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[News] Eisenberg: Three Moves Ravens Need To Make For Joe Flacco's Sake

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Ozzie and Eric have a plan and will execute it to perfection. I trust in our front office to make sure our highly compensated QB is protected and has adequate weapons. The front office like the rest of us knows, that without very good protection, Flacco has a tendency to make erratic throws and make poor decisions and we won't recover from that this season.
So, I trust that we'll have the best protection for Flacco and the best weapons for him to throw to. We need receivers who have a great catch radius and those that come up with contested balls. That is what Matt Ryan has and he obviously looks a whole lot better than Flacco. Simply because Roddy White and Julio Jones catch every ball thrown their way, whether accurate or otherwise. Not so in Flacco's case and hopefully we correct that this year.

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No Eisenberg... I guess you havent been paying attention. The deepest part if the draft are OL and DL. So Ravens could as stated on RSR draft a guy like OG Westerman in round 4, or the guy I say and a couple mocks have them taking Le'Raven Clark LT/OT.. and they can be plug and play type players

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top priority in the draft just became Osemele's replacement or we can welcome back 2013 all over again. And how does Kamar Aiken not get put in with smith, forsett and co? he was the top receiver at the end of last season and pulled off clutch plays consistently. i'd rank him higher than perriman at this point. he's proven he deserves a shot at #2 at the least. perriman is #3 at best because he is unknown, inexperienced and as far as we know... injury prone.

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top priority in the draft just became Osemele's replacement or we can welcome back 2013 all over again. And how does Kamar Aiken not get put in with smith, forsett and co? he was the top receiver at the end of last season and pulled off clutch plays consistently. i'd rank him higher than perriman at this point. he's proven he deserves a shot at #2 at the least. perriman is #3 at best because he is unknown, inexperienced and as far as we know... injury prone.

kamar akien is probably going to be #3 and breshad is not injury prone just because of one injury

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No Eisenberg... I guess you havent been paying attention. The deepest part if the draft are OL and DL. So Ravens could as stated on RSR draft a guy like OG Westerman in round 4, or the guy I say and a couple mocks have them taking Le'Raven Clark LT/OT.. and they can be plug and play type players

I have the feeling, too, that Ozzie won't be after Stanley at #6.

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  46 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

No Eisenberg... I guess you havent been paying attention. The deepest part if the draft are OL and DL. So Ravens could as stated on RSR draft a guy like OG Westerman in round 4, or the guy I say and a couple mocks have them taking Le'Raven Clark LT/OT.. and they can be plug and play type players

I have the feeling, too, that Ozzie won't be after Stanley at #6.

Remember the typically draft best player available. Knowing they've just extended Flacco's career and Monroe unfortunately has been MIA if Stanley is the best available OL at #6 he will come off the board as previously mentioned he is the most ready to be plugged into an OL on day 1 compared to the other OL available. That said, who really knows what they're going to do. We always end up scratching our heads go, hmmm didn't see that one coming.

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Ozzie and Eric have a plan and will execute it to perfection. I trust in our front office to make sure our highly compensated QB is protected and has adequate weapons. The front office like the rest of us knows, that without very good protection, Flacco has a tendency to make erratic throws and make poor decisions and we won't recover from that this season.
So, I trust that we'll have the best protection for Flacco and the best weapons for him to throw to. We need receivers who have a great catch radius and those that come up with contested balls. That is what Matt Ryan has and he obviously looks a whole lot better than Flacco. Simply because Roddy White and Julio Jones catch every ball thrown their way, whether accurate or otherwise. Not so in Flacco's case and hopefully we correct that this year.

I will agree that Ozzie and Eric are definitely looking at our receiving corps and saying we've got to get better here because EVERYONE saw how much our offense struggled with a sub par receiving corps

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8 hours ago, nebraskafan03 said:

kamar akien is probably going to be #3 and breshad is not injury prone just because of one injury

no, but this isn't the 1st time this type of injury has shown itself in his football career.  it's known that every time you injure the same area, it becomes more prone to injury.  not only that, he went on IR for an injury anyone else would have been out for 2-3 weeks on.  He's a long term injury risk.  It would be foolish to bet any amount of bank on him.  Like i said, Aiken is a more reliable #2 at this point. perriman should be #3 until he proves he deserves the #2 spot

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  9 hours ago, nebraskafan03 said:

kamar akien is probably going to be #3 and breshad is not injury prone just because of one injury

no, but this isn't the 1st time this type of injury has shown itself in his football career.  it's known that every time you injure the same area, it becomes more prone to injury.  not only that, he went on IR for an injury anyone else would have been out for 2-3 weeks on.  He's a long term injury risk.  It would be foolish to bet any amount of bank on him.  Like i said, Aiken is a more reliable #2 at this point. perriman should be #3 until he proves he deserves the #2 spot

I have never heard of a sprained PCL causing a long term injury, and this actually is the first time this injury has shown itself in Perriman's football career. He only missed one game in college. Most of your post is not supported by facts. 2-3 weeks is not the normal projection for a grade II PCL sprain. It's more like 4-8 weeks, and Perriman was on pace for about that timetable, but he had a setback. It happens, but again, as far as I am aware, a PCL sprain has never caused chronic issues, so there is no reason to believe Perriman is a long term injury risk.

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10 hours ago, llxxGrimxxll said:

top priority in the draft just became Osemele's replacement or we can welcome back 2013 all over again. And how does Kamar Aiken not get put in with smith, forsett and co? he was the top receiver at the end of last season and pulled off clutch plays consistently. i'd rank him higher than perriman at this point. he's proven he deserves a shot at #2 at the least. perriman is #3 at best because he is unknown, inexperienced and as far as we know... injury prone.

The reason Eisenberg did not lump Kamar Aiken in with the rest of the surrounding weapons listed is because he was noting specific skill players as the supporting cast around Joe Flacco who are currently rehabbing injuries. Whereas the aforementioned Aiken is not coming off of any season-ending injuries, let alone the fact that he is not considered an injury prone player, seeing as he has remained consistently healthy and on the field. However, some seem to think Breshad Perriman might be so, as it is quite evident that there are often times many fans out there who tend to make assumptions amid their allusions to said possibility of proneness to injury. While that scenario may still be a question mark per se, in reference to Perriman, I for one believe that to be an erroneous, facetiously drawn conclusion. Granted, I also think if that is indeed the case, then it is merely due to how the whole situation was handled (mainly by the organization's strategic, tight-lipped choices) and how it all played out last season. What with the so-called "false" information initially reported, followed by Perriman physically re-tweaking his injury, while perhaps simultaneously rushing / being rushed back, and equally as vital, the proverbial prohibition of permission for Perriman to be able to publicly address the issue.

Albeit the latter part of that is understandable, as it is a given component of competitive advantage carried out by ALL NFL franchises, if not to an even greater extent by the likes of perennially top tier teams from the upper echelon of contenders. For instance, look no further than a little bit northward in Belichick & the Patriots, as they are renowned for practically setting precedent in that regard! All of us rabid--or rather, RAVENous fans--thirst for knowledge, in that we demand to be filled in / updated in real time and such, although I am glad Harbs & Co. typically choose to keep the "files" under wraps, even as it naturally creates its fair share of hysteria, for it is just like Eisenberg mentioned in this article, every Yin has its Yang, I s'pose. The optimistic folks such as myself could very well end up being extremely incorrect, but I sure do hope Perriman proves to be a key commodity in future success for our consistent contender known as the Baltimore Ravens, and in doing so, hopefully he shows himself to be the proper selection made for the long term, and most importantly, I'm sure we can all concur wholeheartedly with the notion that we're hopeful he makes a strong recovery / remains healthy throughout his career, and leaves behind the recent setback as a freak, one-time-occurrence, as well as an eventual, distant memory!

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On March 8, 2016 at 9:51 PM, ellicottraven said:

Ozzie and Eric have a plan and will execute it to perfection. I trust in our front office to make sure our highly compensated QB is protected and has adequate weapons. The front office like the rest of us knows, that without very good protection, Flacco has a tendency to make erratic throws and make poor decisions and we won't recover from that this season.
So, I trust that we'll have the best protection for Flacco and the best weapons for him to throw to. We need receivers who have a great catch radius and those that come up with contested balls. That is what Matt Ryan has and he obviously looks a whole lot better than Flacco. Simply because Roddy White and Julio Jones catch every ball thrown their way, whether accurate or otherwise. Not so in Flacco's case and hopefully we correct that this year.

I agree with most of what you say except comparing Ryan to Flacco. Comparing their skill set is like comparing apples to oranges. Ryan is a more accurate QB and is much better at reading defenses then going through progressions. (Someone is gonna shout and throw numbers instead of just watching film and comparing their footwork) Flacco has always been more durable and a much better improviser. He can buy time in the pocket and never fears getting hit. That is joes best attribute that never gets accounted for statistically. his deep ball is better than Ryan and I don't think that's even debateable. I can go all day on how different they are but I have to agree with you that any QB would look better with Jones White and Gonzales.

 

i appreciate that our FO realized joes strengths and made sure that Joe has a TE that he's comfortable with and 2 developing studs. I also appreciate that we have 2 elite burners and an array of WRs with upsides.

 

its defiantly time we sure up that Oline because if Yanda or zutta go down we are screwed. Unfortunately, linemen will go down. It's just the nature of the business and I believe that we need 2 more good guys. Remember, a team needs 8 good linemen to finish a season. Of those 8, 3 must be quality potential pro bowl guys. We currently have 6 good linemen if I'm being generous. Of those 6 only 2 are considered reliable.

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I love what the Ravens did in FA. Watson, Weddle, and Wallace. Perfect. OL isn't as big of a priority as defense. Don't want the Ravens taking Stanley with their first pick. They can pick up an OL in the 2nd or 3rd round. Even CB isn't that big of a need. Ravens need ILB badly and an OLB and DE. Most likely the Titans are taking Tunsil with their first pick. If the Browns take a QB, that leaves Bosa, Ramsey, Myles Jack, Buckner, and Hargreaves. I think Ramsey will be gone in the top five. That leaves Jack, Bosa, Buckner and Hargreaves with the next three picks. Some of the best players in last years draft were CB's. Marcus Peters won DROY. I'm fine with taking a CB that early. Hargreaves is a top ten pick. Ramsey's athleticism and football prowess are off the charts. But Hargreaves was excellent also. I think Buckner is a better fit than Bosa. Ravens might even be able to move back a few spaces and get another LB or DL or Hargreaves and obtain another 2nd or 3rd round pick. Darren Lee and Ragland come to mind. Daryl Smith is gone and this is a make or break year for both Elam and Arthur Brown. Weddle at FS. Webb at CB/FS. Elam at SS where he belongs. Upshaw is a question mark. And need Suggs replacement although Zadarius Smith should fill that role. Sua Cravens is an option in the 2nd round even though he's small for a LB can play safety. I'm hoping for Myles Jack to be playing next to Mosley.

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I don't see the Ravens taking Treadwell. Even though this is Smith Sr.'s last year, they have Aiken, Marlon Brown, Wallace, Perriman, Campanaro, Juice, Forsett, Buck Allen, Taliafero, West, Watson, Maxx, Gilmore(when he's healthy), and Boyle(after 10 game suspension). With nine picks, Ravens will probably take a WR or RB with one or two of them. They have four 4th round picks including an early and a late and early and late comp picks. If Treadwell is still on the board at #15, I think the Rams take him. Big physical receiver with good hands. Not a burner but a chain mover. Perfect fit to go with that defense, especially after taking Gurley last year. Sounds like a Jeff Fischer move to me. To go with whoever they have at QB, maybe drafting one of these guys in the 2nd round. Speaking of Gurley, he was probably the best player taken in the draft and should have gone earlier. With that being said, Elliott is another RB that has moved up the boards. There's talk of him getting picked at #4 by the Cowboys. Which leaves Ramsey, Bosa, Myles Jack, Buckner, and Hargreaves most likely with three of the picks. Ramsey won't make it past the Jaguars. That leaves the other four with two of the picks. And it's even possible for the Chargers to take Stanley off the board, but I don't see that happening.

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