What do you folks think about our WR depth chart for 2016? Will we draft a WR?

[Gordo52]

Not very confident in our group at this time.

 

Steve Smith - I have no doubt he'll come back strong but, he's still going to be 37 and coming off a major injury. Last year he set the bar extremely high. How much can we reasonably expect from him and do we really want to run him into the dirt?

 

Perriman - Look, he was questionable even when we drafted him. Had legitimate concerns he hasn't had a chance to address yet. I want to remain optimistic but to act like we can rely on him is foolish. I'm hoping for the best but he hasn't proven anything yet. His injury was more sketchy than his hands were in college. I'm hoping he can contribute a large part but I'm dubious until proven otherwise. He's also coming off that major injury so it wouldn't be wise to assume he's ready or the same.

 

Aiken - Will likely be our #2. Would make a great #3, but a lethal #4. Impressed by his play from last season. Don't feel good about heavily relying on him though. 

 

Camp - He would be great if he can ever see the field. 

 

So as of now, horrible-shaky depth. If it wasn't for our amazing TE core, I would be worried about the passing game.

 

Adding Mike Wallace for cheap would be nice. Gives us the speed threat we desperately missed last season. Givens was meh but coming in during the season and having zero chemistry/familiarity in the offense is hard for any player to succeed.

At the very least, Wallace brings the speed factor outside and gives us depth/competition beside Perriman. 

 

I know it's no longer popular and I used to despise the idea myself, but if certain players are gone when we pick, I'd strongly advocate for Treadwell.

 

Smith-Treadwell-Aiken-Perriman would be dirty. Would give Joe a legit playmaker outside with a very high ceiling & Trestman the offense he'd prefer to run. Would take a lot of much needed pressure off of Smith and let him work the inside. The energy they would bring would make defenses actually fear us. I believe Smith is the perfect 1-year mentor for Treadwell as well. Pressure would also significantly drop for Perriman, (who I believe desperatly needs it) He would have someone similar to work & grow with for at least the next 3-4 years. Aiken would thrive in 1 on 1 matchups when Joe spreads em out. (Also possible that he's likely gone along with Smith next year...The constant turnover is detrimental and rather annoying. Let Joe have someone he can build chemistry with again!)

 

Our highly skilled & paid QB would finally be given the keys, and I think he's more than ready. Having Tread & Perriman would guarantee Joe having familiarity/chemistry + promising talent for at least the next 3-4 years during his prime. Traits a lot of successful offenses highly value. Treadwell could be his younger, higher ceiling Derrick Mason. (Also brings value to the run game as an adequate blocker)

Imagine how many ways we'd be able to attack at every level with our passing game featuring:

WR: Tread, Smith, Perriman, Aiken, Camp? (Wallace too????)

TE: Gilmore,Watson,Maxx (eventually Boyle, maybe Waller)

Juice, Buck and Forsett.

 

Defenses would legitimately fear us. Joe wouldn't have to labor nearly as hard for once. The offense will be energized.

It would be glorious. 

[Maryland]

@Gordo52

I'm with you on your pessimistic (realistic?) take on our WR depth right now. No one can feel 100% confident in SSS staying healthy; Perriman is still a mystery from a talent perspective; Camp can't stay healthy; and Aiken (as well as SSS) may have only 1 more season with the team because he will be a UFA. It's all a good reason to draft multiple WRs: we need depth for right now and talent for the future (and I'm not talking about a 6th round flyer on some project WR).

If we go into 2016 with the same WR corps, then we will be doomed to repeat history by not learning from it. 

[ALPHA]

Apparently we're bringing in Wallace, it would be a good situation in terms of starting at the top of the depth chart with a big arm QB, downside is he's getting a lowball offer and our system never produces big WR numbers and he might be looking for a prove it deal.

I would be surprised if we take Treadwell, he's a great player but kind of limited. A trade back for Josh Doctson could work if he falls.

[Wildabeast88]

There are 19 WRs with top 4 round grades on them 13 top 3rounds I feel good about a 3rd 4th round guy being able to produce I don't see a top 2round pick being an option since we so badly need pass rushers add maybe a CB so I see 3rd round t the earliest 

[Ravenslifer]

If the FO feels that the injured guys will be ready to go week 1, and especially if we do end up signing Wallace or another vet, I would wait until the 3rd round or beyond and draft one.  Wide receivers tend to fall in the draft so IMO it's very likely we could draft a guy in the 3rd or 4th round that we valued a round higher.  My only criteria would be to look for a guy who could get snaps early and contribute rather than find a guy who rides the bench or the PS the entire season.

[Underdogsontop!]

With the signing of Eric Weddle, I wonder if it affects the offer or signing of Mike Wallace??

[GrimCoconut]

56 minutes ago, Underdogsontop! said:

With the signing of Eric Weddle, I wonder if it affects the offer or signing of Mike Wallace??

I recall reading somewhere that we want Wallace but for our price, so I think that's unlikely.

[rmw10]

1 hour ago, Underdogsontop! said:

With the signing of Eric Weddle, I wonder if it affects the offer or signing of Mike Wallace??

Unlikely.  You're looking at a cap number as low as $3M for Weddle.  Still plenty of room for Wallace if we want him.

Edited March 14, 2016 by rmw10

[GrimCoconut]

I think this WR class is kind of garbage to be honest. I don't think we will take one until the 3rd day. It's just not that impressive to me. I think we'd take Boyd if he fell to us at the right spot, but I think we're more likely to wait at WR. 

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think this WR class is kind of garbage to be honest. I don't think we will take one until the 3rd day. It's just not that impressive to me. I think we'd take Boyd if he fell to us at the right spot, but I think we're more likely to wait at WR. 

Makes it even more painful that we didn't grab a guy in the 2014 draft until Campanaro in the 7th.  So many good players.

[ravensdan]

Very surprising anyone is touting this group as any better than average. Wallace could be a good fit. He could compliment what Steve smith offers pretty well. If Perriman can contribute as a 3 that would be nice. If smith looks not ready to go you can add a white or colston in free agency. Tread well I'm not excited about at all. If you go skill player round 1 Elliott is the game changer. Round 2 I like Michael Thomas or Boyd as good players. Beyond that. Meh. I'd be more apt to reinforce the O line which is way closer to being a dominant group. But I see no way this wide receiver group ends up as above average but that doesn't prevent the team from winning. 

[PolishRifle]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

Makes it even more painful that we didn't grab a guy in the 2014 draft until Campanaro in the 7th.  So many good players.

Yeah, even the Jags got a franchise WR out of that draft. We're really bad with this position. So frustrating.

[MrDelDante]

I just don't think the FO see it as a major position of need, which is infuriating.

[usmccharles]

5 minutes ago, MrDelDante said:

I just don't think the FO see it as a major position of need, which is infuriating.

considering we are thinking of bringing in Wallace...I would say they seem to be addressing it

[Winchester]

10 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think this WR class is kind of garbage to be honest. I don't think we will take one until the 3rd day. It's just not that impressive to me. I think we'd take Boyd if he fell to us at the right spot, but I think we're more likely to wait at WR. 

I like Thomas and Robinson a lot. My opinion those 2 will be special as long as a work ethic is present. Robinson is a man possessed to be great and walk a straight line after his drama. It is a bad group but nonetheless gems are present if ravens know where to look. I'm not a fan at all of bringing in Wallace. Not interested in a 30 yr old one trick donkey. He may help the team but he is not going to be a difference maker in a race for a championship. He represents a team happy with 9-7 and a trip to the playoffs. I know Percy is an injury risk but he is taking a shot at a legit difference maker. Of course I consider anything less than a Superbowl trip an embarrassing failure of a season!! I like Boyd in the draft but Thomas and Robinson I like best at receiver.

[thieverycorporation]

I'd like Harvin as a better fit. But Camp has soured the stomachs of everyone here. Harvin maybe a early casualty in this division with the style of play each team exhibits. Well maybe not the Browns, lol. I also question the Wallace signing because that may signal the un willingness to draft one early round one/two. If Wallace still shows elite speed I would wait to pass my final vote. As that one trick he had with Pittsburgh was seemingly unstoppable by most. He'd thrive with Flacco and Trestman. 

I'd like to see us field any combo of the following:

Flacco/Mallet

Aiken, (Boyd/ Fuller/ Thomas/ Shepard/) SSsr, Perriman, Harvin (Late flyer on TBD)

Buck/Forsett/Prosise/Drake

Watson/Gilmore/Maxx/Boyle

Any good hands prospect suits me just fine.

Ultimate- Perriman,Fuller, Boyd, SSsr, Harvin

[PolishRifle]

3 hours ago, usmccharles said:

considering we are thinking of bringing in Wallace...I would say they seem to be addressing it

Would be nice to get Joe a star receiver in his prime, but unless BP turns out great, the chances for that are slim.

[usmccharles]

5 minutes ago, PolishRifle said:

Would be nice to get Joe a star receiver in his prime, but unless BP turns out great, the chances for that are slim.

We don't really need a "star" receiver, we just need role players in my opinion, like our SB team.  Torrey was a great deep threat but that's about it, not a elite WR.  Boldin was a great move the chains guy, but not elite WR, Jacoby was almost irrelevant as a WR, but he came up big a couple times, but he was an elite KR.  None of those WRs are an elite talent, but together they formed a great corps and helped us do what we did that year. 

If we went into next year with SSr, BP, Wallace, Aiken I would be more than satisfied. 

[PolishRifle]

3 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

We don't really need a "star" receiver, we just need role players in my opinion, like our SB team.  Torrey was a great deep threat but that's about it, not a elite WR.  Boldin was a great move the chains guy, but not elite WR, Jacoby was almost irrelevant as a WR, but he came up big a couple times, but he was an elite KR.  None of those WRs are an elite talent, but together they formed a great corps and helped us do what we did that year. 

If we went into next year with SSr, BP, Wallace, Aiken I would be more than satisfied. 

They formed a great corps once during one playoff run and then either disappeared back into irrelevancy or wanted way too much money than they were worth.

[Purple_City39]

What kind of frustrates me about the whole WR thing is converting Waller (a guy who's main positive skill is running deep routes) and converting him to TE even though he's never played the position, only to try and sign Wallace (a guy who's only positive skill is running deep routes).  

But yeah, the WRs need help.  Even if you sign Wallace, it still needs help

[GrimCoconut]

49 minutes ago, Purple_City39 said:

What kind of frustrates me about the whole WR thing is converting Waller (a guy who's main positive skill is running deep routes) and converting him to TE even though he's never played the position, only to try and sign Wallace (a guy who's only positive skill is running deep routes).  

But yeah, the WRs need help.  Even if you sign Wallace, it still needs help

There were rumors and talk about Waller potentially playing TE in the NFL coming out of GT because of his experience in run blocking and his speed and height combination potentially being a favorable matchup. I was mixed on the idea but it does have some logic. 

We lack a vertical, deep threat TE and Waller could very well be that guy. 

Edited March 15, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[Purple_City39]

4 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

There were rumors and talk about Waller potentially playing TE in the NFL coming out of GT because of his experience in run blocking and his speed and height combination potentially being a favorable matchup. I was mixed on the idea but it does have some logic. 

We lack a vertical, deep threat TE and Waller could very well be that guy. 

Yeah that's what Dickson was supposed to be.  The question is will he get a chance at TE since he really didn't get a chance to be the vertical deep threat WR in an injury filled offensive season with no vertical deep threat?  Considering it's a position he's never played, I can't see them pulling Gilmore, Williams, and Watson for Waller when they wouldn't pull any of the bum WRs last season for him.  I hope I'm very wrong though

[usmccharles]

2 hours ago, PolishRifle said:

They formed a great corps once during one playoff run and then either disappeared back into irrelevancy or wanted way too much money than they were worth.

Or traded away the best weapon.  But I don't want to be a team that ends up paying a wr more than 10 a year

[thieverycorporation]

Is there any decent tightens in this draft?

Which RB has the best hands in his draft?

What sleeper pick @ the wr position would you guys consider?

[Drew P]

Jeremy Butler caught everything thrown his way he snatches the ball out of the air.

The problem of not developing receivers is partly Flacco's fault to. He locks on to the vets and doesn't even look at the youngins.

[Alexir]

With the talent on the trenches and secondary in the top 10 picks, I would be upset if we got a WR in the first round.

[thieverycorporation]

17 minutes ago, Alexir said:

With the talent on the trenches and secondary in the top 10 picks, I would be upset if we got a WR in the first round.

I have to agree. 

[thieverycorporation]

39 minutes ago, Drew P said:

Jeremy Butler caught everything thrown his way he snatches the ball out of the air.

The problem of not developing receivers is partly Flacco's fault to. He locks on to the vets and doesn't even look at the youngins.

I have to agree as well with both statements. I think Flacco would have benefited greatly having Kubiack in his ear. It didn't come to pass so Trestman should listen to Flacco's assessment of what he learned and build upon it. One element of the progression should be to have him look @ windows to run through when the play breaks down. Cerebrally scanning the field is key. 

[Kid87]

1. STEVE

2. KAMAR

3. MIKE WALLACE

4. Perriman

5.camp

6. Butler 

B+

[January J]

Boom. Espn just broke the news- Wallace has agreed to terms with ravens. Waiting on contract details. We're makin moves baby