Who should we take at #6? The new and improved version

[GrimCoconut]

Why do you guys think cut players have any indication of who the Ravens or another team select with their top-10 pick? I don't think it has anything to do with the price of tea in China. 

[ALPHA]

Jack is an incredible player but it's a risk taking him at his word, he says the knee is not and issue but he would say that even if he was hiding something major. Not running at the combine tells me it's not 100.

[ravensnation5220]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why do you guys think cut players have any indication of who the Ravens or another team select with their top-10 pick? I don't think it has anything to do with the price of tea in China. 

Lol i know. Just waiy till free agency starts

 

Fyi check out the wr thread. I posted a game tape of sterling sheppard that i want everyone to see. I feel like hes something we need and id love him to learn from ssr 

Edited March 4, 2016 by ravensnation5220

[Inqui]

Just now, ALPHA said:

Jack is an incredible player but it's a risk taking him at his word, he says the knee is not and issue but he would say that even if he was hiding something major. Not running at the combine tells me it's not 100.

The teams aren't just taking his word though, he got poked and prodded at the combine medicals and nothing desperately problematic got pulled up (at least, nothing that we heard of). He's still got several months to come fully right, and as it stands he's expected to run and cut for his pro day.

[ALPHA]

5 minutes ago, Inqui said:

The teams aren't just taking his word though, he got poked and prodded at the combine medicals and nothing desperately problematic got pulled up (at least, nothing that we heard of). He's still got several months to come fully right, and as it stands he's expected to run and cut for his pro day.

If he lights up his pro day without any issues it will completely change the top 5 picks.

[DomMcRaven]

13 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why do you guys think cut players have any indication of who the Ravens or another team select with their top-10 pick? I don't think it has anything to do with the price of tea in China. 

That's what you think, huh? God bless you. 

[January J]

7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Decosguysadidactually we have ram s ey , o ursa, and Jack or buckner thyye re, then it's pretty safe tohrr assume that Jack or buckner won't be the pick. 

 

I think this 2 guys thing is more about realism rather than all possibilities. Were probably expecting tunsil, bosa, and ramsey to go before us and I think that buckner and Jack are being viewed as the 2 realistic options at this point, doesn't mean we are dead set on either

Oh most definitely, obviously if ramsey Or bosa is There that changes the game. Decosta stated that there are two Guys they are very confident will be there at 6. So looking at the options the only two or Three that really make sense for us that are Actually likely to be there are jack, spence And maybe Buckner. But no, that doesnt mean they are at the top Of our board by any means. Guess i Didnt make that clear.

[Sizzlebshu]

17 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why do you guys think cut players have any indication of who the Ravens or another team select with their top-10 pick? I don't think it has anything to do with the price of tea in China. 

Players expendibility is an indicator of how they feel about the position

[GrimCoconut]

3 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

That's what you think, huh? God bless you. 

Not sure if serious, but why would any NFL team cut a player [Daryl Smith] before they have that player's replacement because they think they may get that player in the draft? What if the Ravens cut Smith & didn't pick up Canty's option because they want Buckner & Jack. Let's say that's true. What if Jacksonville takes Jack, and SD takes Buckner? Ozzie Newsome looks kinda dumb then. That's why I don't buy it. 

[Sizzlebshu]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

Not sure if serious, but why would any NFL team cut a player [Daryl Smith] before they have that player's replacement because they think they may get that player in the draft? What if the Ravens cut Smith & didn't pick up Canty's option because they want Buckner & Jack. Let's say that's true. What if Jacksonville takes Jack, and SD takes Buckner? Ozzie Newsome looks kinda dumb then. That's why I don't buy it. 

Its not like this draft is deep in quality linebacker at almost every round

[JoeyFlex5]

4 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

That's what you think, huh? God bless you. 

It's a terrible strategy to remove 2 starters from your team and depending on a 6th overall pick to replace one. 

 

That player isn't here yet, Ozzie doesn't operate that way, thats too knee jerk and reckless, Ozzie is methodical and meticulous.

 

 

 

[January J]

7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

7 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Not sandif seriousmealishy would any NFL  team cut a pla y er [Daryl Smith] befoaey have that playtheelacement bec ause they think they  may get that player in the draft? What if the Ravens cut Smith & didn't pick up Canty's option because they want Buckner & Jack. Let's say that's true. What if Jacksonville takes Jack, and SD takes Buckner? Ozzie Newsome looks kinda dumb then. That's why I don't buy it. 

Doesnt mean We will Necessarily pick Those Exact players  Bc obviously theres No guarentees, but it does Mean we will place more priority on Those particular positions..which in turn just makes it more Likely That we target a guy like jack Or Buckner. And if we happen to miss them both then we'll take the next Bpa and shoot for a replacement in the next few rounds. Ofcourse The hole has to be filled somewhere, whether it be FA or   the draft, and in this particular situatio releasin smith and canty it seems we are tryin to get younger so its Likely we use the draft. Just  makes jack And buckner a more likely option thats all

Edited March 4, 2016 by January J

[Sizzlebshu]

5 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

It's a terrible strategy to remove 2 starters from your team and depending on a 6th overall pick to replace one. 

 

That player isn't here yet, Ozzie doesn't operate that way, thats too knee jerk and reckless, Ozzie is methodical and meticulous.

 

 

 

Its not like this draft has canty level d line in like every round

[DomMcRaven]

7 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Not sure if serious, but why would any NFL team cut a player [Daryl Smith] before they have that player's replacement because they think they may get that player in the draft? What if the Ravens cut Smith & didn't pick up Canty's option because they want Buckner & Jack. Let's say that's true. What if Jacksonville takes Jack, and SD takes Buckner? Ozzie Newsome looks kinda dumb then. That's why I don't buy it. 

I wasn't. I was joking about what you said about the price of tea in China.....................and I don't even drink tea.

 

At all. 

[52520Andrew]

29 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why do you guys think cut players have any indication of who the Ravens or another team select with their top-10 pick? I don't think it has anything to do with the price of tea in China. 

I hope this doesn't become the next so and so got cut so let's sign them bit that we see in RT

[JoeyFlex5]

4 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

Its not like this draft has canty level d line in like every round

Oh I'm sorry, are we talking about mid round possibilities here? I do believe this thread is 100% focused on our 6th overall pick.

[Jacquouille]

I've seen Adolphus Washington mocked to us in the 3rd so I would say if you need to replace Canty, it's the perfect year for it actually. 

[Radinho84]

For me it is very hard to pick one of the Top6.

I think only Ramsey is coming with close to 0 risk.

 

Bosa and Buckner could always end up like clowney (knowing that he is just in the league for 2 years)

VHIII is for the moment the most likely option. I think if it would come down to bosa vs VHIII we would pick the top corner of this year´s draft...

Edited March 4, 2016 by Radinho84

[trevorsteadman]

To me I agree with Ryan Mink on his last video. I see the Canty and Daryl Smith moves in a similar sense as Ed Reed. We all saw Ed Reed struggling a bit every now and then the last two seasons he was with us... I think we started seeing that with Daryl Smith in coverage last season and a lot of people on the forums blamed Mosley for being the bad coverage linebacker. I think both struggled... But as a team you have to decide when you bail out. Sometimes it is better cutting a player one year early than one year too late. Canty was still playing decent football but again he is a 33 defensive lineman that has had injury issues almost every year. Two very good players for us that helped out team tremendously. Was I confused after the Daryl Smith move yesterday? Of course. But it makes sense now and I do not think that these moves affect our draft board for the #6 pick. Maybe our 2nd and 3rd round picks, but not our first. 

[ngatainmyhouse]

I wasn't able to watch much of the combine but are teams generally still viewing Ramsey as a Safety or more as a CB now. I know he can play both but I didn't know that if any of the teams in front of us drafted him, would they have him a CB or Safety? 

[KBoum]

3 minutes ago, ngatainmyhouse said:

I wasn't able to watch much of the combine but are teams generally still viewing Ramsey as a Safety or more as a CB now. I know he can play both but I didn't know that if any of the teams in front of us drafted him, would they have him a CB or Safety? 

Ramsey said he view himself playing CB in the NFL. Maybe they'll use him a bit like Tyrann Mathieu in Arizona. I see him more safety as he's aging but CB early on

[jazz1988]

53 minutes ago, ngatainmyhouse said:

I wasn't able to watch much of the combine but are teams generally still viewing Ramsey as a Safety or more as a CB now. I know he can play both but I didn't know that if any of the teams in front of us drafted him, would they have him a CB or Safety? 

 
I don't think teams should look at him as justa   one position only type player.Ramsey can do it all in the secondary to playing corner back, nickel corner, strong safety, and free safety. The guy may  even be able to play linebacker from time to time as well but who ever gets him  is getting a player that can bring  alot versatility to the secondary

[January J]

I would be so pumped to see Jack come in @ RB  on goal line situations and pound the ball in the endzone.

[jboy19]

13 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why do you guys think cut players have any indication of who the Ravens or another team select with their top-10 pick? I don't think it has anything to do with the price of tea in China. 

I guess to defend what I said earlier. I wasn't implying that the Chargers cut Donald Butler because they plan on taking Myles Jack (No sane GM would do that) but you have to think that with that player gone, the Chargers may value the LB position (in FA and/or the draft) higher than they would had they not cut Donald Butler. 

[Davesta]

1 hour ago, jboy19 said:

I guess to defend what I said earlier. I wasn't implying that the Chargers cut Donald Butler because they plan on taking Myles Jack (No sane GM would do that) but you have to think that with that player gone, the Chargers may value the LB position (in FA and/or the draft) higher than they would had they not cut Donald Butler. 

I think they found a 2nd round gem for their linebacker last year in perryman, pair him up with manti teo made butlers big contract expendable. I don't think they'll draft myles. With weddle gone, Ramsey is more likely to go to them

[Davesta]

2 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

 
I don't think teams should look at him as justa   one position only type player.Ramsey can do it all in the secondary to playing corner back, nickel corner, strong safety, and free safety. The guy may  even be able to play linebacker from time to time as well but who ever gets him  is getting a player that can bring  alot versatility to the secondary

If we draft him, I don't think dean pees is clever enough to play him all over the field like a tyrann mathieu. Plus I tend to think the difference in pay scale for corner compared to safeties has something to do with him saying he rather play corner (not for the rookie contract but for the 2nd big money contract down the line)   

[Radinho84]

4 hours ago, KBoum said:

Ramsey said he view himself playing CB in the NFL. Maybe they'll use him a bit like Tyrann Mathieu in Arizona. I see him more safety as he's aging but CB early on

of course he says corner… much more money.

I think he can be left on an island...

[jazz1988]

2 hours ago, Davesta said:

If we draft him, I don't think dean pees is clever enough to play him all over the field like a tyrann mathieu. Plus I tend to think the difference in pay scale for corner compared to safeties has something to do with him saying he rather play corner (not for the rookie contract but for the 2nd big money contract down the line)   

I'm not too sure that Dean Pees is not clever enough to do so . Pees use Matt Elam in 2014 all over the field from strong safety, free safety, and  to nickel corner. I don't think Matt Elam was mentally prepare for that and his poor tackling didn't make things better either but I honestly think Pees would be happy to have a guy like Ramsey in his secondary.

[RavensFanMania]

On 3/4/2016 at 10:12 AM, KBoum said:

Ramsey said he view himself playing CB in the NFL. Maybe they'll use him a bit like Tyrann Mathieu in Arizona. I see him more safety as he's aging but CB early on

He'd be awesome being used this way.  Hopefully we find a way as I think he's a swiss army knife type of player. Ramsey would be a great weapon  to have.  Same with Jack since he can cover WR, RB and TEs

[ravensdan]

On March 4, 2016 at 2:59 AM, Jacquouille said:

I've seen Adolphus Washington mocked to us in the 3rd so I would say if you need to replace Canty, it's the perfect year for it actually. 

That's a player I've been a huge fan of for a couple years. I would love to see him in Baltimore.