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"Worst" Case Scenario

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So, let's say your top 5 players for us gets picked before us(ignore the top 5 teams' needs).  Who is gone and who would you like for us to pick at 6th?  No trade backs in this hypothetical world.  How happy would you be in this scenario? 

For me: Tunsil, Bosa, Buckner, Jack, and Ramsey all gone.  I don't have another guy that I love this early in the draft, but I'll pick Vernon Hargreaves III.  I'm not sure how good the top corners are at playing zone, but they look good playing man-to-man.  I'd still be happy with the pick as I think he would immediately contribute to an area that has plagued us for several seasons now. 

 

 

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I would be absolutely fine with vh3 or Shaq lawson, i now feel convinced we will find a great player at 6th and we may not find who we WANT but we will find a player we NEED and at a good value. 

 

edit: forgot buckner. Him too.

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I would echo the first two posts, and say worst case scenario is Bosa, Tunsil, Ramsey, Jack, Buckner all coming off the board before us and we take Stanley.

If the draft unfolds like that, I would be praying for a trade back and hope to pick up Shaq Lawson,  Noah Spence, Hargreaves or Treadwell.

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Yeah that would be the worst case scenario and a sneak peak of what the updated who should we choose at #6 thread will look like

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If Stanley is the "worst" that can happen to us than we're in a pretty good spot. Stanley looked great in the combine and will fix the tackle position for us for the rest of Joe's career and beyond. This draft also has a really deep CB class. We can get someone really good in the 2nd or 3rd easy, imho.

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Worst case scenario: Bosa, Buckner, Ramsey, Jack, and Tunsil are gone. The Ravens take Shaq Lawson and still get a successor to Suggs. Not a bad deal.

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7 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Worst case scenerio would be Buckner, he's the most overrated prospect in years.

Are you being serious? I'd almost venture to say he's best case scenario....

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51 minutes ago, January J said:

Are you being serious? I'd almost venture to say he's best case scenario....

Same here we finally get some kind of interior pass rush. 

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1 hour ago, Cillmatic said:

Worst case scenerio would be Buckner, he's the most overrated prospect in years.

You''re absolutely crazy

1 hour ago, January J said:

Are you being serious? I'd almost venture to say he's best case scenario....

Exactly

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3 hours ago, Davesta said:

Worst case is we lose KO to FA and have to spend the 1st pick on Stanley 

I actually agree with this in a sense.  I wouldn't mind Stanley,  but I'd like him and KO together.  Bc if KO leaves and we take Stanley its like we are staying par.  That could be an beginning to a dominant oline

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I don't think we re sign ko to play guard. We Are offering LT money to play LT for us, in which case we pass on Stanley and Jensen or urschel start at G

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2 hours ago, Cillmatic said:

Worst case scenerio would be Buckner, he's the most overrated prospect in years.

Preach to the choir brother!!!

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If/when we lose KO in free agency, the O line has got to be the first priority. Stanley would have to be the pick at 6 and that would be the worst case scenario.

If we were to lose KO and not pick Stanley, we would already have a major downgrade at G. Also would be putting all of our eggs into hoping Monroe doesn't get injured. Which we all know he would.

Flacco would be running for his life. And on a surgically repaired knee. That scenario would be the worst case and there's a very realistic chance it happens.

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1 ) We trade such a high pick and I have to sit around until day two, to see our first pick.

2)  We don't get Cyrus Jones,Sterling Sheppard, and Scooby Wright in rounds 2 through 4, because KO walks and we need OL help.

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I think most worst case scenarios would involve Cleveland taking (or trading down for someone to take) a non-QB, which seems unlikely. I think this draft is deep, but there aren't going to be any can't miss prospects. At this point, I would consider the top guys to be Ramsey and Tunsil and I am assuming that neither of these guys is going to be there at 6. I think Tunsil is going to an option for TEN, SD or JAX while Ramsey is an option for TEN, CLE, SD, DAL or JAX. I'm putting Tunsil and Ramsey at 1/2 because they fit every scheme and are extremely unlikely to fall. 

So far the draft looks like this: 

TEN- Laremy Tunsil

CLE- Jalen Ramsey

SD on the clock

I would put the next tier for Buckner, Myles Jack, Ronnie Stanley and Joey Bosa. SD is likely going to be considering Buckner, Stanley and Jack. So I'm going under 3 separate situations. 

Scenario 1: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Buckner; 

Scenario 2: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Stanley; 

Scenario 3: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; 

DAL on the clock

I think DAL would probably have Ramsey. Jack and Bosa high and in that order.

Scenario 1: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Buckner; DAL- Jack

Scenario 2: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Stanley; DAL- Jack

Scenario 3: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; DAL- Bosa

JAX on the clock

JAX priority order probably mirrors so in Scenario 1 and 2, they take Bosa. This leaves JAX at the short end of the stick with Buckner and Stanley probably not high on their list (JAX has invested a decent amount of money/draft picks at OT (Joeckel and Parnell) and interior DL (Marks, Odrick, and Miller). I would see JAX desperately trying to trade out here for someone going for Buckner or Stanley- splitting possibilities again. Leaving BAL in 4 worst case scenarios. 

1: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Buckner; DAL- Jack; JAX- Bosa

2: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Stanley; DAL- Jack; JAX- Bosa

3: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; DAL- Bosa; ???- Stanley

4. TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; DAL- Bosa; ???- Buckner

So in this case the Ravens most likely options are: (1) Taking Stanley, (2) Trading Down, (3) Taking Buckner. Trading down in this scenario would not be likely because SF sitting behind the Ravens is not likely to draft a OT or a DE/DT. So this depends on if KO resigns or not. If he does then Ravens likely take Buckner and if he doesn't then the Ravens likely take Stanley. 

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I would have to say picking Stanley would be the WCS as well. We just can't afford on missing out on a play-maker with our first two picks. K.O is offered LT money right now, I don't see why he plays guard. 

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Just wondering are there any LTs that we can sign considering we are offering 10 million or so to KO? Just a thought.

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3 minutes ago, ALI624 said:

Just wondering are there any LTs that we can sign considering we are offering 10 million or so to KO? Just a thought.

I don't know if there are any out there worth resigning. I can imagine us targeting Stanley or Spriggs in the 2nd rather than signing a LT. We could sign one, it wouldn't be awful, I believe we won the SB with Bryant McKinnie who was our LT, granted he was awful the next year. 

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1 minute ago, ALI624 said:

Just wondering are there any LTs that we can sign considering we are offering 10 million or so to KO? Just a thought.

Jermon Bushrod and William Beatty have both been cut, neither seems to be a remarkable option, but they wouldn't lose a Comp. Pick. Other than that Russell Okung (Too Much money) and Donald Penn (old) are options that would count against comp picks. 

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1 minute ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't know if there are any out there worth resigning. I can imagine us targeting Stanley or Spriggs in the 2nd rather than signing a LT. We could sign one, it wouldn't be awful, I believe we won the SB with Bryant McKinnie who was our LT, granted he was awful the next year. 

Just trying anything to avoid taking Stanley really want a playmaker.

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2 minutes ago, ALI624 said:

Just trying anything to avoid taking Stanley really want a playmaker.

I do as well but what can you do? We are pitted in an awful situation here. You want a play-maker but your QB is returning from a torn ACL partly at fault because of your back-up LT who has been ranked as one of the worst LTs in the league while your starter has a cursed shoulder who has denied a pay-cut btw. 

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2 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I would have to say picking Stanley would be the WCS as well. We just can't afford on missing out on a play-maker with our first two picks. K.O is offered LT money right now, I don't see why he plays guard. 

 

KO needs to be resigned. Not an option. He is the best OLine player on the ravens. Yanda is getting older and history shows big guys decline faster. KO is the most overpowering OLine player in the league and sets the tone for the ravens biggest strength!! The OLine!! If it takes 5 yrs $50 then that is the price. Franchising him would of given some leverage. I would prefer KO to Stanley. KO offers protecting the QB with an edge an intimidating attitude. He and Jensen on that left side is just plain nasty!! Good athletic QB protection and maul opposing lineman better than any rival teams right side of the OLine can which means teams can't guess which side ravens will run. Throw in some playmakers and ravens have the best offense in the league.

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27 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Worst case scenario? Steve Harvey calls the NFL Draft and we end up picking 31st overall.

Please no!! Do not even give the NFL ideas with that. If he called the draft just do away with it and declare all college players free agents.

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44 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Please no!! Do not even give the NFL ideas with that. If he called the draft just do away with it and declare all college players free agents.

I know right? Hey, this thread is "Worst case" scenario, lol.

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5 hours ago, jboy19 said:

I think most worst case scenarios would involve Cleveland taking (or trading down for someone to take) a non-QB, which seems unlikely. I think this draft is deep, but there aren't going to be any can't miss prospects. At this point, I would consider the top guys to be Ramsey and Tunsil and I am assuming that neither of these guys is going to be there at 6. I think Tunsil is going to an option for TEN, SD or JAX while Ramsey is an option for TEN, CLE, SD, DAL or JAX. I'm putting Tunsil and Ramsey at 1/2 because they fit every scheme and are extremely unlikely to fall. 

So far the draft looks like this: 

TEN- Laremy Tunsil

CLE- Jalen Ramsey

SD on the clock

I would put the next tier for Buckner, Myles Jack, Ronnie Stanley and Joey Bosa. SD is likely going to be considering Buckner, Stanley and Jack. So I'm going under 3 separate situations. 

Scenario 1: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Buckner; 

Scenario 2: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Stanley; 

Scenario 3: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; 

DAL on the clock

I think DAL would probably have Ramsey. Jack and Bosa high and in that order.

Scenario 1: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Buckner; DAL- Jack

Scenario 2: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Stanley; DAL- Jack

Scenario 3: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; DAL- Bosa

JAX on the clock

JAX priority order probably mirrors so in Scenario 1 and 2, they take Bosa. This leaves JAX at the short end of the stick with Buckner and Stanley probably not high on their list (JAX has invested a decent amount of money/draft picks at OT (Joeckel and Parnell) and interior DL (Marks, Odrick, and Miller). I would see JAX desperately trying to trade out here for someone going for Buckner or Stanley- splitting possibilities again. Leaving BAL in 4 worst case scenarios. 

1: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Buckner; DAL- Jack; JAX- Bosa

2: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Stanley; DAL- Jack; JAX- Bosa

3: TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; DAL- Bosa; ???- Stanley

4. TEN- Tunsil; CLE- Ramsey; SD- Jack; DAL- Bosa; ???- Buckner

So in this case the Ravens most likely options are: (1) Taking Stanley, (2) Trading Down, (3) Taking Buckner. Trading down in this scenario would not be likely because SF sitting behind the Ravens is not likely to draft a OT or a DE/DT. So this depends on if KO resigns or not. If he does then Ravens likely take Buckner and if he doesn't then the Ravens likely take Stanley. 

A lot of analysis there my friend, we're number 6 and you might have over complicated it. We will take whoever is left from the batch that is one of the elite prospects. Tunsil and Ramsey are undeniably off the table and Bosa depending on the preference of SD, DAL and JAX, most likely will be too. Jack, Buckner, Hargreaves or Stanley will be our pick depending on who is left and our biggest need. I am 1000% on board for Jack or Buckner, which will give our defense an immediate boost, but VH3 or Lawson are great consolation picks too.  

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Worst case scenario is Reggie Ragland.  Purely a BPA pick, we could have him ranked higher than Stanley or Hargreaves.  He doesn't fill a need, but we end up set at MLB and run defense for years to come. Then we unfortunately miss out on the pass rusher and left tackle we were targeting later in the draft.  

No where near as likely as picking Stanley or Hargreave, but more negative impact and still not impossible. 

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