[News] Late For Work 3/1: Ravens Narrowed List To Two Players For No. 6 Pick

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[BmoreB]

Bosa at #6, it's a lock !

[ALI624]

Probably down to VH3 and Bosa and I think Bosa is going to the Cowboys.

[jravens13]

I think the two they have narrowed it down to is likely dependent on 2 QB's going in the top 5. Or KO not resigning with us. What if a QB needy team offers us the ranch for the No.6 pick to get in front of SF and take Goff? That might be the biggest question mark in this draft. I can't wait to see how this all plays out.

Edited March 1, 2016 by jravens13

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

Assuming the titans take Bosa,the browns take a QB and the chargers take Tunsil,we need to attempt to trade our first and third round pick to the cowboys for Ramsey.I had given up on the idea of him after we landed just out of the top 5,but after his combine performance yesterday,he's worth the 1 or 2 extra picks it would take to get him.There's no way he won't hit the ground running as a rookie and become a pro bowler.He's the second biggest sure thing in this draft.I'd even be ok with us having to go as high as our 1st,3rd and a future 5th if the cowboys really wanted to be stubborn about it.

[ludy51]

I'd trade a third for ramsey to move up to get him

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

The best secondaries in the league have won the SB the past 3 years and our secondary is GARBAGE as is.We need a SB caliber secondary.We need Ramsey!

[bioLarzen]

Assuming the titans take Bosa,the browns take a QB and the chargers take Tunsil,we need to attempt to trade our first and third round pick to the cowboys for Ramsey.I had given up on the idea of him after we landed just out of the top 5,but after his combine performance yesterday,he's worth the 1 or 2 extra picks it would take to get him.There's no way he won't hit the ground running as a rookie and become a pro bowler.He's the second biggest sure thing in this draft.I'd even be ok with us having to go as high as our 1st,3rd and a future 5th if the cowboys really wanted to be stubborn about it.

At last someone with an understanding of the trade value chart :D

I don't think Ozzie would give up his third round pick for Ramsey in such a situation - but at least it would be a fair trade offer - we should even get DAL's one current low-round pick (6th round) and we would still be generous :)

[757RavensFan]

So is KO stating that he only wants to play at the guard position?  If so, if he accepts the Ravens offer

and plays at guard, we would also have to keep Monroe and his salary to secure the LT spot. 

[bioLarzen]

Somehow I'm inclined to think that Ozzie will once again take the least sexy pick - is this case Myles Jack And if i happens, Bosa will better be gone by then, because if Ozzie picks Jack with Bosa still on the board, Baltimore is gonna riot...

Edited March 1, 2016 by bioLarzen

[bioLarzen]

4 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

So is KO stating that he only wants to play at the guard position?  If so, if he accepts the Ravens offer

and plays at guard, we would also have to keep Monroe and his salary to secure the LT spot. 

I think it's more his camp realizing no NFL team will offer him pure LT money based on his 4 games at the position. He showed that he COULD BE a good LT - but it was way too little time to prove he already IS one. It was more of a preview.

I think whoever gets him will get him as a (top paid) G.

Edited March 1, 2016 by bioLarzen

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

6 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

At last someone with an understanding of the trade value chart

I don't think Ozzie would give up his third round pick for Ramsey in such a situation - but at least it would be a fair trade offer - we should even get DAL's one current low-round pick (6th round) and we would still be generous

Yeah,I  found out about the draft trade value chart a few years ago and I've been calculating imaginary drafts trade scenarios ever since.

Edited March 1, 2016 by HomeoftheBRAVENS

[757RavensFan]

4 minutes ago, bioLarzen said:

Somehow I'm inclined to think that Ozzie will once again take the least sexy pick - is this case Myles Jack And if i happens, Bosa will better be gone by then, because if Ozzie picks Jack with Bosa still on the board, Baltimore is gonna riot...

I would say Stanley would be the least sexy pick.  

[rmcjacket23]

18 minutes ago, 757RavensFan said:

So is KO stating that he only wants to play at the guard position?  If so, if he accepts the Ravens offer

and plays at guard, we would also have to keep Monroe and his salary to secure the LT spot. 

If he only wants to play Guard, I don't even see the Ravens offering him a contract.

[fusuymada]

Good Luck to KO and it was nice having him. He has missed some time due to injuries where Yanda played through them. To think KO is worth more than Yanda is insane. If he thinks he deserves to get more than Yanda he is a confused soul. The money the Ravens will pay him will be to play tackle, and will be paid more than the highest paid guard as tackles typically are. But no way does he get paid that money to play guard in Baltimore. We still have Monroe out at left tackle and Jensen and Urschel both are more than capable of playing starting left guard. I still am on board with the trade up with SD and get Ramsey and come back into the first round and grab one of the defensive linemen who are sure to drop due to the number of talented pass rushers. I think with as rare as it is that we pick this high at 6, we should spend a few draft picks we have accumulated to move up even further to 3. Never again will the Ravens have a shot at the third pick in the draft, especially with the type of talent that Ramsey has in that spot. He could be the future Ed Reed. If we want to grab Ramsey as a safety and William Jackson to play corner in the second and we go from one of the worst to one of the best secondaries in the league. We can still get some pass rushing help in the third round if necessary.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

I get the feeling KO is gonna stay. The fact KO is asking for top G money is not to say he won't play LT, but that he is basically aware he doesn't have a lot of film to see how good he really can be at LT. I think for a lot of teams only having limited film to watch on him at LT may be holding some team back from making offers. If a team needs a LT and they are going to pay big dollars for one, they are going to need to be very certain about the ability or the offer won't come. I think KO can be that solid, given a little time to adjust. If he stays he will become LT and Jensen will fill LG making for a very solid o-line.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Somehow I'm inclined to think that Ozzie will once again take the least sexy pick - is this case Myles Jack And if i happens, Bosa will better be gone by then, because if Ozzie picks Jack with Bosa still on the board, Baltimore is gonna riot...

You need to go watch film and really study it, Myles Jack is IMHO the best athlete in this years draft class. He is very much like Ramsey where the natural ability and instincts set them apart and allow for them to play multiple positions. Hardest part for Jack is what position best suits him and his skills. Personally I don't think you worry about that at all. Draft him and really work him out in training camp to see how to best use his talents. I would lean towards ILB or even possibly, slot corner or FS is certain packages. Versatility give coaches options and opposition nightmares. I do belive he could develop his pass rush more, possibly coming off the edge from as CB or S or inside rushes but that will take a bit of time. His coverage skills are great allowing him to really cover anyone reliably well. Bosa while good, is just not quite at that level but he is a solid player. Lots of hype being the next JJ Watt but be serious for a second, the greats do not come out every year. I see, Tunsil going #1 (Titans), Wentz #2 (Browns), Ramsey #3 (Chargers), Bosa #4 (Cowboys), Hargreaves #5 (Jaguars) and Jack #6 Ravens. If somehow Ramsey falls to #6 he would be the pick only due to being a team need. Both Ramsey and Jack are above average athletes and competitors.

[cobrajet]

Somehow I'm inclined to think that Ozzie will once again take the least sexy pick - is this case Myles Jack And if i happens, Bosa will better be gone by then, because if Ozzie picks Jack with Bosa still on the board, Baltimore is gonna riot...

We really could use Myles Jack's speed on defense. I think a lot of fans actually prefer Jack over Bosa. I would not have a problem with either one.

[cobrajet]

IMHO Ramsey has elevated himself to the best player in the draft. I really wish now we were drafting a little higher.

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, ALI624 said:

Probably down to VH3 and Bosa and I think Bosa is going to the Cowboys.

I think Jack is in the conversation as well if the Cowboys take Bosa.

[ALI624]

Just now, RavensDieHard21 said:

I think Jack is in the conversation as well if the Cowboys take Bosa.

Possibly, but I thin the Jags take him because I think they sign a CB in free agency.

[RavensDieHard21]

48 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Good Luck to KO and it was nice having him. He has missed some time due to injuries where Yanda played through them. To think KO is worth more than Yanda is insane. If he thinks he deserves to get more than Yanda he is a confused soul. The money the Ravens will pay him will be to play tackle, and will be paid more than the highest paid guard as tackles typically are. But no way does he get paid that money to play guard in Baltimore. We still have Monroe out at left tackle and Jensen and Urschel both are more than capable of playing starting left guard. I still am on board with the trade up with SD and get Ramsey and come back into the first round and grab one of the defensive linemen who are sure to drop due to the number of talented pass rushers. I think with as rare as it is that we pick this high at 6, we should spend a few draft picks we have accumulated to move up even further to 3. Never again will the Ravens have a shot at the third pick in the draft, especially with the type of talent that Ramsey has in that spot. He could be the future Ed Reed. If we want to grab Ramsey as a safety and William Jackson to play corner in the second and we go from one of the worst to one of the best secondaries in the league. We can still get some pass rushing help in the third round if necessary.

Ramsey and Jackson would be crazy. I would pray for it to happen, but it all depends on what other teams are willing to give SD. I'd give up a future 2nd rounder and a later pick for 3 spots. Either way I hope we take BPA in first and get Jackson in the second, he literally killed the combine and his tape is impressive, which makes me feel he would look great in purple.

[757RavensFan]

46 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

Good Luck to KO and it was nice having him. He has missed some time due to injuries where Yanda played through them. To think KO is worth more than Yanda is insane. If he thinks he deserves to get more than Yanda he is a confused soul. The money the Ravens will pay him will be to play tackle, and will be paid more than the highest paid guard as tackles typically are. But no way does he get paid that money to play guard in Baltimore. We still have Monroe out at left tackle and Jensen and Urschel both are more than capable of playing starting left guard. I still am on board with the trade up with SD and get Ramsey and come back into the first round and grab one of the defensive linemen who are sure to drop due to the number of talented pass rushers. I think with as rare as it is that we pick this high at 6, we should spend a few draft picks we have accumulated to move up even further to 3. Never again will the Ravens have a shot at the third pick in the draft, especially with the type of talent that Ramsey has in that spot. He could be the future Ed Reed. If we want to grab Ramsey as a safety and William Jackson to play corner in the second and we go from one of the worst to one of the best secondaries in the league. We can still get some pass rushing help in the third round if necessary.

Do you know how much we would have to give up to trade up to three and THEN trade from the 2nd round to the late 1st round?

Yeah, that's not happening.  

[RavensDieHard21]

6 minutes ago, ALI624 said:

Possibly, but I thin the Jags take him because I think they sign a CB in free agency.

They sure could afford to pay two of them in FA lol. So much cap space it is crazy.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I think the pick is either Bosa, Buckner or Jack. Depends on what the Jags do.

[RavensDieHard21]

The three obvious players could be Jack, Buckner and Hargreaves. I think that we are all tricking ourselves with mock drafts, Tunsil goes first, Cleveland will take Goff, SD cannot pass on Ramsey, then it gets interesting Dallas has options and I think they would benefit more from Jack, but Jerry loves hyped up players and with Greg Hardy leaving, he will take Bosa, which then leads to the Jags either placing more emphasis on their pass rush or their secondary. From what I seen, their secondary is in much worse shape, but could be masked by a good front and some additions in free agency. The logical pick would be Hargreaves, but I'll say they go Buckner to give them a great rush with Fowler coming back. The last two standing are VH3 and Jack, whom are both considered day 1 starters and the safest picks in the draft at their positions. I would be stoked either way, but I would then hope we got Jackson if we took Jack because he looks like a true corner with  a very high ceiling. His critics have only said he needs more strength, which is easy to obtain in the pros with all of the resources. His measurements are more than ideal, he is quick, has great recovery speed, fluid hips, instinctive and has above average ball skills, sounds like a great pick to me if he lasts.

[billiejean]

  1 hour ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

Assuming the titans take Bosa,the browns take a QB and the chargers take Tunsil,we need to attempt to trade our first and third round pick to the cowboys for Ramsey.I had given up on the idea of him after we landed just out of the top 5,but after his combine performance yesterday,he's worth the 1 or 2 extra picks it would take to get him.There's no way he won't hit the ground running as a rookie and become a pro bowler.He's the second biggest sure thing in this draft.I'd even be ok with us having to go as high as our 1st,3rd and a future 5th if the cowboys really wanted to be stubborn about it.

At last someone with an understanding of the trade value chart :D

I don't think Ozzie would give up his third round pick for Ramsey in such a situation - but at least it would be a fair trade offer - we should even get DAL's one current low-round pick (6th round) and we would still be generous :)

I admittedly have know idea how to use the draft chart, but I was wondering hypothetically, what it would cost us to move from our spot in the second to lets say 25. I don't think this is a good or even a feasible move , but I just want to know how much we would have to give up.

[CodeSpyder]

As much as I like Ramsey, a lot, I think we need a pass rusher more.

[CodeSpyder]

As much as I like Ramsey, a lot, I think we need a pass rusher more.

I wouldn't be upset, however, if we did move up to grab Ramsey.

[BirdWatcher]

Stay strong, Torrey.  Many people are sending their prayers.