Who should we take at #6? The new and improved version

[Raven'evermore]

 Maybe, but I would hope in a trade down.

[lgcs27288]

2 hours ago, rmw10 said:

I don't think it's that at all.  In that same statement, DeCosta said that they have a pretty good idea how the top 5 is going to go.  I'd imagine they have based the 2 guys off of what they expect to happen.

I believe this also. If you break down his direct quote,  “We feel like we know who the top six guys will be in the draft, at least we feel like we have it narrowed to the two guys that we would probably pick" 

They are predicting who the teams in front of them will choose and then basing the two guys that will more than likely be there at 6.

[Edgar]

6 hours ago, Drew P said:

They may even go with Zeke

Possible. If jones can be believed and they are not in market for a QB, I'd have to believe they're about the same three names as we are. Ramsey,Bosa,Jack.

[ravensnation5220]

12 minutes ago, lgcs27288 said:

I believe this also. If you break down his direct quote,  “We feel like we know who the top six guys will be in the draft, at least we feel like we have it narrowed to the two guys that we would probably pick" 

They are predicting who the teams in front of them will choose and then basing the two guys that will more than likely be there at 6.

So we kinda get a feeling what the board looks like and if they already have it down to 2 guys, i highly doubt stanley is as everyone has been mockomg him to us. But what do all the teams ahead do with theyre pick, anyone go investigating on other teams forums lol

[52520Andrew]

Tunsil, Buckner, Bosa, Jack, and Ramsey are not choices in the first poll as they are picked. This is a worst case scenario situation

Don't know how 17 people missed this but the results of the poll are pretty clear at least. 

[rmw10]

To answer the thread, VH3.  He was my choice in the first installment of this thread and nothing has changed for me.  Still think he's a top flight CB who can play right away.

[lgcs27288]

19 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

To answer the thread, VH3.  He was my choice in the first installment of this thread and nothing has changed for me.  Still think he's a top flight CB who can play right away.

Im not opposed to getting VH3, I just feel like we can get a better 1-2 punch with a pass rusher in the first and a cb in the 2nd. 

Edited March 3, 2016 by lgcs27288

[RaineV1]

18 minutes ago, lgcs27288 said:

Im not opposed to getting VH3, I just feel like we can get a better 1-2 punch with a pass rusher in the first and a cb in the 2nd. 

I agree. The draft is a lot deeper at safety and corner than it is at edge rusher. I'd rather get an edge guy early if possible.

[nishadrahman13]

On 3/2/2016 at 9:00 PM, Davesta said:

What's with this massive love for jack? He didn't do anything at the combine due to injury. Are you all just gauging on tape? 

Yeah, based on tape he is a Kuechly-level player, except better against the pass (and slightly worse against the run). Freak of an athlete, loves the game, playmaker. If he's there we should sprint to the podium. I have him over big time guys like Bosa and Ramsey myself.

[nishadrahman13]

7 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I agree. The draft is a lot deeper at safety and corner than it is at edge rusher. I'd rather get an edge guy early if possible.

Especially if a guy like William Jackson III makes it to our second round pick. Not only did he blow up the combine, but before that, his tape was high caliber.

[nishadrahman13]

This year is shaping up nicely. We'll essentially be adding three first rounders to our roster (Perriman, 6th overall, and a pick that is very close to where we usually pick and almost definitely among our top 30 highest ranked players).

[January J]

14 hours ago, Drew P said:

4 hours ago, rmw10 said:

I don't think it's that at all.  In that same statement, DeCosta said that they have a pretty good idea how the top 5 is going to go.  I'd imagine they have based the 2 guys off of what they expect to happen.

I agree. I think it has to be between jack and spence if they are confident those 2 will be available. Maybe buckner. Im sure they have a few guys ranked higher but they dont expect them to make it to us.

[RavensDieHard21]

56 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I agree. The draft is a lot deeper at safety and corner than it is at edge rusher. I'd rather get an edge guy early if possible.

That is how I see it. Get the top edge rushers early then come back in the second for a corner. It's possible, but I would be surprised if after Ramsey, Hargreaves, and Alexander are gone, that Apple, Jackson III, and Fuller are all gone too. Interesting thought though, if Bosa, Ramsey, and Jack are gone and Buckner and Lawson are both there, would you prefer the interior rush of Buckner or Lawson being a role player early and hopefully Sizzle's successor?

[RavensDieHard21]

53 minutes ago, nishadrahman13 said:

This year is shaping up nicely. We'll essentially be adding three first rounders to our roster (Perriman, 6th overall, and a pick that is very close to where we usually pick and almost definitely among our top 30 highest ranked players).

Positive way to look at it! I see Perriman panning out greatly and whoever we take in the second will be a first round talent. I'd be stoked if Scooby Wright slipped to us in the third or we moved up because just last year he was a late round 1 lock, if not early second. 

Edited March 3, 2016 by RavensDieHard21

[RaineV1]

4 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

That is how I see it. Get the top edge rushers early then come back in the second for a corner. It's possible, but I would be surprised if after Ramsey, Hargreaves, and Alexander are gone, that Apple, Jackson III, and Fuller are all gone too. Interesting thought though, if Bosa, Ramsey, and Jack are gone and Buckner and Lawson are both there, would you prefer the interior rush of Buckner or Lawson being a role player early and hopefully Sizzle's successor?

Yeah, I'd take Buckner over Lawson. Buckner is probably my favorite player in the draft, and I think he can dominate on a level that Lawson won't. I really like Lawson, but I'd just rank Buckner higher.

[RavensDieHard21]

3 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Yeah, I'd take Buckner over Lawson. Buckner is probably my favorite player in the draft, and I think he can dominate on a level that Lawson won't. I really like Lawson, but I'd just rank Buckner higher.

his ceiling is just so high and an interior rush would do wonders for the rest of the defense once Buckner and Jernigan get in the QB's face all game lol

[Jacquouille]

5 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

his ceiling is just so high and an interior rush would do wonders for the rest of the defense once Buckner and Jernigan get in the QB's face all game lol

It's hard to say no to a front 3 where all 3 players have to be double teamed.

[jdynamite]

On March 1, 2016 at 10:35 AM, sflegend89 said:

Also the "Who should we pick" portion of the poll should definitely include Jack, Buckner, Stanley, among some others. No reason for Wentz/Goff/Robinson/Lawson/Smith to even be in consideration at #6.

 

I agree with you when I saw Wentz, Goff, Lawson I instantly thought why are their names listed at all. The Ravens don't need a QB and Lawson would be a complete reach at 6.   

J.Smith health concerns are the only reason he isn't a true option  

Also it seems that many Draft Analysts are undervaluing Treadwell as a Top Tier WR prospect they are placing him as a mid-first rounder, so it's beginning to seem  l unlikely that he goes as high as #6 with us. 

[jdynamite]

I've been a huge J.Ramsey fan since 2 years ago when he dominated in game vs my Hurricanes, but after his combine he may have solidified being a top 5 pick unless something happens with the QBs pushing 2 other prospects down to us.  

 

The way I'm thinking we absolutely need 2 QBs to go in the Top 5 to have a legitimate shot at either Bosa, Buckner or Ramsey falling to us at #6. If only 1 QB is selected meaning Cleveland then all 3 of those prospects maybe gone.  I would love for a QB needed team to leap frog 49ers and allow us to move back slightly and still manage to  get VH3. 

 

[Jaybirds]

Getting caught up on this thread, in no particular order. 

I think the two guys DeCosta hinted at are Stanley and Hargreaves.  They're typically considered top 10  value, but none of the teams in front of us have been linked closely to either of them.  I'm sure we'd be happy to take Bosa, but I get the feeling our front office thinks he won't be there. 

I really like the tweener/hybrid OLBs around the 4th round:  Schobert, Ochi, and Yannick.  One of the three should be there for us with at least one of our 4th round picks.  I'm sure it's a lower ceiling than Bosa, Buckner, or Lawson.  But I don't think the first round is our only chance at a legitimate pass rusher.

I like the cornerbacks in the 2nd round, I can see how one of them could get to us.  But I also like the WRs, particularly Doctson.   I'd rather have VH3 and a 2nd round WR than Treadwell and a 2nd round corner. 

So it's risky, but I think VH3 probably sets up our best opportunity for the rest of the draft. 

BUT.... I picked Stanley in the survey because I don't think we'll get a choice.  I think KO leaves via free agency, and I don't think Le'Raven Clark falls to us at 2nd.  I think we're forced into Stanley. 

[jdynamite]

That's how I feel. I have number of WRs that could be there at top of 2nd. Doctson, Boyd, I still don't understand why P.Cooper doesn't get any attention considering he be great on special teams and plays all over the field as a WR. 

 

DB is deep as well.

Ramsey, VH3, E.Apple,M.Alexander, K.Fuller, and Artie Burns ( very underrated as a prospect )

[Jaybirds]

11 minutes ago, jdynamite said:

That's how I feel. I have number of WRs that could be there at top of 2nd. Doctson, Boyd, I still don't understand why P.Cooper doesn't get any attention considering he be great on special teams and plays all over the field as a WR. 

 

DB is deep as well.

Ramsey, VH3, E.Apple,M.Alexander, K.Fuller, and Artie Burns ( very underrated as a prospect )

I think a lot of people here are looking at who will fall to us in the 2nd, so Cooper gets left out.  But I agree with you.  I'd love to have him here.    And then use the third pick on a guy like Xavien Howard or maybe Will Redmond. 

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, Jaybirds said:

Getting caught up on this thread, in no particular order. 

I think the two guys DeCosta hinted at are Stanley and Hargreaves.  They're typically considered top 10  value, but none of the teams in front of us have been linked closely to either of them.  I'm sure we'd be happy to take Bosa, but I get the feeling our front office thinks he won't be there. 

I really like the tweener/hybrid OLBs around the 4th round:  Schobert, Ochi, and Yannick.  One of the three should be there for us with at least one of our 4th round picks.  I'm sure it's a lower ceiling than Bosa, Buckner, or Lawson.  But I don't think the first round is our only chance at a legitimate pass rusher.

I like the cornerbacks in the 2nd round, I can see how one of them could get to us.  But I also like the WRs, particularly Doctson.   I'd rather have VH3 and a 2nd round WR than Treadwell and a 2nd round corner. 

So it's risky, but I think VH3 probably sets up our best opportunity for the rest of the draft. 

BUT.... I picked Stanley in the survey because I don't think we'll get a choice.  I think KO leaves via free agency, and I don't think Le'Raven Clark falls to us at 2nd.  I think we're forced into Stanley. 

Leraven Clark is trash so i doubt we have to worry about him not falling to us and I also don't think the ravens would want him until at least the 4th

[Jaybirds]

4 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Leraven Clark is trash so i doubt we have to worry about him not falling to us and I also don't think the ravens would want him until at least the 4th

Okay, cool.  Then you think there are even fewer guys who could play left tackle Game 1 for us than I do.   Goes to show it's not a deep position if we end up needing an immediate starter. 

[BmoreBird22]

PFF released a new mock that went...

1. Ramsey

2. Goff

3. Buckner

4. Bosa 

5. Jack

6. Tunsil

[Jacquouille]

Saw that too, and I usually don't trust PFF but that scenario doesn't seem that crazy.

[PolishRifle]

36 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

PFF released a new mock that went...

1. Ramsey

2. Goff

3. Buckner

4. Bosa 

5. Jack

6. Tunsil

I still don't think the Browns will pick a QB just because they need one. They have been doing it for years. That's not how they will get out of their hole. Wentz and Goff are not sure enough picks to be drafted in the top 5.

[JoeyFlex5]

52 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

Okay, cool.  Then you think there are even fewer guys who could play left tackle Game 1 for us than I do.   Goes to show it's not a deep position if we end up needing an immediate starter. 

it's actually one of the best groups in The class but value wise we seem to be in a bad spot. If spriggs falls to our 2nd then he's a great pick and probably a stud pass blocker, Denver Kirkland in the 3rd and Dahl in the 4th could be year 2 or 3 starters with some work, German ifedi is a stud if he can work on the unintentional holding, but as far as the first 2 rounds we are just in an unfortunate spot If we're looking for a tackle lol

[JoeyFlex5]

24 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Saw that too, and I usually don't trust PFF but that scenario doesn't seem that crazy.

It wouldn't be THAT crazy if the chargers weren't passing on tunsil. That just isn't gonna happen

[January J]

19 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

It wouldn't be THAT crazy if the chargers weren't passing on tunsil. That just isn't gonna happen

I agree To an Extent but I still see a scenario where tunsil Could make it to us.

1)Bosa

2)Goff

3)Ramsey

4)Wentz/Buckner/Jack

5)Jack/Buckner

I Agree that sd Is likely to take tunsil but with weddle Otw Out and ramsey performing like he did at the combine I wouldnt Put it passed them.

Edited March 3, 2016 by January J