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IN watching the combine I am glad that our greatest needs are on the defensive side. Plenty of good edge rushers, a number of good corners and safeties but if we needed a Qb, wide receiver, tight end or lineman, the quality does not come close to the quantity. I am glad we got Perriman and Maxx Williams last year amid I don't see us taking a offensive tackle early even if KO signs somewhere else because there is always Monroe to fall back on. I think we will do what Ozzie has always done, what he excels at and that is drafting good defensive players. I hope we don't trade back because we rarely get a shot at someone the quality of won't be found later in the draft. My opinion is no secret, SD wants out of the 3 spot, Ramsey would be a lock at 3 and I want to move up and get him. We need a turnover force in the back and he is it.

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4 minutes ago, fusuymada said:

IN watching the combine I am glad that our greatest needs are on the defensive side. Plenty of good edge rushers, a number of good corners and safeties but if we needed a Qb, wide receiver, tight end or lineman, the quality does not come close to the quantity. I am glad we got Perriman and Maxx Williams last year amid I don't see us taking a offensive tackle early even if KO signs somewhere else because there is always Monroe to fall back on. I think we will do what Ozzie has always done, what he excels at and that is drafting good defensive players. I hope we don't trade back because we rarely get a shot at someone the quality of won't be found later in the draft. My opinion is no secret, SD wants out of the 3 spot, Ramsey would be a lock at 3 and I want to move up and get him. We need a turnover force in the back and he is it.

On item 1: I'm not so sure about that anymore. I thought the same thing, but our play for KO and the commentary around that move seems to indicate the team doesn't relish the idea of having to depend on Monroe. 

On item 2: I get the sentiment, but it will really depend on what SD is asking for and whether the FO feels Ramsey is clearly the kind of difference maker that won't be available 3 picks later. Given the stated depth of this draft, we will be very reluctant to give up additional picks and what will be required to move could be cost prohibitive. 

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Sheldon Day from Notre Dame is a guy people should watch. He is an undersized DT, much like Kelly Gregg, but plays like his pants are on fire. His athleticism might allow him to play 3-4 DE. He will be available in the 3rd-4th Round and we could address other positions like CB, OLB, or LT in the first.

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Billiejean, definitely worth it from talent perspective. So I agree, if hes there rnd 2..snatch him up..

I didnt realize B.Williams is up next year, it seems like he was drafted just yesterday. That makes me think DeForest Buckner DT/DE Oregon... may be a viable 3rd or 4th option for Oz if Ramsey is gone, and the 3 big time pass rushers bosa,Spence,Jack

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Please post the videos of interviews with John Harbaugh and now Hortiz. Why aren’t we seeing these interviews? Very disappointing in the coverage for this combine, especially being told that every single person is out at the combine. The fans deserve better than 2 min interviews with a few analysts in my view.

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I think we still have a shot at Bosa. If he's off the board at #6 I see us taking Hargreaves. Longshot but another possibility, Treadwell.

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Bosa didn't look so hot. Not sure if I would pick him based on the Combine? WR's were slow. Our 6th round pick last year Darren Waller was almost as fast as the fastest time this year.

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Seems like a pretty poor draft to me and DeCosta/Hortiz are just being diplomatic, shame it's the one year we're actually picking high. I'm sure we'll still get a good haul though.

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PalmbayRaven, Bosa had same measurables as JJ Watt. You gotta watch the tape on most of these players. Not saying hes going to be a lock HOFR 3x DPOY but if Bosa is half as good as Watt and the player the tape shows he'll be a multi time pro bowl player..franchise cornerstone.

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The Combine, really is about finding those diamonds in the rough...like a Stefon Diggs, or a Lockett for Seattle.. The first round talents aslong as the measurables are not way off what tape says.. they wont fall to much. Remember Sizzle ran slow way back when, but he turned out the best rusher everyone thought he was. And a possible HOF career. Difference between track speed, and football, pads on speed

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Seems like a pretty poor draft to me and DeCosta/Hortiz are just being diplomatic, shame it's the one year we're actually picking high. I'm sure we'll still get a good haul though.

Actually I think the opposite is true. Where we pick at #6 we are going to find at least one impact player for sure. I think there are at least 15-16 high impact players in the draft. After which it kind of fades off into a big congregation of really good players (starter quality) for the next 30-45 players. So, I think this is a really good draft for the first 3 rounds. So, it would be good to trade up to get 4-5 good picks in the first 60-65 picks.

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This is great news for Ravens fans. Ozzie and DeCosta make music happen with those mid to late rounds. I wouldn't be surprised to see multiple picks in rounds 2-5 via trades.

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3 hours ago, BmoreB said:

I think we still have a shot at Bosa. If he's off the board at #6 I see us taking Hargreaves. Longshot but another possibility, Treadwell.

I would take Ramsey, Bosa, Jack, or Buckner regardless of how they did in the drills at the scouting combine.  The Ravens have made their name on defense and we need to regain our swagger.  Let's just hope that we don't trade down and there is a run on quarterbacks.  As for offense, I think that we could pick up a decent wideout in the top of the second round.

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PalmbayRaven, Bosa had same measurables as JJ Watt. You gotta watch the tape on most of these players. Not saying hes going to be a lock HOFR 3x DPOY but if Bosa is half as good as Watt and the player the tape shows he'll be a multi time pro bowl player..franchise cornerstone.

Hope your right if they pick him? Actually saw an interview with Bosa afterwards and they get up pretty early all week. 5:30 am and 3:30 one morning for drug testing and by the time they get to running the drills their ragged. Could explain it. I liked Forrest Debuckner too.

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Seems like a pretty poor draft to me and DeCosta/Hortiz are just being diplomatic, shame it's the one year we're actually picking high. I'm sure we'll still get a good haul though.

I think that depends on the position. The WR and TE group were pretty slow and the slowest in 11 years. Pretty deep for defensive lineman though. I'm thinking CB #6 pick or Oz can totally shock me and take Ezekiel Elliott or Derick Henry. Henry is a load to bring down in the 4th quarter plus he is a punishing runner.

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Tomorrow is a huge day: DBs. The LB out of Wisconsin Joe Schobert looks really impressive if we could grab him in the later rounds. Watch his tape on Draft Breakdown. He is a playmaker who would help on special teams right away could be groomed to replace Daryl Smith in the long haul.

Bosa definitely checked out today as advertised. Buckner moves incredibly well for a guy his size. I thought there were some really athletic defensive lineman today. We could easily add someone to the rotation in the 2nd or 3rd Round if we don't take Bucker. CB is the position that drops off fast. That is why I still like Hargreaves if Jack and Bosa are gone.

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Food for thought...

Carl Davis DT:
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 320 lbs
Arm: 34 5/8"
40 Time: 5.07 sec
Hands: 11"

DeForest Buckner DE:
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 290
Arm: 34 3/8"
40 Time: 5.05 sec
Hands: 11 3/4"
 

With our staff's love for traits over production, don't be surprised one bit if we trade back and select Emmanuel Ogbah in the 1st. He was moving incredibly well for a guy with his size and length. He probably improved his stock the most today because he showed the explosiveness teams covet, along with the ability to drop in coverage. 

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For all the hype Bosa and Buckner have had, I was expecting a much better combine performance. Their measurables didn't [profanity deleted] away like I was expecting to. They're good but I don't know if they are top 5 good. But, I suppose every year is different.

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I don't know about you guys, but these articles about the NFL Draft starting to get me a headache. It the same article stuff over and over again. Who are we going to pick? Who is the best player in the draft? Etc Etc. We don't know who are we going to pick. It's all going to come down to 4 players that will be a Raven Ramsey, Bosa, Buckner, or Stanley at the number 6 pick. So we don't have to keep talking about it guys one of those players will be a Raven. So lets talk about it during the Draft but l guess we will keep talking about it LOL. :-)

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12 hours ago, BmoreB said:

I think we still have a shot at Bosa. If he's off the board at #6 I see us taking Hargreaves. Longshot but another possibility, Treadwell.

BOSA

 

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6 hours ago, jravens13 said:

Food for thought...
 

With our staff's love for traits over production, don't be surprised one bit if we trade back and select Emmanuel Ogbah in the 1st. He was moving incredibly well for a guy with his size and length. He probably improved his stock the most today because he showed the explosiveness teams covet, along with the ability to drop in coverage. 

Im a Ogbah fan, Think he can be the type of guy we need on that side of the ball.  As much as I would be OK with a trade back, I just don't think the offer will be there, even with a QB needy team.  Still not sure where Ogbah is good value at though. 

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Boza's stock took a hit according to the pundits. Slow 40 time, low vertical, two main factors that show explosiveness or in his case " No Explosiveness off the line".

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