better value on WRs from round 3 and back. The dearth of WR talent is pushing guys too far up the board out of need.

Edited April 7, 2016 by Maryland

[thieverycorporation]

4 hours ago, D-Rey said:

I mean none of us are doctors, but from what I heard a PCL injury can take a long time to fully recover from.

No matter whats being said it's disturbing for him not being running in full after almost a year. I'm rooting for him no doubt but we need to double down for insurance. Your two best receivers (now questionable with Wallace) coming off major injuries isn't a good jump off point. Competition will produce the diamond. Relying on them both being healthy and effective is not an option I'd be comfortable as a coach or GM. Period.

On to another article of topic sorta:

http://russellstreetreport.com/2016/04/07/nfl-draft/6-trade-back-targets-hargreaves-treadwell/ 

[Drew P]

16 minutes ago, thieverycorporation said:

No matter whats being said it's disturbing for him not being running in full after almost a year. I'm rooting for him no doubt but we need to double down for insurance. Your two best receivers (now questionable with Wallace) coming off major injuries isn't a good jump off point. Competition will produce the diamond. Relying on them both being healthy and effective is not an option I'd be comfortable as a coach or GM. Period.

On to another article of topic sorta:

http://russellstreetreport.com/2016/04/07/nfl-draft/6-trade-back-targets-hargreaves-treadwell/ 

The NFL network was talking about Stanley last night they stated there were GM's that questioned his toughness. They went on the say he may fall out of the top ten.

[ALPHA]

Anyone like Sterling Shepard?

[BmoreBird22]

8 hours ago, D-Rey said:

I mean none of us are doctors, but from what I heard a PCL injury can take a long time to fully recover from.

PCL injuries have a lot less research around them, so surgery is less perfect.

[thieverycorporation]

5 hours ago, Drew P said:

The NFL network was talking about Stanley last night they stated there were GM's that questioned his toughness. They went on the say he may fall out of the top ten.

I wouldn't touch Stanley period. Never liked his tape. I'd be PO'ed at the pick honestly.

[thieverycorporation]

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

PCL injuries have a lot less research around them, so surgery is less perfect.

Either way I don't like the sounds coming that camp. I prey it's a fluke that he's not quite ready.

[deacfan]

12 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Anyone like Sterling Shepard?

Love his game! Heard he has had a ton of concussions..dont be surprised if he drops way dowm..

[usmccharles]

8 hours ago, thieverycorporation said:

Either way I don't like the sounds coming that camp. I prey it's a fluke that he's not quite ready.

Hasn't everything with him been a fluke

[Tru11]

id be worried if perriman wasent running at full speed when TC starts.

now it really that much of an issue TBH.

[berad]

4 hours ago, Tru11 said:

id be worried if perriman wasent running at full speed when TC starts.

now it really that much of an issue TBH.

Agree. He suffered his original injury in the summer, got a surgery in the fall (mid-season). He's rehabbing, still.

[Ravensfan23]

4 hours ago, Tru11 said:

id be worried if perriman wasent running at full speed when TC starts.

now it really that much of an issue TBH.

 

18 minutes ago, berad said:

Agree. He suffered his original injury in the summer, got a surgery in the fall (mid-season). He's rehabbing, still.

Not only that, nobody ever said he wasn't running fully. They just said they don't know but the reports on him are good. Coaches can't really interact with players at all right now. So the best thing to do is allow Perriman to stay under medical care until the OTAs. 

[thieverycorporation]

20 hours ago, Drew P said:

The NFL network was talking about Stanley last night they stated there were GM's that questioned his toughness. They went on the say he may fall out of the top ten.

Honestly I'd be bummed if thats our first round pick. Truly. 

[thieverycorporation]

6 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Hasn't everything with him been a fluke

Sad but true. Hoping the Ravens reinforce the reinforcements. With nine picks and some possibles they need to double dip at the position.

[Cville-Raven]

21 hours ago, ALPHA said:

Anyone like Sterling Shepard?

Yeah, I like him a lot and really hope he's there at 70. 

[usmccharles]

2 hours ago, thieverycorporation said:

Sad but true. Hoping the Ravens reinforce the reinforcements. With nine picks and some possibles they need to double dip at the position.

I'm a huge fan of BP as well,  but if don't see him in a preseason game...my optimism will quickly turn into fear.  

[Number23]

11 hours ago, Tru11 said:

id be worried if perriman wasent running at full speed when TC starts.

now it really that much of an issue TBH.

I wouldn't be worried normally either, but I think most fans are worried about the extra level of secrecy around the injury. It's like they found out Breshad's a space alien when they did the surgery and they don't think we can handle the news.

[thieverycorporation]

8 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I'm a huge fan of BP as well,  but if don't see him in a preseason game...my optimism will quickly turn into fear.  

No doubt. No doubt. It would be amazing if he reaches his full potential. It all has to click. This could be a nasty year if we put our squad together correctly. Speed Kills.

[Mad Puppy]

On 4/7/2016 at 7:39 AM, deacfan said:

Campanaro is going to have a huge season!!

I say False

We drafted Camp in the last round of a historic WR class . He will be cut during training camp after yet another injury.

[Mad Puppy]

There are a number of WR's that I think would be good fits for the Ravens: (here is the order I would rank them)

Michael Thomas 

Sterling Shepard

Pharoh Cooper

Rashard Higgins

Kenny Lawler

Hunter Sharp

Trajae Sharpe

 

[RaineV1]

On 4/7/2016 at 5:08 PM, ALPHA said:

Anyone like Sterling Shepard?

He's my favorite receiver in this draft.

[ALPHA]

On 4/8/2016 at 7:31 PM, deacfan said:

Love his game! Heard he has had a ton of concussions..dont be surprised if he drops way dowm..

He should wear the new procap

[PolishRifle]

5 hours ago, Mad Puppy said:

There are a number of WR's that I think would be good fits for the Ravens: (here is the order I would rank them)

Michael Thomas 

Sterling Shepard

Pharoh Cooper

Rashard Higgins

Kenny Lawler

Hunter Sharp

Trajae Sharpe

 

This years WR draft class seems really bad. We'll have to rely on SSS (coming back from a major injury and ageing), BP (coming back from a season long injury, that just wouldn't heal right and also unproven) and Mike Wallace (may be on the downturn of his carreer). It's still probably one our better WR groups. Gosh, we're so bad at creating passing offenses. I dread Joe Flaccos retirement, when we'll go back to looking for a franchise QB.

[Ravensfan23]

5 hours ago, Mad Puppy said:

I say False

We drafted Camp in the last round of a historic WR class . He will be cut during training camp after yet another injury.

The only way I see Camp getting cut is if he's injured again early or if a dynamic guy who's similar like Sterling Shepard is drafted. 

Camp has really craved out a niche for himself or a similar WR in this offense. The key for him is healthy obviously. 

[Mad Puppy]

1 hour ago, PolishRifle said:

This years WR draft class seems really bad. We'll have to rely on SSS (coming back from a major injury and ageing), BP (coming back from a season long injury, that just wouldn't heal right and also unproven) and Mike Wallace (may be on the downturn of his carreer). It's still probably one our better WR groups. Gosh, we're so bad at creating passing offenses. I dread Joe Flaccos retirement, when we'll go back to looking for a franchise QB.

All true, but the guys I mentioned are better than most our guys.