[News] Laquon Treadwell & Top Wide Receiver Combine Workouts

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Ole Miss’ Laquon Treadwell showed good hands, but the receiver class was slower than in previous years.

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[edthehead]

did you see those hands on treadwell,

[verified]

ramsey or treadwell with the first pick. Ipromise if we pick a pass rusher in the first round im done. Ozzie keeps missing on pass rushers and it would be tragic to see him miss this high. Its a deep draft for pass rushers so get one in the later rounds if need be.

[billiejean]

18 minutes ago, verified said:

ramsey or treadwell with the first pick. Ipromise if we pick a pass rusher in the first round im done. Ozzie keeps missing on pass rushers and it would be tragic to see him miss this high. Its a deep draft for pass rushers so get one in the later rounds if need be.

who were the pass rushers that Oz missed on?  treadmill isn't worthy of being drafted six overall.

Edited March 1, 2016 by billiejean

[verified]

  15 minutes ago, verified said:

ramsey or treadwell with the first pick. Ipromise if we pick a pass rusher in the first round im done. Ozzie keeps missing on pass rushers and it would be tragic to see him miss this high. Its a deep draft for pass rushers so get one in the later rounds if need be.

who were the pass rushers that Oz missed on. treadmill isn't worthy of being drafted six overall.

Sergio kendell, Courtny upshaw, john simon, Kapron Lewis-Moore the list goes on. Treadwell could be the next dez bryant if we have a chance to give flacco a guy like that we have to.

[verified]

If by some miracle jalen ramsey is available he should be our first option. we have no corners that can stay healthy as we slowly start to lose faith in jimmy smith we need someone that can really play

[fusuymada]

  13 minutes ago, verified said:

ramsey or treadwell with the first pick. Ipromise if we pick a pass rusher in the first round im done. Ozzie keeps missing on pass rushers and it would be tragic to see him miss this high. Its a deep draft for pass rushers so get one in the later rounds if need be.

who were the pass rushers that Oz missed on. treadmill isn't worthy of being drafted six overall.

Since 2000 DL/LB failures: S Kindle,T Cody, Dan Cody, A Brown, J Phillips, John Simon, Kapron Lewis-Moore, Tyson, Kruger, Ryan LaCasse, Mike Smith, A Barnes, T Gooden, P Burgess, Anthony Weaver, Mike Smith, Dwayne Missouri. Jury is still out on: Z Smith, Jernigan, Upshaw, Urban Successes: Mosley, B Williams, McPhee, A Jones, H Ngata. I agree with the first comment. Too many failed choices not only in Baltimore, but league wide finding a good pass rusher is hard. J Clowney was a sure lock to knock the league over and he can't stay healthy enough to stay on the field. I have to agree that moving up and getting Ramsey is far preferable to someone like Bosa who lacks explosiveness and speed. Besides, this draft is far deeper in pass rushers than at any other position and a good pass rusher will drop enough we can get a good one in the second round.

[billiejean]

  23 minutes ago, billiejean said:

  30 minutes ago, verified said:

ramsey or treadwell with the first pick. Ipromise if we pick a pass rusher in the first round im done. Ozzie keeps missing on pass rushers and it would be tragic to see him miss this high. Its a deep draft for pass rushers so get one in the later rounds if need be.

who were the pass rushers that Oz missed on. treadmill isn't worthy of being drafted six overall.

Sergio kendell, Courtny upshaw, john simon, Kapron Lewis-Moore the list goes on. Treadwell could be the next dez bryant if we have a chance to give flacco a guy like that we have to.

I would take Treadwell if we traded back . You don't draft a receiver who is slow, a bad route runner, and not good at getting separation, with in the first 10 picks ofthe draft. Kapron Lewis Moore is a 3-4 DE not a pass rusher. Sergio, John, and Upshaw surely didn't live up to expectations, but you would have a hard time listing others. In other words I don't think the list goes on and on. The only other guy which didn't perform as expected is Antwan Barnes, but he was a good contributor. Ozzy drafted Pete Boulware, Terrell Suggs, Adalius Thomas, Paul Kruger and even converted a 3-4 DE into an OLB (Mcphee). We also picked up Zadarius Smith last year and he had a promising rookie season.

[billiejean]

30 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

1 hour ago, billiejean said:

  47 minutes ago, verified said:

ramsey or treadwell with the first pick. Ipromise if we pick a pass rusher in the first round im done. Ozzie keeps missing on pass rushers and it would be tragic to see him miss this high. Its a deep draft for pass rushers so get one in the later rounds if need be.

who were the pass rushers that Oz missed on. treadmill isn't worthy of being drafted six overall.

Since 2000 DL/LB failures: S Kindle,T Cody, Dan Cody, A Brown, J Phillips, John Simon, Kapron Lewis-Moore, Tyson, Kruger, Ryan LaCasse, Mike Smith, A Barnes, T Gooden, P Burgess, Anthony Weaver, Mike Smith, Dwayne Missouri. Jury is still out on: Z Smith, Jernigan, Upshaw, Urban Successes: Mosley, B Williams, McPhee, A Jones, H Ngata. I agree with the first comment. Too many failed choices not only in Baltimore, but league wide finding a good pass rusher is hard. J Clowney was a sure lock to knock the league over and he can't stay healthy enough to stay on the field. I have to agree that moving up and getting Ramsey is far preferable to someone like Bosa who lacks explosiveness and speed. Besides, this draft is far deeper in pass rushers than at any other position and a good pass rusher will drop enough we can get a good one in the second round.

We are talking about pass rushers though. That doesn't include DTs and ILB. Cody, KLM, Tyson, A Weaver, are all DTs or DEs (interior lineman). A Brown, Jphillips, T Gooden, P Burgess, Dan Cody were are all ILB, not edge rushers. Missouri, Smith ,and Lacasse were all drafted in the 7th round and drafting someone that late is a crap shoot. But you are right they didn't cut the mustard.

Edited March 1, 2016 by billiejean

[verified]

  1 hour ago, billiejean said:

  1 hour ago, verified said:

ramsey or treadwell with the first pick. Ipromise if we pick a pass rusher in the first round im done. Ozzie keeps missing on pass rushers and it would be tragic to see him miss this high. Its a deep draft for pass rushers so get one in the later rounds if need be.

who were the pass rushers that Oz missed on. treadmill isn't worthy of being drafted six overall.

Since 2000 DL/LB failures: S Kindle,T Cody, Dan Cody, A Brown, J Phillips, John Simon, Kapron Lewis-Moore, Tyson, Kruger, Ryan LaCasse, Mike Smith, A Barnes, T Gooden, P Burgess, Anthony Weaver, Mike Smith, Dwayne Missouri. Jury is still out on: Z Smith, Jernigan, Upshaw, Urban Successes: Mosley, B Williams, McPhee, A Jones, H Ngata. I agree with the first comment. Too many failed choices not only in Baltimore, but league wide finding a good pass rusher is hard. J Clowney was a sure lock to knock the league over and he can't stay healthy enough to stay on the field. I have to agree that moving up and getting Ramsey is far preferable to someone like Bosa who lacks explosiveness and speed. Besides, this draft is far deeper in pass rushers than at any other position and a good pass rusher will drop enough we can get a good one in the second round.

All facts here

[verified]

  50 minutes ago, verified said:

  1 hour ago, billiejean said:

  1 hour ago, verified said:

ramsey or treadwell with the first pick. Ipromise if we pick a pass rusher in the first round im done. Ozzie keeps missing on pass rushers and it would be tragic to see him miss this high. Its a deep draft for pass rushers so get one in the later rounds if need be.

who were the pass rushers that Oz missed on. treadmill isn't worthy of being drafted six overall.

Sergio kendell, Courtny upshaw, john simon, Kapron Lewis-Moore the list goes on. Treadwell could be the next dez bryant if we have a chance to give flacco a guy like that we have to.

I would take Treadwell if we traded back . You don't draft a receiver who is slow, a bad route runner, and not good at getting separation, with in the first 10 picks ofthe draft. Kapron Lewis Moore is a 3-4 DE not a pass rusher. Sergio, John, and Upshaw surely didn't live up to expectations, but you would have a hard time listing others. In other words I don't think the list goes on and on. The only other guy which didn't perform as expected is Antwan Barnes, but he was a good contributor. Ozzy drafted Pete Boulware, Terrell Suggs, Adalius Thomas, Paul Kruger and even converted a 3-4 DE into an OLB (Mcphee). We also picked up Zadarius Smith last year and he had a promising rookie season.

They said the same thing about alson jeffery and kelvin benjamin when they came out. Slow, cant run routes, cant get seperation and look at them now. Dont pay so much attention to 40 times. a fast 40 doesnt mean someone will be great. Ask the raiders when they picked hey ward bey over crabtree and the rams when they picked tavon austin. Over rated all because they ran fast 40 times.

[billiejean]

9 minutes ago, verified said:

43 minutes ago, billiejean said:

  59 minutes ago, verified said:

  1 hour ago, billiejean said:

  1 hour ago, verified said:

ramsey or treadwell with the first pick. Ipromise if we pick a pass rusher in the first round im done. Ozzie keeps missing on pass rushers and it would be tragic to see him miss this high. Its a deep draft for pass rushers so get one in the later rounds if need be.

who were the pass rushers that Oz missed on. treadmill isn't worthy of being drafted six overall.

Sergio kendell, Courtny upshaw, john simon, Kapron Lewis-Moore the list goes on. Treadwell could be the next dez bryant if we have a chance to give flacco a guy like that we have to.

I would take Treadwell if we traded back . You don't draft a receiver who is slow, a bad route runner, and not good at getting separation, with in the first 10 picks ofthe draft. Kapron Lewis Moore is a 3-4 DE not a pass rusher. Sergio, John, and Upshaw surely didn't live up to expectations, but you would have a hard time listing others. In other words I don't think the list goes on and on. The only other guy which didn't perform as expected is Antwan Barnes, but he was a good contributor. Ozzy drafted Pete Boulware, Terrell Suggs, Adalius Thomas, Paul Kruger and even converted a 3-4 DE into an OLB (Mcphee). We also picked up Zadarius Smith last year and he had a promising rookie season.

They said the same thing about alson jeffery and kelvin benjamin when they came out. Slow, cant run routes, cant get seperation and look at them now. Dont pay so much attention to 40 times. a fast 40 doesnt mean someone will be great. Ask the raiders when they picked hey ward bey over crabtree and the rams when they picked tavon austin. Over rated all because they ran fast 40 times.

its not his forty time that worries me, its the fact that he is a sloppy route runner. And you need to either be fast or a good route runner to compete at the nfl level. He could certainly learn how to become a better route runner though, I just wouldn't take him at number 6. The most appealing thing about him, to me at least, is that he goes after the ball and doesn't wait for it to come to him which is key if you can't get much separation.

Edited March 1, 2016 by billiejean

[Valid1]

What are you talking about? Some routes are occasionally rounded but Treadwell has the best foot work in the class. Add that he consistently gained separation at the highest level of college competition to the fact he is still only 20 and I think he would easily be the best WR the Ravens have ever had.

[Drew P]

Realistically the top 3 will probably long gone when they pick in the second round. Braxton didn't help his cause at the combine looks like a mid round project.

[Grapple Raven]

As far as WR options go, I prefer Josh Doctson, personally.

[billiejean]

1 hour ago, Valid1 said:

What are you talking about? Some routes are occasionally rounded but Treadwell has the best foot work in the class. Add that he consistently gained separation at the highest level of college competition to the fact he is still only 20 and I think he would easily be the best WR the Ravens have ever had.

This is what I am talking about....     Scouting reports for L Treadwell. I didn't cherry pick these they were the first that came up when i google "Laquan Treadwell scouting report"

Cbssports.com - "Route-running still a work-in-progress and wasn't asked to run a full tree in the Ole Miss offense. Needs to rely more on his footwork at the top of routes to create separation. Speed is average for the position, lacking a second gear vertically to easily gain a step."

musiccitymiracles.com - "Doesn't appear to have that high, breakaway gear. Route running could use a lot more polish. Lots of rounded off breaks. Separation is a bit of a concern."

walterfootball.com - "Will struggle to separate from NFL cornerbacks. Not fast in and out of breaks."

profootballfocus.com - "Separation in general is really poor, will have to win in the catch point in the NFL"

todayspigskin - "Needs to do a better job of selling his routes in order to get the cornerback to commit; which goes hand in hand with running sharper route. Does not create much separation from the defensive back, lacks deep speed."

breakingfootball.com -"Weaknesses -Not a deep thread/gaining separation - route running.

nflmocks.com - "The main weakness for Laquon Treadwell is his route running."

Edited March 2, 2016 by billiejean

[Maryland]

Treadwell is the best receiver in a weak class. That will probably cause him to go higher than he should. I would only take him if we're picking mid to late first round (in a trade scenario). He struggled to get separation vs better defenses, especially vs Florida and their future-NFL DBs