Osemele likely gone

[Sizzlebshu]

why is this here

[Jacquouille]

So how would you feel about this one?:

1)Buckner
2)TRADE with Washington: Spriggs (our 2nd, 4th and 6th and a 4th in 2017)
3)Brothers
4)Higgins
4)Schobert

[Jaybirds]

13 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

So how would you feel about this one?:

1)Buckner
2)TRADE with Washington: Spriggs (our 2nd, 4th and 6th and a 4th in 2017)
3)Brothers
4)Higgins
4)Schobert

Something like that could work.  I like those guys except Brothers.  It seems like he's backup Mosley instead of a cover MLB.   I feel like Higgins and Schobert could both go in the 3rd.  And four picks for Spriggs seems high.  And still no CB.   So I'll be unhappy immediately after the draft... and then probably very happy once games started.  That really would improve our team. 

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, Jaybirds said:

So what if we move Jensen into LG, and keep Monroe?  Does that buy us time to develop a left tackle that isn't Stanley?  Either someone on our roster already or a lower draft pick. 

We have three offensive linemen with three years' experience.  It seems like someone should be able to step up. 

I would love for us to keep Monroe at LT. The only problem is that we've made a bad situation worse with the comments Ozzie made during his presser. The only way to get Monroe motivated to play well and not feign injuries was to play up his ego, but we totally destroyed it. So, I'm not sure he'll be a good choice for us. However, if my interpretation is wrong and Monroe comes back wanting to prove last year was an anomaly and he was actually injured, then we are in a very good place.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, Jaybirds said:

Following through with this idea:  if the front office knew mid-season we were going to lose him, did they groom a replacement?  Are any of the young guys ready to step into LG?  Or even LG and LT if Monroe isn't starting for us? 

They knew the odds of keeping him were slim to none years ago when they gave yanda the deal. 

 

Jensen was a stud in his playing time and I'm sure they're confident he can step in and play. 

 

Also I'm wondering What my post would get 2 negs for... Its been speculated and I thought of it right away.. Letting a guard they KNOW is leaving, play at LT, has 2 results, he plays well and gets offered tackle money, or he disapponts and lowers his market value.

[Jaybirds]

Okay, so we're good at guard next year.  The issue is being stuck with Monroe at tackle now.  I appreciate the clarification from folks. 

[ngatainmyhouse]

Is Monroe's injury history really that big of a deal? It seems to me that he's hasn't missed too much other than last year. I know its scary with a LT that isn't 100% reliable but does that justify taking Stanley at No. 6? I feel like there's plenty of depth towards the end of the 1st early second that the Ravens could get more value out of tackle than taking Stanley at 6. If Monroe stays healthy than there's zero issue with LT. Meanwhile, the Ravens have multiple long-term issues on defense that could be addressed with our 1st pick

[Jaybirds]

4 minutes ago, ngatainmyhouse said:

Is Monroe's injury history really that big of a deal? It seems to me that he's hasn't missed too much other than last year. I know its scary with a LT that isn't 100% reliable but does that justify taking Stanley at No. 6? I feel like there's plenty of depth towards the end of the 1st early second that the Ravens could get more value out of tackle than taking Stanley at 6. If Monroe stays healthy than there's zero issue with LT. Meanwhile, the Ravens have multiple long-term issues on defense that could be addressed with our 1st pick

He is under 30.  But this is the third year in a row with fewer games played than the year before (16, 15, 11, 6).  So it's not a great trend.  It's hard to say he's a long term solution. 

Personally, I am losing site of which positions are our greatest needs.  Our secondary really seemed to have figured things out as the year progressed.  Meanwhile, Upshaw and Smith are gone at LB, the defensive line is a little thinner, and now OL is thin, too.  WR is sitll WR.  But it seems like we have many small leaks, but maybe not any really big ones. 

[Edgar]

59 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

So how would you feel about this one?:

1)Buckner
2)TRADE with Washington: Spriggs (our 2nd, 4th and 6th and a 4th in 2017)
3)Brothers
4)Higgins
4)Schobert

I think we are over reacting just a little. I know I am.

ozzie will find an upgrade at LT over Monroe and if Osemele was to be our tackle we would need a guard to step up in his vacating.

"worst" case scenario, we still have Monroe and we have some money to spend in free agency.

[ALPHA]

We could look at Brandon Brooks in FA, former tackle he's built like a tank and is probably the most powerful olineman in the league.

[Jacquouille]

9 minutes ago, Edgar said:

I think we are over reacting just a little. I know I am.

ozzie will find an upgrade at LT over Monroe and if Osemele was to be our tackle we would need a guard to step up in his vacating.

"worst" case scenario, we still have Monroe and we have some money to spend in free agency.

Yeah, you're probably right. I wouldn't be happy about the mock I just posted, I just hope we can get some consistency at T

[allblackraven]

3 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

We could look at Brandon Brooks in FA, former tackle he's built like a tank and is probably the most powerful olineman in the league.

What gives me hope is that he comes from Texans and they usually go to Baltimore. Then I remember how much money / cap space we have.

[ALPHA]

Osemele with the Raiders

[jazz1988]

1 hour ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I wish him the best of luck and he was great while he was here, but he just adds to the trend that professional sports players in this era all lack team loyalty and would rather get paid more money than win championships. I can't blame him because I'd bet his deal will be insane, probably 5 years, $60 million and that money could help him and his family tremendously. I am interested to know the Ravens offer now. Free agency always makes me appreciate true ravens such as Ray, Ed, JO, Suggs, Yanda, Flacco, etc... All players who love their team and winning, not just extra money..

 

Ray Lewis and the rest of the guys you mention got paid well and very well. I don't think any of those guys took less to stay with The Ravens. K.O been with The Ravens for  four years and has a super bowl ring I can't blame the man for chasing the money and besides The Raiders look like a team that's a strong solid of wining their division and maybe going to the playoffs.

[trevorsteadman]

I still think the Ravens do not choose Stanley with the #6 pick. If we were a team like the Chargers who pass more often than run the ball then sure you can hide some of his run blocking problems. Problem is we are not that team. I also don't understand why people think Stanley will be available to us he may go to the Chargers. Their O-line is horrendously bad with injuries killing them year in and year out. I am not afraid because Monroe is a good player when healthy. But like said above by ellicotraven is that the Ravens have been talking bad about Monroe. I wouldn't be surprised if he wants out. I hope they can find a good left tackle in free agency or with some of the earlier draft picks. I still think the Ravens go BPA with the 1st pick. I am not as worried about the guard position as I am with the tackle position. Jensen and Urschel both played well at guard. But we do need depth there now with Osemele gone and with Monroe's situation it will be interesting to see... Yanda cannot play all positions on the offensive line at once like I think all of us would like to happen. 

[ALPHA]

Yes BPA, if that's Stanley then so be it, but he's going to be one of those tackles who needs 3 years to learn how to run block.

[burnbigben]

3 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Raiders are building something nice up there....

The spent a season or so in cap hell while they were dumping all their bad contracts but now it seems to have paid off a few few great young pieces in place.

[burnbigben]

29 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Yes BPA, if that's Stanley then so be it, but he's going to be one of those tackles who needs 3 years to learn how to run block.

That seems to be the truth about almost every tackle taken early in the last few years.  I wouldn't be very happy if we picked a tackle with our 1st pick.

[trevorsteadman]

I think everyone is overreacting about Osemele leaving. In the games Osemele has missed the last two years Urschel and Jensen have both played extremely well. Monroe still has a question mark but if he can turn his injury history around that would be great. I wouldn't be surprised if we went into next season with who we got and just draft a 2nd or 3rd round LT to groom under Monroe. I just hope with what has been said in pressers and other media places that Monroe feels comfortable staying here. With what has been said I wouldn't be surprised if he wants out. 

[RaineV1]

Yeah, I don't see Ozzie changing up his draft picks based on KO leaving. Urschel will become the new starting guard and we'll be back to where we were at LT. I would love to nab Spriggs somehow, or Shon Coleman in the 2nd, but that would have been true even if we kept KO.

[edthehead]

KO , 60 mil, 

congrats go get your money

on a side note, I thought Mr. Al Davis passed away,,

what just sayinggggg lol,

[ngatainmyhouse]

I wish this thread was deleted so I wasn't reminded of KO leaving every time I check out the forum. I was a fan of KO until I saw that he previously mentioned he was going to be a FA at the beginning of last season. I'm actually glad he left because players in the recent Ravens history that've left for the money so live up to their new contracts.

[ALPHA]

1 hour ago, burnbigben said:

That seems to be the truth about almost every tackle taken early in the last few years.  I wouldn't be very happy if we picked a tackle with our 1st pick.

Jason Spriggs isn't far behind Stanley as a pass blocker, and the Hoosiers do a lot of run blocking from 3 point unlike Tunsil and Stanley so he's more well rounded with athletic upside. He just has to shoot his hands more and helmet less, I hope we're looking at him.

[Dewy101]

9 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Jason Spriggs isn't far behind Stanley as a pass blocker, and the Hoosiers do a lot of run blocking from 3 point unlike Tunsil and Stanley so he's more well rounded with athletic upside. He just has to shoot his hands more and helmet less, I hope we're looking at him.

I like Spriggs at guard honestly. He reminds me of a younger Evan Mathis. I think we take Spriggs in the second and have him play LG his rookie season. If Monroe gets hurt he can slide out to LT. 

[Cillmatic]

 

Does anyone else think Stanley's an average player?

[JoeyFlex5]

I need to vrush up on shon coleman. Good examples of film?

[Inqui]

53 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Yeah, I don't see Ozzie changing up his draft picks based on KO leaving. Urschel will become the new starting guard and we'll be back to where we were at LT. I would love to nab Spriggs somehow, or Shon Coleman in the 2nd, but that would have been true even if we kept KO.

Agreed. The knee-jerk reactions in this forum have been ridiculous all season long. We cut Daryl Smith (a probable cap cut as it were) and that means we're guaranteed to take Myles Jack. Shaq Lawson runs three laps around a cone and he goes from being the next Upshaw to the next Michael Strahan. Now we let KO walk (a possibility that I can guarantee the FO was aware of this whole time) and it means we have to draft Ronnie Stanley to make up for it. This doesn't change a thing as far as our big board is concerned.

Also, just because we draft Stanley at 6 doesn't mean the franchise would be doomed to decades of mediocrity. Sure we need a playmaker, but don't underestimate what a couple of extra seconds in the pocket can do for Joe. Saying Stanley isn't a playmaker is just falling for the hype of wanting a "sexy" pick and that's not the way to go. Fwiw he's at 5 or 6 on my board so there'll probably be someone better available at 6, but the doom and gloom at the thought of drafting him makes my head hurt. He's one of the best OT prospects in years, he'd be the best LT we've had since Ogden and should provide at worst a solid blind side option for the rest of Joe's career and probably the start of the career of the next QB we draft. Like I say there are others I'd prefer (and I think either Bosa or Ramsey will be there for us) but it's not like he'd be a bad pick like some people are making out.

Edited March 8, 2016 by Inqui

[ALPHA]

5 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I need to vrush up on shon coleman. Good examples of film?

He's strong but moves really poorly, similar style to Ifedi and Conklin but not nearly as good.

[rmw10]

21 minutes ago, Inqui said:

Agreed. The knee-jerk reactions in this forum have been ridiculous all season long. We cut Daryl Smith (a probable cap cut as it were) and that means we're guaranteed to take Myles Jack. Shaq Lawson runs three laps around a cone and he goes from being the next Upshaw to the next Michael Strahan. Now we let KO walk (a possibility that I can guarantee the FO was aware of this whole time) and it means we have to draft Ronnie Stanley to make up for it. This doesn't change a thing as far as our big board is concerned.

Also, just because we draft Stanley at 6 doesn't mean the franchise would be doomed to decades of mediocrity. Sure we need a playmaker, but don't underestimate what a couple of extra seconds in the pocket can do for Joe. Saying Stanley isn't a playmaker is just falling for the hype of wanting a "sexy" pick and that's not the way to go. Fwiw he's at 5 or 6 on my board so there'll probably be someone better available at 6, but the doom and gloom at the thought of drafting him makes my head hurt. He's one of the best OT prospects in years, he'd be the best LT we've had since Ogden and should provide at worst a solid blind side option for the rest of Joe's career and probably the start of the career of the next QB we draft. Like I say there are others I'd prefer (and I think either Bosa or Ramsey will be there for us) but it's not like he'd be a bad pick like some people are making out.

Hating on Stanley seems to be the cool thing right now for whatever reason.  You know my feelings on him.  Some struggles in the run game but his technique in the pass game is all world.

[GrimCoconut]

I really like Stanley and Conklin. I'm really big on Conklin with Castillo. I think Conklin is nasty enough to play LG and I certainly think he can play LT. In some ways Conklin reminds me of KO. I don't think he'll be in contention with our first pick, though, and I doubt he'll be there in the second but eh maybe. 

I like Spriggs but there's areas of his game that are really lacking. I somewhat even like Willie Beavers.