[News] Analysts Predict Joe Flacco Contract Outcome

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The Ravens are working towards an extension with their franchise quarterback before free agency.

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[WNC-Raven]

I must be in the minority because I am sick of hearing how Joe has all of the leverage. If Joe is the competitor that I think he is then helping the team to free up money so they can put a better team on the field is leverage of a sort. Sure he can refuse for whatever reason but at the end of the day he will be stuck in Baltimore for 3 miserable years getting his butt pounded every Sunday because he has no one to block for him and no one to throw to. What am I missing? Oh and no more commercials or fan love. I know it doesnt matter because they will most likely agree to an extension this week but what gives?

[purpledown]

It will get done, hopefully Flacco can begin to look "elite" next season and stay healthy too.

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, WNC-Raven said:

I must be in the minority because I am sick of hearing how Joe has all of the leverage. If Joe is the competitor that I think he is then helping the team to free up money so they can put a better team on the field is leverage of a sort. Sure he can refuse for whatever reason but at the end of the day he will be stuck in Baltimore for 3 miserable years getting his butt pounded every Sunday because he has no one to block for him and no one to throw to. What am I missing? Oh and no more commercials or fan love. I know it doesnt matter because they will most likely agree to an extension this week but what gives?

Well, let's be realistic here. He's probably going to have four pretty good lineman returning to block for him, and he will have Steve Smith, Aiken, and Perriman, who for all we know could light the world on fire.

And none of that is affected whatsoever by his contract. It's certainly not an awesome lineup of assets, but let's stop pretending it's complete garbage either.

He had less to work with last season and the offense still was pretty good.

AND that's all excluding anybody we obtain in the draft, which again, is unaffected by Joe's contract. Life ain't that bad for Joe if no deal gets done.

Edited March 1, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[Bohica5]

23-25 since our last Superbowl victory............how long do you want joe as our qb??

[slowboater]

15 minutes ago, Bohica5 said:

23-25 since our last Superbowl victory............how long do you want joe as our qb??

So now, the Ravens' record is Joe's fault? You are joking, right?

[bioLarzen]

23-25 since our last Superbowl victory............how long do you want joe as our qb??

Oh my... You can't be serious.

[PalmBayRaven]

  30 minutes ago, Bohica5 said:

23-25 since our last Superbowl victory............how long do you want joe as our qb??

So now, the Ravens' record is Joe's fault? You are joking, right?

He needs to own some of it with those back foot lobs and interceptions.

[PalmBayRaven]

Joe just needs to play better than he did last year. I expected more and got so much less. Seemed he forgot basic mechanics? Won't be able to blame a new coordinator or new system this year. Plus he needs to spread the ball around and not just his favorites like trying the open man. How can you over throw/under throw 6'6" receivers? Darren Waller several times last year.

[PalmBayRaven]

  2 hours ago, WNC-Raven said:

I must be in the minority because I am sick of hearing how Joe has all of the leverage. If Joe is the competitor that I think he is then helping the team to free up money so they can put a better team on the field is leverage of a sort. Sure he can refuse for whatever reason but at the end of the day he will be stuck in Baltimore for 3 miserable years getting his butt pounded every Sunday because he has no one to block for him and no one to throw to. What am I missing? Oh and no more commercials or fan love. I know it doesnt matter because they will most likely agree to an extension this week but what gives?

Well, let's be realistic here. He's probably going to have four pretty good lineman returning to block for him, and he will have Steve Smith, Aiken, and Perriman, who for all we know could light the world on fire.

And none of that is affected whatsoever by his contract. It's certainly not an awesome lineup of assets, but let's stop pretending it's complete garbage either.

He had less to work with last season and the offense still was pretty good.

AND that's all excluding anybody we obtain in the draft, which again, is unaffected by Joe's contract. Life ain't that bad for Joe if no deal gets done.

Isn't that what they said last year? We had our whole line returning and it was going to be one of our strengths? Why we were predicted to go so far but fell so hard. If Joe is only comfortable throwing to a couple WR's it won't matter who we draft period. He will be 9 year veteran this year and I expect him to play as such otherwise we are better off without him. We can get someone cheaper to play how he played last year.

[rmcjacket23]

11 minutes ago, PalmBayRaven said:

Isn't that what they said last year? We had our whole line returning and it was going to be one of our strengths? Why we were predicted to go so far but fell so hard. If Joe is only comfortable throwing to a couple WR's it won't matter who we draft period. He will be 9 year veteran this year and I expect him to play as such otherwise we are better off without him. We can get someone cheaper to play how he played last year.

Well, yeah, that is what they said last year. But then again, offensive production from healthy players wasn't the problem last season.

We fell so hard because like our top 5-6 offensive players missed half the season or longer and our defense was garbage for over half a season.

That's how you fall so hard.

And sure you could get somebody cheaper to play like that. The difference is that would be the best said cheaper option could play, whereas we know how good the best Joe is.

[rmcjacket23]

26 minutes ago, PalmBayRaven said:

Joe just needs to play better than he did last year. I expected more and got so much less. Seemed he forgot basic mechanics? Won't be able to blame a new coordinator or new system this year. Plus he needs to spread the ball around and not just his favorites like trying the open man. How can you over throw/under throw 6'6" receivers? Darren Waller several times last year.

Really doesn't matter how tall somebody like Waller is. Steve Smith plays taller than him.

Heights really overrated when you have no idea how to use it.

[ALPHA]

Without Joe we would have a record like the Browns

[Ravenous_Ravens]

23-25 since our last Superbowl victory............how long do you want joe as our qb??

Fair weather fans do not have the right to complain.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

  1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

  3 hours ago, WNC-Raven said:

I must be in the minority because I am sick of hearing how Joe has all of the leverage. If Joe is the competitor that I think he is then helping the team to free up money so they can put a better team on the field is leverage of a sort. Sure he can refuse for whatever reason but at the end of the day he will be stuck in Baltimore for 3 miserable years getting his butt pounded every Sunday because he has no one to block for him and no one to throw to. What am I missing? Oh and no more commercials or fan love. I know it doesnt matter because they will most likely agree to an extension this week but what gives?

Well, let's be realistic here. He's probably going to have four pretty good lineman returning to block for him, and he will have Steve Smith, Aiken, and Perriman, who for all we know could light the world on fire.

And none of that is affected whatsoever by his contract. It's certainly not an awesome lineup of assets, but let's stop pretending it's complete garbage either.

He had less to work with last season and the offense still was pretty good.

AND that's all excluding anybody we obtain in the draft, which again, is unaffected by Joe's contract. Life ain't that bad for Joe if no deal gets done.

Isn't that what they said last year? We had our whole line returning and it was going to be one of our strengths? Why we were predicted to go so far but fell so hard. If Joe is only comfortable throwing to a couple WR's it won't matter who we draft period. He will be 9 year veteran this year and I expect him to play as such otherwise we are better off without him. We can get someone cheaper to play how he played last year.

I guess losing key players at a regular pace all season did not have any affect on the ability to win games. The Ravens did not have any close games either, they were were completely one sided games, every single one all season long. What kool-aid flavor do you drink? STOP IT

[Bohica5]

  1 hour ago, Bohica5 said:

23-25 since our last Superbowl victory............how long do you want joe as our qb??

Fair weather fans do not have the right to complain.

so 23-25 is good with you.......good to know ur ok with a loser....

[PalmBayRaven]

  57 minutes ago, PalmBayRaven said:

  1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

  3 hours ago, WNC-Raven said:

I must be in the minority because I am sick of hearing how Joe has all of the leverage. If Joe is the competitor that I think he is then helping the team to free up money so they can put a better team on the field is leverage of a sort. Sure he can refuse for whatever reason but at the end of the day he will be stuck in Baltimore for 3 miserable years getting his butt pounded every Sunday because he has no one to block for him and no one to throw to. What am I missing? Oh and no more commercials or fan love. I know it doesnt matter because they will most likely agree to an extension this week but what gives?

Well, let's be realistic here. He's probably going to have four pretty good lineman returning to block for him, and he will have Steve Smith, Aiken, and Perriman, who for all we know could light the world on fire.

And none of that is affected whatsoever by his contract. It's certainly not an awesome lineup of assets, but let's stop pretending it's complete garbage either.

He had less to work with last season and the offense still was pretty good.

AND that's all excluding anybody we obtain in the draft, which again, is unaffected by Joe's contract. Life ain't that bad for Joe if no deal gets done.

Isn't that what they said last year? We had our whole line returning and it was going to be one of our strengths? Why we were predicted to go so far but fell so hard. If Joe is only comfortable throwing to a couple WR's it won't matter who we draft period. He will be 9 year veteran this year and I expect him to play as such otherwise we are better off without him. We can get someone cheaper to play how he played last year.

I guess losing key players at a regular pace all season did not have any affect on the ability to win games. The Ravens did not have any close games either, they were were completely one sided games, every single one all season long. What kool-aid flavor do you drink? STOP IT

What happened to being one of the best conditioned teams in the NFL? Nobody but nobody works harder than us yadda, yadda... Yet we have lead the league in injuries the last few years. I did drink the kool aid by the way and feel deceived. Not going lie to you, I felt for sure Flacco was going to have his best year ever last year. I saw maturity in him and then the season started and back foot throws killed me. I bleed purple win or lose but hate losing. I'm rooting for Darren Waller this year to shine and hope can find him.

[ellicottraven]

It almost seems to me that everybody is reconciled to another top 5 contract for Joe Flacco. If we pay him over 20M annually over 6 yrs again, how are we going to field a good team around him. When Joe said he would like to help out the team any way he could, I didn't expect him to sign a ton of money away either. I just expect him to accept the money the Ravens pay him based on his production since the SB. He was rewarded with the richest NFL contract when he won the SB and deservedly so. He won the SB! But, over the past 3 yrs, he's not played to his potential (even if I used every excuse I could on his behalf). So, Joe accept a deal that is the average of the top 10 QBs' a year which amounts to the money a transition tag player is paid every year for the next 6-7 yrs, with at least 4 of those yrs guaranteed. Work on increasing your guaranteed money but don't expect to be paid like a top 5 QB again. Help us out Joe.

[ALPHA]

$20M a year is the going rate for a proven franchise QB thats just how the market is, if we don't meet that market another team will and do you know what happens to us? we get some cap space but spend another 10-15 years looking for a franchise QB.

[SuRihtanil]

$20M a year is the going rate for a proven franchise QB thats just how the market is, if we don't meet that market another team will and do you know what happens to us? we get some cap space but spend another 10-15 years looking for a franchise QB.

Mean while Tom Brady makes 9 million in 2016 and possible he goes to another superbowl. Joe Flacco needs to accept ballpark 15mil so Ravens can get talent.

[rmcjacket23]

6 minutes ago, SuRihtanil said:

Mean while Tom Brady makes 9 million in 2016 and possible he goes to another superbowl. Joe Flacco needs to accept ballpark 15mil so Ravens can get talent.

Just like you would right?

Wrong.

[rmcjacket23]

2 hours ago, Bohica5 said:

so 23-25 is good with you.......good to know ur ok with a loser....

Sometimes fans get what they deserve...

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

It almost seems to me that everybody is reconciled to another top 5 contract for Joe Flacco. If we pay him over 20M annually over 6 yrs again, how are we going to field a good team around him. When Joe said he would like to help out the team any way he could, I didn't expect him to sign a ton of money away either. I just expect him to accept the money the Ravens pay him based on his production since the SB. He was rewarded with the richest NFL contract when he won the SB and deservedly so. He won the SB! But, over the past 3 yrs, he's not played to his potential (even if I used every excuse I could on his behalf). So, Joe accept a deal that is the average of the top 10 QBs' a year which amounts to the money a transition tag player is paid every year for the next 6-7 yrs, with at least 4 of those yrs guaranteed. Work on increasing your guaranteed money but don't expect to be paid like a top 5 QB again. Help us out Joe.

Lol, just so you are aware, an average of the top 10 QBs would pay him about $20M a year. There's 9 QBs making at least $20M a year.

Also, he's not getting 4 guaranteed years. That'd be at least $80M guaranteed...by far the highest in the league.

[hen826957]

@Ravenous_Ravens "The Ravens did not have any close games either, they were were completely one sided games, every single one all season long" didn't they had a lot of close games that they lost last season. Mostly have the games they lost was by one score or less. They could've easily be undefeated if some of play calling was on point and Dean Pees mess and John Harbaugh calls.

[PolishRifle]

6 hours ago, Bohica5 said:

23-25 since our last Superbowl victory............how long do you want joe as our qb??

Which isn't bad after a major exodus of talent and only 2 drafts, where the Ravens pick high (2014 and this year). I'd like to remind you that we were in the AFC Divisional Playoffs in 2014 and came very close to beating the eventual SB champions.

[allblackraven]

6 hours ago, Bohica5 said:

so 23-25 is good with you.......good to know ur ok with a loser....

Flacco neither won nor lost any games. It was a team.

Your hatred is boring. At least try to be accurate with numbers - since SB win, Ravens are 21-21 in regular season and 1-1 in playoffs when Flacco played.

[20306cab]

Any article about Flacco is sure to get the excuse machine turned to full speed. Average Joe has been less than that the last three years, and if not for a major gift from KC two years ago, the Ravens would have missed the playoffs for three years in a row for the first time since 2000. Seems to me he got his ring and his $, and he's satisfied. There's been nothing but regression since '12.

[usmccharles]

11 hours ago, Bohica5 said:

23-25 since our last Superbowl victory............how long do you want joe as our qb??

We have one losing season with Joe as our QB in 8 years.  So if you told me he plays 16 years and we have 2 losing seasons by the law of average, yea im good with that. 

I feel like Sami84 has made a return in this thread

[rmcjacket23]

55 minutes ago, 20306cab said:

Any article about Flacco is sure to get the excuse machine turned to full speed. Average Joe has been less than that the last three years, and if not for a major gift from KC two years ago, the Ravens would have missed the playoffs for three years in a row for the first time since 2000. Seems to me he got his ring and his $, and he's satisfied. There's been nothing but regression since '12.

Well except for 2014, which was the best year of his career.

[whobilly]

  8 hours ago, SuRihtanil said:

Mean while Tom Brady makes 9 million in 2016 and possible he goes to another superbowl. Joe Flacco needs to accept ballpark 15mil so Ravens can get talent.

Just like you would right?

Wrong.

Brady's wife makes 40 mill a year so he can take less(haha)