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1. Tennessee Titans - Laremy Tunsil - protect mariota, dont let him get beat on like last year, dont let this investment wash away via injuries, dont be the redskins. 

2. Cleveland Browns - Carson Wentz - i think wentz surpassed goff at the combine, i think hue wants either of the top 2 qbs to begin his tenure and build the qb-less franchise 

3. SD Chargers - Jalen Ramsey - they drain the clock here because their gut tells them bosa but the board says ramsey, ramsey ends up a brilliant replacement for weddle and spearheads the chargers resurgence. 

4. Dallas Cowboys - Joey Bosa - damn you jerry, damn you.. 

5. Jacksonville Jaguars - DeForest Buckner - perfect fit for gus bradleys unique front, their front seven would be near complete with this and then i expect them to pursue the secondary via FA 

6. Baltimore Ravens - Myles Jack - when eric says we have it narrowed down to 2 guys, i think he means that depending on a qb going ahead of us he has 2 realistic options barring a big time faller, myles jack will likely be one of those 2 guys, with the next guy being whoever falls out of buckner or bosa. our priority would be tunsil, ramsey, bosa, jack, buckner, hargreaves i believe, so if no qb goes then we take hargreaves gladly, but in this scenario we get a classic ozzie pick, a possibly generational talent falls through the cracks due to positional value, we would like a pass rusher or a db here, but myles jack may be the 2nd most talented player in the draft and we are able to disregard positional value here because his talent is too immense to pass up in this scenario.

7. SF 49ers - Ezekiel Elliott - Frank Gore was their entire offense for nearly a decade, they appear to really want to appease kaepernick and keep him around, kaepernick isnt exactly an appropriate chip qb contrary to popular belief, but the FO is calling the shots here. still wanting to work with chip they get him a true replacement for frank gore, a rb who never leaves the field and plays at a very high level in every possible facet for a RB. it comes down to stanley or zeke as a bpa vs. sexy pick, they get sexy here. 

8. Miami Dolphins - Vernon Hargreaves - i think its no secret that the dolphins are looking for a CB first and foremost, well its a perfect scenario for them as the top cb and one of the most pro ready corners ever falls to them at 8. 

9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ronnie Stanley - BPA at a positition of need, and a very important need for a team who recently invested in a franchise qb. they have an atrocious defense, but whats the point of drafting a franchise qb and getting loads of receivers and tight ends if your qb is on his back? passing up a day 1 LT who happens to be the BPA for a pass rusher here is a good way to further dig your team into a hole. 

10. New York Giants - Sheldon Rankins - they are such a bad team, but the spot next to cullen jenkins may be the best spot to address right here, rankins is flying up boards and its between him and shaq lawson, but since JPP apears to be in their long term plans, they figure they can address pass rusher later. 

11. Chicago Bears - Shaq Lawson - feels like an easy pick here, mcphee is their left side OLB and does a great job as their top edge rusher, but on the other end they need a complete package to really build a proper 3-4. shaq lawson is a stonewall in the run game and a refined and violent pass rusher, clear BPA. 

12. New Orleans Saints - Noah Spence - in the finesse pass first division known as the NFC south, you have to be able to stop the pass, the best way to do that against the divisions top team is to rush the passer against their slow tackles, you also want to frustrate the sluggish and stiff matt ryan and famous jameis, if the NFC south qb's dont have time to throw, theyll struggle to beat you. the fastest edge rusher in the class gets to pin his ears back in NO playing DE rather than OLB 

13. Philadelphia Eagles - Leonard Floyd - with the eagles foolishly thinking they have a qb, they take potentially the biggest splash pick here. Floyd brings great edge rush, great explosiveness, great instincts and smarts, length, range, motor, just an all around stud. they still need a qb and they have bigger needs elsewhere, but they certainly need help at the pass rush, and they get much more than a pass rusher, but a stud mover who can blitz all across the line and drop into coverage 

14. Oakland Raiders - William Jackson iii - they desperately need a cb after hayden failed every bit as ugly as elams 2nd season with us, this guy could become the best cb in the league, already a great press and cover guy and a stupidly freakish athlete, he will blanket his guy as a rookie and watch out if he learns to turn his head around consistently. 

15. LA Rams - Jared Goff - these folks are tickled pink that the hometown kid falls this far. the new era gets off to a good start in LA when Goff gets a hot hand with austin, add in gurley and they have the triplets of the league for the next few years. 

16. Detroit Lions - A'Shawn Robinson - the champ falls quite a bit due to a slow 40 time, but this guy is a born leader, and a natural ball player. top 10 talent and great character guy who  slides right into their 43 front that desperately lacks an interior presence. 

17. Atlanta Falcons - Laquon Treadwell - mid teens is where tread finds his value, the falcons need an edge rusher but they also need a WR and there is no edge rusher anywhere near this value. great find here. 

18. Indianapolis Colts - Kevin Dodd - they dont know what they need at this point, the colts are such a bad team with such a horribly managed roster that they could pick literally any player here except for a qb and they would find an upgrade, and they dont go BPA here at all, but they get a solid and versatile player, he can rush or set the edge and disrupt as an OLB, or he can play the 3tech and do anything they ask of him there as well, so they just get a versatile guy and hope he can do enough to justify the pick. 

19. Buffalo Bills - Reggie Ragland - Rex needs a mike backer, he finds his mike backer. Rex had a hell of a love affair with Bart Scott and here he gets an improved, brainier version of the rough and rugged bart scott. 

20. NY Jets - Shilique Calhoun - just feels like a good fit here, the jets will almost certainly address edge rusher here at all costs, calhoun isnt a horrible value, but they take the more NFL ready guy over vernon gholston 2.0 in ogbah. 

21. Washington Redskins - Corey Coleman - I wanna say Taylor Decker or Conklin here but i just feel like something goes sour with jackson and they want to give cousins another target with a splash pick. 

22. Houston Texans - Paxton Lynch - sweating bullets waiting for him to fall to them, and he does. easy choice here. 

23. Minnesota Vikings - Josh Doctson - they need a big play threat but a dependable one after the nightmare they experienced with no-handed burner mike wallace. they get a less explosive wr but a much more sure handed and physical one, also being a high character guy allows for a nice core on offense. they wait it out with clemmings and kalil for 1 more season before looking for a solution, maybe they rebound. 

24. Cincinnati Bengals - Andrew Billings  - classic AFC north pick, they need to reload on the DL because the long time foundation of their defense is aging and contract years are coming, and you simply cant win the north without a DL, great steal here, teens level prospect. 

25. Pittsburgh Steelers - Mackensie Alexander - BPA/need 

26. Seattle Seahawks - Taylor Decker - top need, solid value, not a safe pick by any means as he has concerns, and personally i think spriggs is the safer pick, but decker at the least will hold up in the run game better than spriggs which is the Hawks first order of business. 

27. Green Bay Packers - Darron Lee - run on OSU players, GB needs a linebacker and they also need a pass rusher, they take a guy who can potentially do both or potentially fail at both, with the NFC north being more speed and finesse ill go with the former and predict he does a pretty good job, could be a better player here but they get a solid guy. 

28. Kansas City Chiefs - Robert Nkemdiche - they took a shot at a high ceiling character risk in marcus peters and he worked out, nkemdiche fills a need and has top 5 potential but with red flags both on and off the field, there isnt much value elsewhere right here that would make them want to pass up this potential on a rather well rounded roster. 

29. Arizona Cardinals - Emmanuel Ogbah - ive soured on this guy big time, i dont think he will be a good NFL player, but he does have upside, i consider him the exterior version of shawn oakman in terms of on-field ability, the major difference here is willingness to learn and improve, and he fills their need at edge rusher. 

30. Carolina Panthers - Jason Spriggs - it makes me sad because i think if he makes it past carolina then he makes it to us, but he wont. after the super bowl it is obvious what they need to address and jason spriggs may be the 2nd best pass protecting LT in this draft after tunsil, hes a fair bit weaker than stanley but a supreme athlete with stellar footwork and technique, he protects the blindside for cam efficiently and gets them right back in the thick of it next year by fixing their biggest weakness. 

31. Denver Broncos - Jarran Reed - Malik Jackson leaves via FA and they make a lateral move here to replace him without skipping a beat, and the potential here is a bit superior to jackson. 

 

Ravens round 2: 

Jonathan Bullard 

here i was between Kendall Fuller, Jonathan Bullard, and Tyler Boyd. I have the titans taking eli apple in the 2nd, allowing fuller to fall to us. im not his biggest fan but i do like him, and you can bet hes on our radar for our 2nd pick.  tyler boyd is for obvious reasons, but for bullard, he makes a great candidate to replace upshaw who was a very similar player coming in, he is a late first prospect who could fall because of his tweener size and weak 40 time, but its a perfect fit for us, has a great first step but average overall explosion, but thats ok because his hand fighting and bullrush is superb and his pass rushing is very reminiscent of dumervil from a 3 point stance, at 285lbs and 6'3" he is only a bit heavier than the ravens prototype olb and he is just a naturally disruptive player, i think he could be a very good OLb for us with some work. In short, I think Bullard could be the edge rusher we wanted Upshaw to be 

 

Round 3: 

Germain Ifedi 

If he cuts out the holding then he is simply a NFL starter. Great project for Castillo to coach up and turn into a fixture.

 

Round 4: 

Joe Schobert 

ive given my opinion on this guy so many times that i wont even reiterate it, has raven written all over him 

Charles Tapper 

hometown kid, physical specimen, built for the scheme. ZDS last year was more of a pure DE and a run stopping type of guy but he appears to have been better than expected as a rushOLB, charles tapper is the opposite and appears to be a natural pass rusher, showing loads of untapped potential as a pass rusher, has an excellent build, great reach and at 6'3" has the height we like and shows good leverage to go with it, great first step and explosiveness and impressive brute strength to go with it. has the power to bullrush NFL tackles, but doesnt offer any kind of repertoire of moves and appears to spend a bit too much time in the weightroom, proper nfl weight management and coaching could have this guy producing 8 sacks by his 3rd year, a mcphee like progression from this guy would be no surprise to me. 

Kevin Peterson 

good cover guy with a low ceiling and small frame. plays with swagger, locates the ball well, mirrors like a first rounder and plays with smart aggression. lacks top end speed and reach and will get beaten in the redzone, however he can generate some clutch breakups on quick strike passes as long as he isnt facing aj green or mike evans, and in limited snaps he could be a well liked player similar to a corey graham. 

 

late round flyers/udfa's: 

Ron Thompson, DE, Syracuse 

Curt Maggitt, OLB, Tennessee 

Jaydon Mickens, WR, Washington 

Laquan Mcgowan, G, Baylor(lololol)

Caleb Benenoch, OT, UCLA 

 

WRAP-UP first 4 rounds

Myles Jack 

Kendall Fuller 

Rashard Higgins 

Joe Schobert 

Charles Tapper 

Kevin Peterson

 

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If Apple is still around in the 2nd, then I hope we trade up for him. Though Fuller and Perriman could really gives us a great WR combo, and help our running game.

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39 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

If Apple is still around in the 2nd, then I hope we trade up for him. Though Fuller and Perriman could really gives us a great WR combo, and help our running game.

KENDALL fuller. Lol. 

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I went back and edited. I changed my 2nd to Bullard and 3rd to ifedi. That was my 2nd plan but after thinking it over I decided I like it better. The More I watch bullard the More I like him. He is just disruptive and can play OLB or DE for us. Starter at OLB and on pass rushing downs we have suggs, bullard, davis, jernigan, dumervil, as the 34 rush package, it would be special

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33 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

KENDALL fuller. Lol. 

Oh, right. I just spotted Fuller and thought you meant the WR.

In terms of setting the edge and pass rushing I think Bullard would be better than Upshaw, but I'm not sure if he's capable of playing a 3-4 OLB. But he definitely could play a 3-4 DE.

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Great job JoeyFlex5 nice mock draft. I have a bit of concern of Noah Spence going in the 1st round tho I think it wass Charles Davis who said his combine intervews were very shaky and not a lot of coaches/GM went to his pro day. If the Ravens get Jack at #6... great pick I'll be very happy. I'd also LOVE Apple in the 2nd but I think he's going in the 1st.

 

Good job fun read

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To be honest, I don't think the Ravens do disregard positional value on such a high pick. Honestly, I think they'll go with one of their outlined positions of need (LT, DE/OLB, CB). 

Picking at six affords the Ravens to land a premiere talent at a position of need. They must get this pick right and passing on a play maker at a position of need for a prospect you could argue the Ravens do not need is not how you get back from 5-11. Inside linebacker was not the reason the Ravens went 5-11.

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This is a good mock draft, it gives much needed help to our defense. Benenoch and Maggitt would be great UDFAs. Benenoch has a mean streak and Maggitt is a tackling machine if healthy.

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Joey - you present the worst top-5 selection I can imagine - but unfortunately, it is also the most likely. I was praying that Bosa would fall to us after some of the negativity swirling around him after the combine, but I think the chances are low that Dallas goes for the QB of the future here and simply cannot pass on Bosa. 

If it breaks that way - I think it is between Jack and VH3, but I'm assuming we'll go VH3. With Jimmy locked in on one side and with Webb likely moving to S, that other corner slot is open and needs a guy who can be a day 1 starter and who can hold that position down for many years to come. VH3 seems like a guy who fits that bill. 

 

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Early on, it seemed the most polarizing pick among fans was Ramsey. I even recall a thread (that you actually started, Joey) with that title. Now that Ramsey has become a pick that virtually no one sees as falling to us at #6, that role has been replaced by Jack. 

Lots of people are sky-high on him and many others are very reluctant. I don't fancy myself a talent scout - so I'm more inclined to sit back and listen than to spout off an opinion. It is easy to see both sides of this argument. On one hand, the guy does seem to be a freakish physical talent who brings a versatile skill set. On the other, that same versatility is a concern because it is hard to see where he would fit into our defense. Supporters can say his injury isn't a concern, but that is hard to say to a fan base that watched in frustration as their team's 1st round pick from 2015 provided zero contribution in his rookie year. 

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I like the mock, but there's a few things I'm not too sure about, the 49ers were shopping Kap so I think if Goff was there they'd take him. Also you have William Jackson taking a huge jump, I could see him in the first now but not sure about top 15 yet, even though I think he could be one of the best in the class.

 

and i have to say I'm not a fan of Bullard, he has a great first step and decent bull rush, but from what I saw he has no pass rush moves what so ever, i don't see the point of drafting someone in the second round who could be like Upshaw when we could resign him for cheap. I like pretty much every other player you mocked though.

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3 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

To be honeshop, odon't think the Ravens do di sre gard posiso al value on such a high picourshoeestly, I think they'll go w ith  one of their outlined positions of need (LT, DE/OLB, CB). 

Picking at six affords the Ravens to land a premiere talent at a position of need. They must get this pick right and passing on a play maker at a position of need for a prospect you could argue the Ravens do not need is not how you get back from 5-11. Inside linebacker was not the reason the Ravens went 5-11.

Not entirely but our linebackers getting burnt in coverage cost us alot of points..and With so many of our games being decided by a td Or less id Very much say it cost us a few games. After that the lack of pass rush made things harder on our corners, then Our receivers struggled getting open in the redzone. So those 3 positions are priority to me, although our defense as a Whole could use  more Speed and much more discipline- something i Hope leslie Frazier instills.

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7 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

Oh, right. I just spotted Fuller and thought you meant the WR.

In terms of setting the edge and pass rushing I think Bullard would be better than Upshaw, but I'm not sure if he's capable of playing a 3-4 OLB. But he definitely could play a 3-4 DE.

Not a real olb but He would definitely not need to come off the field because he would be too valuable. He's a lot like a poor man's bosa, can play DE or just play the edge in general at a high level. 

 

Losing 10 lbs could give him real [profanity deleted] at part time OLB for us though I think. I love his first step and disruptiveness, that part of the game just comes natural for him

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Obviously I like the first pick and would be happy with the rest for sure.   You hit on three important positions right away and it could make a massive impact on day 1.  

I dot think 49ers would take elliot,  Carlos Hyde should be a good rb and they have  lot of holes.  But they are the 49ers

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1 hour ago, balfan23 said:

Joey - you present the worst top-5 selection I can imagine - but unfortunately, it is also the most likely. I was praying that Bosa would fall to us after some of the negativity swirling around him after the combine, but I think the chances are low that Dallas goes for the QB of the future here and simply cannot pass on Bosa. 

If it breaks that way - I think it is between Jack and VH3, but I'm assuming we'll go VH3. With Jimmy locked in on one side and with Webb likely moving to S, that other corner slot is open and needs a guy who can be a day 1 starter and who can hold that position down for many years to come. VH3 seems like a guy who fits that bill. 

 

I shared the same concern but at this point ILB is a real need. and ilb may lot have killed us last year alone but coverage and general lack of speed and range and instincts did. You constantly saw guys getting there 1 step late or being in the wrong place, Jack does a lot to solve that. Jack isn't just some LB who covers well, he is tyrann Mathieu in a true linebackers body, he can [profanity deleted] down a slot wr or a te for the entire game and allow our dbs to stack and roll coverages accordingly. With Myles Jack you can essentially forget He's there... Until he bats a pass or forces a turnover lol. 

 

Basically, I love vh3, and if we passed on Jack for him I wouldn't be mad one bit, but the ravens aren't passing on a rare talent the likes of which we have never seen, for a bigger need. In terms of the "tier" of player, Jack is top tier, vh3 is 2nd tier

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1 hour ago, January J said:

Not entirely but our linebackers getting burnt in coverage cost us alot of points..and With so many of our games being decided by a td Or less id Very much say it cost us a few games. After that the lack of pass rush made things harder on our corners, then Our receivers struggled getting open in the redzone. So those 3 positions are priority to me, although our defense as a Whole could use  more Speed and much more discipline- something i Hope leslie Frazier instills.

It happened against the Browns with Barnidge and Johnson, but past that, it was not a huge issue, or not nearly as big a one as fans make it seem. It did not cost a single game, that is to say, it wasn't the biggest reason.

Corner, pass rush, and left tackle are all far more pressing needs

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I understand Myles Jack is an insanely talented kid; he would fit great in our defense, too. Is taking a MLB in a 3-4 defense at number 6 too high? Arthur Brown could be a poor mans Myles Jack if he figures his [profanity deleted] out! If you watch his college tape, he looks freakishly athletic. 

 

But hell, I'll take Mosely and Jack any day. Playing the Tampa 2 would be the perfect scheme 

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1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

It happened against the Browns with Barnidge and Johnson, but past that, it was not a huge issue, or not nearly as big a one as fans make it seem. It did not cost a single game, that is to say, it wasn't the biggest reason.

Corner, pass rush, and left tackle are all far more pressing needs

Taking the most pressing need at all costs has just never been our style. Vh3 and Stanley just aren't on the same tier as Jack. You're talking about passing up on possibly a once in a lifetime player for a good starter. 

 

 

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Has anyone mentioned that the Mosley-Jack duo would be the best since Patrick Willis-Navorro Bowman, and the best in Ravens history? And that's only if you count Jack as just an ILB.

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1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Taking the most pressing need at all costs has just never been our style. Vh3 and Stanley just aren't on the same tier as Jack. You're talking about passing up on possibly a once in a lifetime player for a good starter. 

That's actually very debatable because it's not simply "best player available." It should be expanded out to "best player available AT A POSITION OF NEED." That's far more accurate and a lot closer to what the Ravens actually do on draft day. Is inside linebacker a position of need? Eh, very debatable, especially if the Ravens bring Daryl Smith back. Remembe, the Ravens highlighted LT, OLB/DE, and CB as their positions of need. It's very likely they will take the best player available at one of those particular positions of need.

Yeah, once in a lifetime... I thought this guy named Luke Kuechly came out in 2012, but I could be wrong.

VH3 is an extremely high floor player; a good starter would be his floor. His ceiling, which is extremely high, is an All-Pro. Plus, snagging a corner is of far higher priority and importance to the defense than grabbing an inside linebacker (and by the way, I didn't see a single inside linebacker drafted in the top 10 in the last 10+ years because they don't have value). 

Same with Stanley. LT is widely regarded as the second most position on the entire offense and one of the most important positions on the entire team. If you're building a team and you had a chance to have the best at any three positions, I'd imagine one of those three would be a left tackle, not an inside linebacker. Stanley is one of the most polished pass blockers to come out of college in a very long time and if he can bulk up, add to his lower body strength, and reach his potential, you're talking about the best left tackle in the league in a few years. He's got a higher ceiling than Tunsil if he ever reaches it.

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16 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

1. Tennessee Titans - Laremy Tunsil - protect mariota, dont let him get beat on like last year, dont let this investment wash away via injuries, dont be the redskins. 

2. Cleveland Browns - Carson Wentz - i think wentz surpassed goff at the combine, i think hue wants either of the top 2 qbs to begin his tenure and build the qb-less franchise 

3. SD Chargers - Jalen Ramsey - they drain the clock here because their gut tells them bosa but the board says ramsey, ramsey ends up a brilliant replacement for weddle and spearheads the chargers resurgence. 

4. Dallas Cowboys - Joey Bosa - damn you jerry, damn you.. 

5. Jacksonville Jaguars - DeForest Buckner - perfect fit for gus bradleys unique front, their front seven would be near complete with this and then i expect them to pursue the secondary via FA 

6. Baltimore Ravens - Myles Jack - when eric says we have it narrowed down to 2 guys, i think he means that depending on a qb going ahead of us he has 2 realistic options barring a big time faller, myles jack will likely be one of those 2 guys, with the next guy being whoever falls out of buckner or bosa. our priority would be tunsil, ramsey, bosa, jack, buckner, hargreaves i believe, so if no qb goes then we take hargreaves gladly, but in this scenario we get a classic ozzie pick, a possibly generational talent falls through the cracks due to positional value, we would like a pass rusher or a db here, but myles jack may be the 2nd most talented player in the draft and we are able to disregard positional value here because his talent is too immense to pass up in this scenario.

7. SF 49ers - Ezekiel Elliott - Frank Gore was their entire offense for nearly a decade, they appear to really want to appease kaepernick and keep him around, kaepernick isnt exactly an appropriate chip qb contrary to popular belief, but the FO is calling the shots here. still wanting to work with chip they get him a true replacement for frank gore, a rb who never leaves the field and plays at a very high level in every possible facet for a RB. it comes down to stanley or zeke as a bpa vs. sexy pick, they get sexy here. 

8. Miami Dolphins - Vernon Hargreaves - i think its no secret that the dolphins are looking for a CB first and foremost, well its a perfect scenario for them as the top cb and one of the most pro ready corners ever falls to them at 8. 

9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ronnie Stanley - BPA at a positition of need, and a very important need for a team who recently invested in a franchise qb. they have an atrocious defense, but whats the point of drafting a franchise qb and getting loads of receivers and tight ends if your qb is on his back? passing up a day 1 LT who happens to be the BPA for a pass rusher here is a good way to further dig your team into a hole. 

10. New York Giants - Sheldon Rankins - they are such a bad team, but the spot next to cullen jenkins may be the best spot to address right here, rankins is flying up boards and its between him and shaq lawson, but since JPP apears to be in their long term plans, they figure they can address pass rusher later. 

11. Chicago Bears - Shaq Lawson - feels like an easy pick here, mcphee is their left side OLB and does a great job as their top edge rusher, but on the other end they need a complete package to really build a proper 3-4. shaq lawson is a stonewall in the run game and a refined and violent pass rusher, clear BPA. 

12. New Orleans Saints - Noah Spence - in the finesse pass first division known as the NFC south, you have to be able to stop the pass, the best way to do that against the divisions top team is to rush the passer against their slow tackles, you also want to frustrate the sluggish and stiff matt ryan and famous jameis, if the NFC south qb's dont have time to throw, theyll struggle to beat you. the fastest edge rusher in the class gets to pin his ears back in NO playing DE rather than OLB 

13. Philadelphia Eagles - Leonard Floyd - with the eagles foolishly thinking they have a qb, they take potentially the biggest splash pick here. Floyd brings great edge rush, great explosiveness, great instincts and smarts, length, range, motor, just an all around stud. they still need a qb and they have bigger needs elsewhere, but they certainly need help at the pass rush, and they get much more than a pass rusher, but a stud mover who can blitz all across the line and drop into coverage 

14. Oakland Raiders - William Jackson iii - they desperately need a cb after hayden failed every bit as ugly as elams 2nd season with us, this guy could become the best cb in the league, already a great press and cover guy and a stupidly freakish athlete, he will blanket his guy as a rookie and watch out if he learns to turn his head around consistently. 

15. LA Rams - Jared Goff - these folks are tickled pink that the hometown kid falls this far. the new era gets off to a good start in LA when Goff gets a hot hand with austin, add in gurley and they have the triplets of the league for the next few years. 

16. Detroit Lions - A'Shawn Robinson - the champ falls quite a bit due to a slow 40 time, but this guy is a born leader, and a natural ball player. top 10 talent and great character guy who  slides right into their 43 front that desperately lacks an interior presence. 

17. Atlanta Falcons - Laquon Treadwell - mid teens is where tread finds his value, the falcons need an edge rusher but they also need a WR and there is no edge rusher anywhere near this value. great find here. 

18. Indianapolis Colts - Kevin Dodd - they dont know what they need at this point, the colts are such a bad team with such a horribly managed roster that they could pick literally any player here except for a qb and they would find an upgrade, and they dont go BPA here at all, but they get a solid and versatile player, he can rush or set the edge and disrupt as an OLB, or he can play the 3tech and do anything they ask of him there as well, so they just get a versatile guy and hope he can do enough to justify the pick. 

19. Buffalo Bills - Reggie Ragland - Rex needs a mike backer, he finds his mike backer. Rex had a hell of a love affair with Bart Scott and here he gets an improved, brainier version of the rough and rugged bart scott. 

20. NY Jets - Shilique Calhoun - just feels like a good fit here, the jets will almost certainly address edge rusher here at all costs, calhoun isnt a horrible value, but they take the more NFL ready guy over vernon gholston 2.0 in ogbah. 

21. Washington Redskins - Corey Coleman - I wanna say Taylor Decker or Conklin here but i just feel like something goes sour with jackson and they want to give cousins another target with a splash pick. 

22. Houston Texans - Paxton Lynch - sweating bullets waiting for him to fall to them, and he does. easy choice here. 

23. Minnesota Vikings - Josh Doctson - they need a big play threat but a dependable one after the nightmare they experienced with no-handed burner mike wallace. they get a less explosive wr but a much more sure handed and physical one, also being a high character guy allows for a nice core on offense. they wait it out with clemmings and kalil for 1 more season before looking for a solution, maybe they rebound. 

24. Cincinnati Bengals - Andrew Billings  - classic AFC north pick, they need to reload on the DL because the long time foundation of their defense is aging and contract years are coming, and you simply cant win the north without a DL, great steal here, teens level prospect. 

25. Pittsburgh Steelers - Mackensie Alexander - BPA/need 

26. Seattle Seahawks - Taylor Decker - top need, solid value, not a safe pick by any means as he has concerns, and personally i think spriggs is the safer pick, but decker at the least will hold up in the run game better than spriggs which is the Hawks first order of business. 

27. Green Bay Packers - Darron Lee - run on OSU players, GB needs a linebacker and they also need a pass rusher, they take a guy who can potentially do both or potentially fail at both, with the NFC north being more speed and finesse ill go with the former and predict he does a pretty good job, could be a better player here but they get a solid guy. 

28. Kansas City Chiefs - Robert Nkemdiche - they took a shot at a high ceiling character risk in marcus peters and he worked out, nkemdiche fills a need and has top 5 potential but with red flags both on and off the field, there isnt much value elsewhere right here that would make them want to pass up this potential on a rather well rounded roster. 

29. Arizona Cardinals - Emmanuel Ogbah - ive soured on this guy big time, i dont think he will be a good NFL player, but he does have upside, i consider him the exterior version of shawn oakman in terms of on-field ability, the major difference here is willingness to learn and improve, and he fills their need at edge rusher. 

30. Carolina Panthers - Jason Spriggs - it makes me sad because i think if he makes it past carolina then he makes it to us, but he wont. after the super bowl it is obvious what they need to address and jason spriggs may be the 2nd best pass protecting LT in this draft after tunsil, hes a fair bit weaker than stanley but a supreme athlete with stellar footwork and technique, he protects the blindside for cam efficiently and gets them right back in the thick of it next year by fixing their biggest weakness. 

31. Denver Broncos - Jarran Reed - Malik Jackson leaves via FA and they make a lateral move here to replace him without skipping a beat, and the potential here is a bit superior to jackson. 

 

Ravens round 2: 

Jonathan Bullard 

here i was between Kendall Fuller, Jonathan Bullard, and Tyler Boyd. I have the titans taking eli apple in the 2nd, allowing fuller to fall to us. im not his biggest fan but i do like him, and you can bet hes on our radar for our 2nd pick.  tyler boyd is for obvious reasons, but for bullard, he makes a great candidate to replace upshaw who was a very similar player coming in, he is a late first prospect who could fall because of his tweener size and weak 40 time, but its a perfect fit for us, has a great first step but average overall explosion, but thats ok because his hand fighting and bullrush is superb and his pass rushing is very reminiscent of dumervil from a 3 point stance, at 285lbs and 6'3" he is only a bit heavier than the ravens prototype olb and he is just a naturally disruptive player, i think he could be a very good OLb for us with some work. In short, I think Bullard could be the edge rusher we wanted Upshaw to be 

 

Round 3: 

Germain Ifedi 

If he cuts out the holding then he is simply a NFL starter. Great project for Castillo to coach up and turn into a fixture.

 

Round 4: 

Joe Schobert 

ive given my opinion on this guy so many times that i wont even reiterate it, has raven written all over him 

Charles Tapper 

hometown kid, physical specimen, built for the scheme. ZDS last year was more of a pure DE and a run stopping type of guy but he appears to have been better than expected as a rushOLB, charles tapper is the opposite and appears to be a natural pass rusher, showing loads of untapped potential as a pass rusher, has an excellent build, great reach and at 6'3" has the height we like and shows good leverage to go with it, great first step and explosiveness and impressive brute strength to go with it. has the power to bullrush NFL tackles, but doesnt offer any kind of repertoire of moves and appears to spend a bit too much time in the weightroom, proper nfl weight management and coaching could have this guy producing 8 sacks by his 3rd year, a mcphee like progression from this guy would be no surprise to me. 

Kevin Peterson 

good cover guy with a low ceiling and small frame. plays with swagger, locates the ball well, mirrors like a first rounder and plays with smart aggression. lacks top end speed and reach and will get beaten in the redzone, however he can generate some clutch breakups on quick strike passes as long as he isnt facing aj green or mike evans, and in limited snaps he could be a well liked player similar to a corey graham. 

 

late round flyers/udfa's: 

Ron Thompson, DE, Syracuse 

Curt Maggitt, OLB, Tennessee 

Jaydon Mickens, WR, Washington 

Laquan Mcgowan, G, Baylor(lololol)

Caleb Benenoch, OT, UCLA 

 

WRAP-UP first 4 rounds

Myles Jack 

Kendall Fuller 

Rashard Higgins 

Joe Schobert 

Charles Tapper 

Kevin Peterson

 

DeForest Buckner to the Jaguars is a questionable fit. He isn't an extremely quick guy (he's good but not lightning quick like Seattle EDGEs are typically) and doesn't really fit the mold of a 43 DT at either spot. Look at the Seattle model. The EDGEs are usually lighter players (take cliff avril for example) that have speed to win. Buckner doesn't really fit that description. I really think that he is mainly a 34 DE. 

Then we have Ezekiel Elliot to the 49ers. Baalke is all about value and no matter how good a RB is, they are almost never value in round 1. Furthermore, I kinda think you neglected that they recently invested a high pick (2nd round) in Carlos Hyde who showed well last year. Finally, Chip Kelly likes to use a rotation of RB in his system. Ezekiel Elliot's value in his ability to stay on the field all 3 downs. It's essentially a waste and disservice to Elliot if he loses 20 snaps a game due to rotational snaps. 

I'd personally flip Tampa and Miami, but they are pretty interchangeable so no issues here. 

Leonard Floyd to the Eagles is also very questionable. The team just invested a small fortune into their defense. The reason they lost last year had nothing to do with the defense in all honesty. Taking Floyd at best gets you a rotational player to develop at either LEO role (in which case what do you do with Barwin) or at DE (Graham and Curry). Additionally, the pick would be purely potential at this point. 

Maybe the Raiders reach on a CB like Jackson here, but i don't see it. They have FA and a ton of money to do that with. Additionally, Oakland's drafts have been very strong of late and outside of the 2013 class, always take the BPA. 

 

 

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39 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

DeForest Buckner to the Jaguars is a questionable fit. He isn't an extremely quick guy (he's good but not lightning quick like Seattle EDGEs are typically) and doesn't really fit the mold of a 43 DT at either spot. Look at the Seattle model. The EDGEs are usually lighter players (take cliff avril for example) that have speed to win. Buckner doesn't really fit that description. I really think that he is mainly a 34 DE. 

Then we have Ezekiel Elliot to the 49ers. Baalke is all about value and no matter how good a RB is, they are almost never value in round 1. Furthermore, I kinda think you neglected that they recently invested a high pick (2nd round) in Carlos Hyde who showed well last year. Finally, Chip Kelly likes to use a rotation of RB in his system. Ezekiel Elliot's value in his ability to stay on the field all 3 downs. It's essentially a waste and disservice to Elliot if he loses 20 snaps a game due to rotational snaps. 

I'd personally flip Tampa and Miami, but they are pretty interchangeable so no issues here. 

Leonard Floyd to the Eagles is also very questionable. The team just invested a small fortune into their defense. The reason they lost last year had nothing to do with the defense in all honesty. Taking Floyd at best gets you a rotational player to develop at either LEO role (in which case what do you do with Barwin) or at DE (Graham and Curry). Additionally, the pick would be purely potential at this point. 

Maybe the Raiders reach on a CB like Jackson here, but i don't see it. They have FA and a ton of money to do that with. Additionally, Oakland's drafts have been very strong of late and outside of the 2013 class, always take the BPA. 

 

 

I understand the viewpoint on the niners and zeke, I like to throw wild picks in there though and I did forget about Carlos Hyde and if he wasn't there then I see a great fit. 

 

I don't see Floyd as a rotational guy or a developmental guy, I think he would be an asset anywhere and the eagles still need an edge rusher and Floyd brings that in a division where his explosiveness and mobility will pay dividends. 

 

I personally don't see wj3 as a reach there and I think he's the 3rd db in the class. I thought highly of him even before the combine and I didn't know he was even close to being that fast, that makes his ceiling that much higher. 

 

Also I don't see buckner being a bad for in jax, they need secondary but I'll take their word when they say they wanna address the front seven, buckner would be a dream fit playing inside of Fowler and drawing the immediate attention while Fowler gets to shoot in from out wide against a lone tackle or TE. 

 

All good points though and obviously there's no real correct opinions at this juncture

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1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I understand the viewpoint on the niners and zeke, I like to throw wild picks in there though and I did forget about Carlos Hyde and if he wasn't there then I see a great fit. 

 

I don't see Floyd as a rotational guy or a developmental guy, I think he would be an asset anywhere and the eagles still need an edge rusher and Floyd brings that in a division where his explosiveness and mobility will pay dividends. 

 

I personally don't see wj3 as a reach there and I think he's the 3rd db in the class. I thought highly of him even before the combine and I didn't know he was even close to being that fast, that makes his ceiling that much higher. 

 

Also I don't see buckner being a bad for in jax, they need secondary but I'll take their word when they say they wanna address the front seven, buckner would be a dream fit playing inside of Fowler and drawing the immediate attention while Fowler gets to shoot in from out wide against a lone tackle or TE. 

 

All good points though and obviously there's no real correct opinions at this juncture

Where does Floyd play in the Eagles D? 

The line should look like so Graham, Cox, Logan, Curry - He is not unseating any of those guys

The linebackers look like this - Alonso(WILL), Kendricks(MIKE), Barwin (LEO/OTTO?). I don't think Floyd unseats anyone here either. 

Just by the too many bodies principle, he probably becomes a rotational player especially since he needs to develop his body more. 

Obviously given the above, I don't see the Eagles needing an EDGE much if it at all. They may take one because you can never have too many, but need is not the word to use. 

William Jackson is interesting, but i don't think he is a mid 1st. Given how much the Raiders have to spend and their intent to use it, I highly doubt they don't go after a corner (especially with Ramsey and Hargreeves unlikely to fall to them), but we will see. I just think there are better players and they have no incentive reach here given their other opportunities.

I don't think Buckner fits the profile of a 3-tech rusher at all. Maybe you can put him at DE in a 43 scheme, but it just doesn't fit their profile and franchises value their process above all else.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think it's a mistake to pass on Kendall Fuller for Bullard. You know I'm honest so I'll tell you I think your personal bias for Fuller clouds your judgment if this is what you think the Ravens will do. If this mock is what you'd do then carry on. 

I love Myles Jack and have him as an elite prospect. He's far and away better than other guys we could pick. If he's there he'll be our pick but I could see a tough choice made between him and Hargreaves. We need Hargreaves but I think Fuller is very talented although has weaknesses. If we drafted Myles Jack I think the Ravens would deploy more zone coverage and I think Fuller would kill it in zone a ballhawking playmaker. As a perfect one two punch, I can't see a better combo than Bosa or Jack and Fuller in the second. I think Kendall has become criminally underrated. He's the perfect CB for Frazier to develop and could be lethal across Jimmy. Kendall is better than Kyle coming out. 

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31 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think it's a mistake to pass on Kendall Fuller for Bullard. You know I'm honest so I'll tell you I think your personal bias for Fuller clouds your judgment if this is what you think the Ravens will do. If this mock is what you'd do then carry on. 

I love Myles Jack and have him as an elite prospect. He's far and away better than other guys we could pick. If he's there he'll be our pick but I could see a tough choice made between him and Hargreaves. We need Hargreaves but I think Fuller is very talented although has weaknesses. If we drafted Myles Jack I think the Ravens would deploy more zone coverage and I think Fuller would kill it in zone a ballhawking playmaker. As a perfect one two punch, I can't see a better combo than Bosa or Jack and Fuller in the second. I think Kendall has become criminally underrated. He's the perfect CB for Frazier to develop and could be lethal across Jimmy. Kendall is better than Kyle coming out. 

Can you tell me one or two game in which he was good? Because the two or so games I watched of him he got badly burnt, so I'm thinking maybe I got the wrong sample. If you have the "right" sample I would like to see it.

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1 hour ago, Jacquouille said:

Can you tell me one or two game in which he was good? Because the two or so games I watched of him he got badly burnt, so I'm thinking maybe I got the wrong sample. If you have the "right" sample I would like to see it.

Did you see him VS Duke? Did you watch 2015 games or 2014? Big difference since he played 2015 with an injury and eventually got shutdown for the year. He played well against quite a few teams in 2014, such as East Carolina and North Carolina. 

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1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

I think it's a mistake to pass on Kendall Fuller for Bullard. You know I'm honest so I'll tell you I think your personal bias for Fuller clouds your judgment if this is what you think the Ravens will do. If this mock is what you'd do then carry on. 

I love Myles Jack and have him as an elite prospect. He's far and away better than other guys we could pick. If he's there he'll be our pick but I could see a tough choice made between him and Hargreaves. We need Hargreaves but I think Fuller is very talented although has weaknesses. If we drafted Myles Jack I think the Ravens would deploy more zone coverage and I think Fuller would kill it in zone a ballhawking playmaker. As a perfect one two punch, I can't see a better combo than Bosa or Jack and Fuller in the second. I think Kendall has become criminally underrated. He's the perfect CB for Frazier to develop and could be lethal across Jimmy. Kendall is better than Kyle coming out. 

I'll admit in a heart beat that I'm just not personally a big fan of fuller. And it's sort of a combo of both in terms of who I like vs who they'll take. I originally went fuller but I was watching more tape On Bullard and I just decided to change for personal preference. I think he'd do a great job filling in for both canty and Upshaw and would bring a lot of moving pressure. 

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