Athletes who intrigue you

[Sizzlebshu]

We have all heard the saying before. "Don't put too much stock into the underwear olympics. It doesn't matter." The fact is this is wrong. If it didn't matter, there'd be no reason to have the Combine or use athletic testing. The NFL is still a league largely based on being bigger, faster, and stronger than other teams and athleticism does play a significant role. It may not be worth as much as game tape is, but it can definitely be used as a tie breaker and eliminator criteria. In this thread, post the prospects whose athletic potential intrigues you and you think Baltimore should take a chance on. 

Corey Coleman Baylor

Let me preface this by saying I want to see how Coleman runs, but his athleticism is incredibly apparent from him jumps 129 inch broad jump (10ft 9 inches), and 40.5 inch vert. The Ravens will never take him based on their prototype for the position, but as an athlete I don't see any way you pass on this guy in the 2nd if he drops due to height concerns. While he doesn't show the nuance in running deep routes like DeSean Jackson, he may athletically be on a different level. 

Braxton Miller The Ohio State

Not as athletic as Corey Coleman, but Braxton Miller checks all of the boxes of a #1 receiver. His 3-cone is a 6.65 which is shows up on tape in his athleticism. Being a former QB, Miller was easily able to pick up on route concepts and nuances of route concepts very quickly and is probably worth a top 50 pick. 

 

Devon Cajuste WR Stanford

This is a guy almost no one is talking about likely due to Christian McCaffrey. 6ft 4 and 234 lbs, Cajuste's 40 was unimpressive at 4.61, however, he has an absurd 3-cone time, not only for his size, but just in terms of freak athletics of 6.49. To give you a reference, that blows Odell Beckham's 6.68 out of the water. While he lacks explosion in his game tape, as confirmed by his jumps, he has the potential to be something special if he transitions to move tight end. This is especially true given the blocking he displayed in Stanford's run based system. His numbers blow guys like Jordan Reed, Aaron Hernandez etc... out of the water. He is definitely worth a look on day 3.

[thieverycorporation]

Interesting indeed. 

[ludy51]

Breshad Perriman.

I hear he's supposed to be pretty athletic

[Winchester]

Michael Thomas!! Really shifty route runner for a big guy. I believe he plays faster than his 4.55 40. Very smooth route runner. I know I will get thrashed for this but my opinion hecis best receiver in the draft. And if picked #6 overall he could eventually justify that in my opinion. His moves and stop start is reminiscent of a smaller receiver. I like him better than Devante Parker who went #14 overall I believe?? Cool take on Cajuste there!! 10-16 lbs of muscle with no loss in speed makeschim an interesting  TE for sure!! Will put him at nearly 250. Coleman is a great athlete but I would worry about him in traffic. He lets everything into his chest. Could he reach out in jump balls and in crowds over the middle?? I know he is a seperation guy but for a complete receiver I like a receiver that can win on ever level in every dimension. And he can do it all except not sure about his skill in contested throws long and over the middle. Demarcus Robinson is far faster than his 40time says. He is also willing to volunteer for weekly tests for Marijuana. He is going to be a mid\late round steal. I like Boyd so far although I only watched his highlights so far but I hear he is a somewhat stiff and not so sudden route runner?? Anybody know anything about that?? Maybe we can ask lost about that one. He is the sports science host when it comes to Boyd.

Edited March 12, 2016 by Winchester

[thieverycorporation]

4 hours ago, Winchester said:

Michael Thomas!! Really shifty route runner for a big guy. I believe he plays faster than his 4.55 40. Very smooth route runner. I know I will get thrashed for this but my opinion hecis best receiver in the draft. And if picked #6 overall he could eventually justify that in my opinion. His moves and stop start is reminiscent of a smaller receiver. I like him better than Devante Parker who went #14 overall I believe?? Cool take on Cajuste there!! 10-16 lbs of muscle with no loss in speed makeschim an interesting  TE for sure!! Will put him at nearly 250. Coleman is a great athlete but I would worry about him in traffic. He lets everything into his chest. Could he reach out in jump balls and in crowds over the middle?? I know he is a seperation guy but for a complete receiver I like a receiver that can win on ever level in every dimension. And he can do it all except not sure about his skill in contested throws long and over the middle. Demarcus Robinson is far faster than his 40time says. He is also willing to volunteer for weekly tests for Marijuana. He is going to be a mid\late round steal. I like Boyd so far although I only watched his highlights so far but I hear he is a somewhat stiff and not so sudden route runner?? Anybody know anything about that?? Maybe we can ask lost about that one. He is the sports science host when it comes to Boyd.

Going by whats been reported he's a route savvy technician that sets up his opponent to bite bail or overly commit to his initial or pro ported angles he'd run. To me that trumps pure speed as he'd be available and effective in any scheme. Boldinesk in his prime in being able to get open, catch contested passes, find soft spots and take it to the house, command a lot of attention and has shown his willingness to block. All keys to a success receiver. I do like speed but it can be overrated. I like what I saw of Fuller- speed, Doctson-size/body control, Shepard-all around game. Key highlights can be misleading but do offer the dream envisioned by fans and offensive coordinators to have ability/flex in and out of schemes. Base mode is slowly being fazed out in schemes and Boyd would be a nice peace to add. I toke the neg off yah as it didn't seem warranted nor addressed as to why. LOL somebody has the finger on the pulse of the negative response as being valid without a plausible rebuttal. If Thomas offers that count me in and I'll down.

Edited March 12, 2016 by thieverycorporation

[Winchester]

1 hour ago, thieverycorporation said:

Going by whats been reported he's a route savvy technician that sets up his opponent to bite bail or overly commit to his initial or pro ported angles he'd run. To me that trumps pure speed as he'd be available and effective in any scheme. Boldinesk in his prime in being able to get open, catch contested passes, find soft spots and take it to the house, command a lot of attention and has shown his willingness to block. All keys to a success receiver. I do like speed but it can be overrated. I like what I saw of Fuller- speed, Doctson-size/body control, Shepard-all around game. Key highlights can be misleading but do offer the dream envisioned by fans and offensive coordinators to have ability/flex in and out of schemes. Base mode is slowly being fazed out in schemes and Boyd would be a nice peace to add. I toke the neg off yah as it didn't seem warranted nor addressed as to why. LOL somebody has the finger on the pulse of the negative response as being valid without a plausible rebuttal. If Thomas offers that count me in and I'll down.

 

Allow me to elaborate.lol I did not say we should take him at 6. But if we did I believe he would validate the selection. You are absolutely correct his moves are advanced stuff for a college receiver. Very fluid and good playspeed which I will take over pure blazing track speed like Wallace. I said I did not want Wallace and got a trillion dislikes andvi get it. He is a cheap realistic option and everybody hopes he can replicate his 2010 season of om light years ago. And peeps do not want to hear he sux But if you think rationally would younfearvhim that much playing against him?? He was outplayed by a raw rookie and has had little impact since his 2010;season. Steelers knew what it was doing when management have the long contract to Brown. Part of the problem is Tannehill but Walace is a one trick pony now 30 yrs old. I'm with you preferring a consistent and multi skilled receiver over pure speed. And Thomas can run sharp savvy routes and attack the throw. As for where to draft Thomas the ravens can trade back into round1. Perriman can watch him and learn a lot from his moves and savvy to use his speed to run good savvy routes. Could you imagine ravens offense if Perriman and Campanaro play injury free with Thomas?? WOW!! That is a cool bunch of weapons. Perriman,Thomas,Campanaro,Max,Ben. If the young runner can step his game up that is a very formidable group of artillery fire. Then ravens just need to find a strong let tackle who can shut down speed rushers on the edge as well.

 

[thieverycorporation]

3 hours ago, Winchester said:

 

Allow me to elaborate.lol I did not say we should take him at 6. But if we did I believe he would validate the selection. You are absolutely correct his moves are advanced stuff for a college receiver. Very fluid and good playspeed which I will take over pure blazing track speed like Wallace. I said I did not want Wallace and got a trillion dislikes andvi get it. He is a cheap realistic option and everybody hopes he can replicate his 2010 season of om light years ago. And peeps do not want to hear he sux But if you think rationally would younfearvhim that much playing against him?? He was outplayed by a raw rookie and has had little impact since his 2010;season. Steelers knew what it was doing when management have the long contract to Brown. Part of the problem is Tannehill but Walace is a one trick pony now 30 yrs old. I'm with you preferring a consistent and multi skilled receiver over pure speed. And Thomas can run sharp savvy routes and attack the throw. As for where to draft Thomas the ravens can trade back into round1. Perriman can watch him and learn a lot from his moves and savvy to use his speed to run good savvy routes. Could you imagine ravens offense if Perriman and Campanaro play injury free with Thomas?? WOW!! That is a cool bunch of weapons. Perriman,Thomas,Campanaro,Max,Ben. If the young runner can step his game up that is a very formidable group of artillery fire. Then ravens just need to find a strong let tackle who can shut down speed rushers on the edge as well.

 

Who proposed using the number 6 pick? The rest I'll absorb.

[trevorsteadman]

On 3/11/2016 at 2:30 PM, thieverycorporation said:

Who proposed using the number 6 pick? The rest I'll absorb.

I think what he was trying to say is that he thinks Michael Thomas will be one of the better players in this draft and is worth the #6 pick. But we should not take him with the #6 pick of course because he has a higher chance of falling and could be a good target in round 2 or 3. He thinks he is a steal and is underrated in this draft process.

[Jacquouille]

Dadi Nicholas, if he was better at finishing play he would have double digit sacks. The potential and willingness to improve is there, he's a passionate guy, I'm really interested to see his developpment.

[KBoum]

1 hour ago, Jacquouille said:

Dadi Nicholas, if he was better at finishing play he would have double digit sacks. The potential and willingness to improve is there, he's a passionate guy, I'm really interested to see his developpment.

I really like him as well. But he would need a year or two to bulk up to play in the 3-4. Right now looks like he's a better fit in a blitzing 4-3 schemes. He's got great pass rush moves but would need to add at least 15-20 lbs to be an effective 3 downs player. Right out of the gate, he could be a very good 3rd and long passing situations blitzer who can move around quite a bit.

[Jacquouille]

Ah, also, as an athlete, Alex McAllister is a guy that I really want to see in the NFL. There are some red flags with him but as a pass rush specialist he's a beast.

[Winchester]

Coleman is an intriguing left tackle. Very powerful and athletic. He is far more coordinated than Greg Robinson but is getting negative hits cuz of playing on same team as Greg Robinson. The receiver Coleman. Is a freakish athlete. He will get drafted top15. He will be a great receiver as well.only knock I see on his game is he lets to many throws into his body and will not extend consistently as like to see. But for most part the dudevscreams dynamic consistent playmaking receiver.He like Thomas will make team lucky.