[News] 2016 Ravens Free Agency Rumor Mill

[eek]

just saw Kelvin Beachum, former steelers left tackle is drawing interest from ravens. He suffered an ACL injury last year and the Steelers were going to plan on keeping him if no one else showed interest and they could get him for virtually nothing. However, even if the Ravens don't sign him, hopefully they drive up the price the Steelers have to pay to hinder what they can do in free agency. Don't get me wrong, Beachum isn't going to break anybody's bank but he is more reliable than Monroe, is better than Hurst and is available. Grabbing him would allow us to release Monroe, not have to draft a left tackle in the first round (allowing us to concentrate on defense) and would get Flacco better protection than he had with Hurst in there.

I see browns might not resign Schwartz. he might be a good option

[billiejean]

I really hope that someone gives us a 2nd rounder for Kamar!

that would be nice but I can't see any team doing that

[Flamengo1265]

Mike Wallace? He sucked in Miami and in Minn. .... save that money for a left guard.

[Flamengo1265]

The Ravens need an inside LB, an outside LB and an O-lineman more than they need another mediocre wide receiver.

[bioLarzen]

Purely speculation, of course... but still: I hear Osweiler has reached agreement with the Texans. If he really signs there, the Broncos will suddenly be without a serivceable QB. Given their draft position, they're unlikely to land a plug-n-play QB in the draft without considerable sacrifices, and the QB free agent market is rather thin, to put it mildly. Mosstly these Cassell-, Schaub-, Clausen-, Weeden-type ones, hardly the kind you could trust an offense on. Although Kubiak showed that he can win a ring with a game managing QB (sorry, Peyton, but last season that was the truth...), somehow I don't think they would want to go trhrough it again, if they can help it. The only QB on the list I think could, in principle, be a legit starting QB is RGIII - I somehow don't think Fitzpatrick is one.

Why am I writing all this here? We have a backup QB who could be a valid starting QB - if the trade offer was fair enough...

[bioLarzen]

Mike Wallace? He sucked in Miami and in Minn. .... save that money for a left guard.

Of course he sucked, because his best asset - speed - couldn't be utilized as the QB's - Tannehill and Bridgewater - couldn't pass that long.

It's like saying a Ferrari sucks because it's useless off-road...

[bioLarzen]

  1 hour ago, steelcityraven said:

I really hope that someone gives us a 2nd rounder for Kamar!

that would be nice but I can't see any team doing that

Agree. I didn't even think he would receive a 2nd rounder, as I thought he would end up coming back with a lower-round tender...

[RayRave2]

Pac Man is old and sketchy. I'd welcome all the speed we can get at receiver, but the signing i most want to see is Kelvin Beachum. Not only would it hurt the Steelers but it would also give us a solid LT who's only 26 years old and it'd keep us from drafting an OT at 6 so we can focus on defensive playmakers and get our D back to terrorizing QB's.

[WNC-Raven]

Purely speculation, of course... but still: I hear Osweiler has reached agreement with the Texans. If he really signs there, the Broncos will suddenly be without a serivceable QB. Given their draft position, they're unlikely to land a plug-n-play QB in the draft without considerable sacrifices, and the QB free agent market is rather thin, to put it mildly. Mosstly these Cassell-, Schaub-, Clausen-, Weeden-type ones, hardly the kind you could trust an offense on. Although Kubiak showed that he can win a ring with a game managing QB (sorry, Peyton, but last season that was the truth...), somehow I don't think they would want to go trhrough it again, if they can help it. The only QB on the list I think could, in principle, be a legit starting QB is RGIII - I somehow don't think Fitzpatrick is one.

Why am I writing all this here? We have a backup QB who could be a valid starting QB - if the trade offer was fair enough...

I like where you are going. I think Mallet could fit Kubiaks system better than RGIII or even Kap if he gets released. We could keep Clausen as our backup because if Joe goes down does it really matter who the backup is? Do they have anyone that would fit a trade that does not involve draft picks?

[hn68wb4]

I'd be extremely happy if we can net Beachum, he's more dependable than Monroe and will allow us to let him go and get some cap savings. Never to Pacman, his attitude will cost us as many games as he'll help us win. I wouldn't mind Wallace if the price is right, i'm not giving him starter money, those years are gone.

[Cawtious]

On Tuesday, March 08, 2016 at 11:28 AM, raven4evr said:

When you consider all of the good players (and coaches) the Ravens have lost over the years, it is amazing that they have remained competitive for so long. Too bad money always wins out over loyality.

Loyalty runs both ways.  Teams cannot afford loyalty and neither can the players.  NFL means "Not For Long".  Injuries, constant player turnover, talent influx every year.  You have to get your payday when you can get it and take it.  Everybody in the NFL, players, coaches, owners........all understand this and have their big boy pants on.  They realize the reality of careers ending in a single play.

[Cawtious]

On Tuesday, March 08, 2016 at 10:01 AM, 757RavensFan said:

What happened to the offensive lineman we drafted last year nicknamed "Quadzilla" can't remember his name?

Myers was cut, went to Miami, I believe.......then he was cut again, came back to our PS and was picked up by the Broncos.  Gone.  Gone. Gone.

 

[Cawtious]

33 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Of course he sucked, because his best asset - speed - couldn't be utilized as the QB's - Tannehill and Bridgewater - couldn't pass that long.

It's like saying a Ferrari sucks because it's useless off-road...

Exactly.  He wasn't targeted enough.  Had 450 yards or so.....and only two touchdowns.  Not being utilized for his strengths.  We need a good deep threat to stretch the field.  Perriman healthy and signing this cat.......Joe has some options.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

I really fail to see how Wallace is all of sudden going to make this offense 'that much better'. The Ravens have enough smaller receivers, who are a bit more injury prone. Perriman is a the deep threat and offers speed Wallace just cannot match. Even SSR and Aiken can play the deep ball if needed, although they are best in the short-intermediate routes. The Ravens desperately need some 3rd down chain mover WR's, a.k.a. players that can shake and bake for 10yards reliably. Still believe Sterling Sheppard is the best receiver, fit and skill wise for the Ravens and he is much tougher/stronger than a lot of similarly sized WR/CB's. Most of the hyped WR's this year are deep threats that will need time to learn the rest of their route trees. You can't throw long all the time or you run the risk of pass rush getting home and turning the ball over. Look at Brady's stats last season and you'll notice the majority of his passes are the shorter 5-12 yr variety with a good mix of intermediate and deep balls. Why? Well besides lack of running attack, short passes are high completion percentage. Second 1st downs keep you on the field, helping your defense out. Third, short pass game helps out run game by forcing defense to stay honest, no pinning their ears back to giving it to your QB. If the Ravens offense is going to be formidable this season it will start with being able to consistently pick up first downs and staying on the field. Should really be aiming for a min of 3 first downs per possession minimum. Anything less than that and your exhausting your defense and placing extra pressure on them. Good offenses simply score and put up points. Great offenses score and put up points too, but also control the pace and tempo of the game. Time to shoot for Great not Good.

[harfordravenfan]

5 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

We have promptly lost the comp pick we would have gotten for KO by signing Ben Watson. We will get one back if Upshaw ends up elswhere (possibly with the Colts).

Loved ko and appreciated what upshaw did but without better pass rush skills, I hope the colts do grab him to lock up a decent comp pick. Although making our olb group thinner doesn't exactly thrill me. I'll leave that part to Ozzie to figure out lol

[harfordravenfan]

10 minutes ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

I really fail to see how Wallace is all of sudden going to make this offense 'that much better'. The Ravens have enough smaller receivers, who are a bit more injury prone. Perriman is a the deep threat and offers speed Wallace just cannot match. Even SSR and Aiken can play the deep ball if needed, although they are best in the short-intermediate routes. The Ravens desperately need some 3rd down chain mover WR's, a.k.a. players that can shake and bake for 10yards reliably. Still believe Sterling Sheppard is the best receiver, fit and skill wise for the Ravens and he is much tougher/stronger than a lot of similarly sized WR/CB's. Most of the hyped WR's this year are deep threats that will need time to learn the rest of their route trees. You can't throw long all the time or you run the risk of pass rush getting home and turning the ball over. Look at Brady's stats last season and you'll notice the majority of his passes are the shorter 5-12 yr variety with a good mix of intermediate and deep balls. Why? Well besides lack of running attack, short passes are high completion percentage. Second 1st downs keep you on the field, helping your defense out. Third, short pass game helps out run game by forcing defense to stay honest, no pinning their ears back to giving it to your QB. If the Ravens offense is going to be formidable this season it will start with being able to consistently pick up first downs and staying on the field. Should really be aiming for a min of 3 first downs per possession minimum. Anything less than that and your exhausting your defense and placing extra pressure on them. Good offenses simply score and put up points. Great offenses score and put up points too, but also control the pace and tempo of the game. Time to shoot for Great not Good.

"If" he can stay healthy, we have that with Camp

[verified]

  20 minutes ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

I really fail to see how Wallace is all of sudden going to make this offense 'that much better'. The Ravens have enough smaller receivers, who are a bit more injury prone. Perriman is a the deep threat and offers speed Wallace just cannot match. Even SSR and Aiken can play the deep ball if needed, although they are best in the short-intermediate routes. The Ravens desperately need some 3rd down chain mover WR's, a.k.a. players that can shake and bake for 10yards reliably. Still believe Sterling Sheppard is the best receiver, fit and skill wise for the Ravens and he is much tougher/stronger than a lot of similarly sized WR/CB's. Most of the hyped WR's this year are deep threats that will need time to learn the rest of their route trees. You can't throw long all the time or you run the risk of pass rush getting home and turning the ball over. Look at Brady's stats last season and you'll notice the majority of his passes are the shorter 5-12 yr variety with a good mix of intermediate and deep balls. Why? Well besides lack of running attack, short passes are high completion percentage. Second 1st downs keep you on the field, helping your defense out. Third, short pass game helps out run game by forcing defense to stay honest, no pinning their ears back to giving it to your QB. If the Ravens offense is going to be formidable this season it will start with being able to consistently pick up first downs and staying on the field. Should really be aiming for a min of 3 first downs per possession minimum. Anything less than that and your exhausting your defense and placing extra pressure on them. Good offenses simply score and put up points. Great offenses score and put up points too, but also control the pace and tempo of the game. Time to shoot for Great not Good.

"If" he can stay healthy, we have that with Camp

Thats our whole team

[bioLarzen]

Wonder what the new Browns management are doing though... First day into free agency they have already lost their best WR, starting FS, C and RT - and got nobody in return.They'll need huge signings to make it even, let alone make it a positive free agency..

Edited March 10, 2016 by bioLarzen

[bioLarzen]

  On 2016. 03. 08. at 6:01 PM, 757RavensFan said:

What happened to the offensive lineman we drafted last year nicknamed "Quadzilla" can't remember his name?

Myers was cut, went to Miami, I believe.......then he was cut again, came back to our PS and was picked up by the Broncos.  Gone.  Gone. Gone.

 

First he went to the Colts, not to Miami, then resigned to Baltimore, than the Broncos, as you said, took hm from our PS.

So, weirdly, he's already a Super Bowl champion...

[bioLarzen]

OK, at least the Pacman-romors are put to sleep. He's back in Cincinatti.

[harfordravenfan]

1 hour ago, verified said:

Thats our whole team

So true but makes it easy being an optimist rooting for this team. Until reality comes crashing down 

[J.O.14]

9 hours ago, bioLarzen said:

... or maybe we're just clearing much some cap space to have it if needed.

Your right....to sign someone.

[J.O.14]

I just want to point something out to the people that still bash Flacco's contract...

Brock Osweiler just got paid $72 MILLION dollars for 4 years. That's 18 million dollars a year for a guy that has played 7 games, and went 5-2 in those games.

Flacco has won more playoff games than Osweiler has regular season games. And people still think Flacco is overpaid.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Wallace is fast but if you don't utilize him correctly it will be a waste of money! Can't just hike the ball drop back and launch it gotta start incorporating more pump fakes into the repertoire that will free these guys up and more rollouts because the word is out Joe isn't gonna run and they will try and send the ends wide to get behind him and pointing fingers at the O line won't work gotta step our game up and beat the bungles and bills to get to that next level because the Ravens can't beat either squad!

[GENE2407]

I think this would be a good move. Wallace was a rising star in Pitt but chose the big money (and big headaches) of going to teams that have no offense and no QB. Needless to say his production dropped off the table. He's still young and would be a nice replacement for Torrey Smith's old job.

[GENE2407]

I just want to point something out to the people that still bash Flacco's contract...

Brock Osweiler just got paid $72 MILLION dollars for 4 years. That's 18 million dollars a year for a guy that has played 7 games, and went 5-2 in those games.

Flacco has won more playoff games than Osweiler has regular season games. And people still think Flacco is overpaid.

He won his money with the 2012 SB. After that, I'm ok with whatever they pay him.

[usmccharles]

26 minutes ago, GENE2407 said:

I think this would be a good move. Wallace was a rising star in Pitt but chose the big money (and big headaches) of going to teams that have no offense and no QB. Needless to say his production dropped off the table. He's still young and would be a nice replacement for Torrey Smith's old job.

2 years in Miami he put up 1800 yards and 15 TDs.  We have a better QB, better system, I think he would work here.  Only problem is would him and BP be too much alike

[SwissRavensFan]

What do you all think about bringing back boldin as a Receiver yeah he's getting old but he had such a good chemistry with Joe that I think he would also be a good Receiver especially on 3rd downs or Goal line situations.

[RavensDieHard21]

Save the money Ozzie! we don't need washed up players. If you're going to spend then please grab Sean Smith if he comes at the right price!

[J.O.14]

  11 hours ago, J.O.14 said:

I just want to point something out to the people that still bash Flacco's contract...

Brock Osweiler just got paid $72 MILLION dollars for 4 years. That's 18 million dollars a year for a guy that has played 7 games, and went 5-2 in those games.

Flacco has won more playoff games than Osweiler has regular season games. And people still think Flacco is overpaid.

He won his money with the 2012 SB. After that, I'm ok with whatever they pay him.

And so am I. That's just the going rate for Franchise QBs, and that is regardless to whether they have won anything or not. Flacco has at least earned his contract.