Smoke's Mock 3.0

[CalvinSmoke]

Round 1:

Titans 
LT - Laremy Tunsil: This surprises no one

Browns
QB - Carson Wentz: Give Hugh Jackson a QB with the talent, he'll teach him the game. Much like he helped do with Flacco.

Chargers
DE - Deforest Buckner: The Chargers D-line was one of the worst in football. So they get the best 5-tech in the draft.

Cowboys
CB - Jalen Ramsey: The Cowboy's corners stunk on ice. They start Jalen as a corner and get that defense back on track.

Jaguars
LT - Ronnie Stanley: The Jags had one of the worst tackle combos I've ever seen. They address pass rusher through FA, now they invest in slowing other people's pass rush.

Ravens

LB - Myles Jack
Our inside backers played slow and terribly in coverage. CJ Mosley got exposed, he plays the run well, is a great blitzer but he's not a coverage linebacker. Income Myles, potentially the most talented player in this draft.

 

Round 2:

CB - Kendall Fuller
A completely over confident gambler at corner... Exactly what we need! Our defense needs aggression, and playing next to Jimmy Smith, Pees get's the corners that he likes. Phyiscal zone players. Now we can sit on those short routes and make plays if the pass rush can get there.

 

Round 3:

WR - Pharoh Cooper
Our team needs play makers. We can find role players all day long in FA, we've proven that. Now we grab a potential Randall Cobb, a big play guy. And an explosive kick returner. 

[CalvinSmoke]

Round 4:

C - Jack Allen
Jack isn't much too look at physically, he's not very athletic either. But he's a grinder, and a great football player. He's also a former wrestler, The kind of mauling our team could do with Osemele - Jensen - Allen - Yanda - Wagner. That's a tough bunch of people, Allen shouldn't give us much at year one, but I see him being a great successor to Zuttah when the time comes. 

OLB - Victor Ochi
Vic dominated his competition as he should have if he want's to be drafted of of Stony Brook. He has a nice first step but plays out of control and doesn't bend the edge very well right now. But with time he can be a problem, you can teach technique, but not speed.

Round 5:

CB - Rashard Robinson
Has great traits, just a thin player weighing in at less than 170 pounds and standing at 6'1. His off the field issue allow for a potential steal right here.

[allblackraven]

Why do all LSU DBs must have off the field stuff? Do they teach that at Louisiana State?

I generally like this mock but still living in a hope we address edge rusher with our 1st. I'm also not sure we double-dip on DBs.

[usmccharles]

As everyone knows, as I continue to state it, I love the Myles Jack pick.  I would be extremely happy with this draft.  Where do you have Bosa going?

[CalvinSmoke]

3 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

As everyone knows, as I continue to state it, I love the Myles Jack pick.  I would be extremely happy with this draft.  Where do you have Bosa going?

I got the bucks taking spence and then Joey bosa getting scooped by the Giants at 10.

[usmccharles]

10 minutes ago, CalvinSmoke said:

I got the bucks taking spence and then Joey bosa getting scooped by the Giants at 10.

interesting.  Im not huge on Bosa either, just a hunch I have had.  Do you think its because of the latest issues popping up about him that makes him drop?

[polynesian15]

I wouldn't feel comfortable about our rush with this draft, it's not bad draft though.

[PurpleCity5]

I don't think Jack will be our pick honestly. I like his ability in coverage but should we really pick an ILB this high with other needs on the board? Based on this, should Joey Bosa be there, I really think he should be our pick over Jack no question about it. We should desire Bosa's ability to potentially rush as a OLB/DE hybrid, similar to McPhee who we badly miss. 

[GrimCoconut]

1 minute ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't think Jack will be our pick honestly. I like his ability in coverage but should we really pick an ILB this high with other needs on the board? Based on this, should Joey Bosa be there, I really think he should be our pick over Jack no question about it. We should desire Bosa's ability to potentially rush as a OLB/DE hybrid, similar to McPhee who we badly miss. 

I definitely think that Bosa and Ramsey are our top two realistic choices. If both are gone then that's a different story and it's one where I think Jack becomes logical. 

[Jacquouille]

I like this draft a lot, except for the Fuller pick. I just haven't seen anything good from him, I would rather take WJ3 or a faller at Edge Rusher(maybe Dodd or Floyd with some luck).

 

I particularly like the Jack Allen pick, some depth at OC would be really really nice.

[L.A.Ravens]

4 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't think Jack will be our pick honestly. I like his ability in coverage but should we really pick an ILB this high with other needs on the board? Based on this, should Joey Bosa be there, I really think he should be our pick over Jack no question about it. We should desire Bosa's ability to potentially rush as a OLB/DE hybrid, similar to McPhee who we badly miss. 

Yea there's no way we're not taking Joey Bosa if he's there at 6.

[PurpleCity5]

5 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I definitely think that Bosa and Ramsey are our top two realistic choices. If both are gone then that's a different story and it's one where I think Jack becomes logical. 

I think there's a good chance Bosa, Ramsey and Buckner should and will land to us, under the assumption that Tunsil is gone and Cleveland goes QB. I would take any of the three over Jack. 

[PurpleCity5]

43 minutes ago, L.A.Ravens said:

Yea there's no way we're not taking Joey Bosa if he's there at 6.

There have been people growing salty of him lately but I agree, I think we have to take him if he's there.

[ravensnation5220]

6 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't think Jack will be our pick honestly. I like his ability in coverage but should we really pick an ILB this high with other needs on the board? Based on this, should Joey Bosa be there, I really think he should be our pick over Jack no question about it. We should desire Bosa's ability to potentially rush as a OLB/DE hybrid, similar to McPhee who we badly miss. 

The one issue i have with bosa is how hi his upside is. I dont think he has a very high upside and we need a homerun pick here. https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2016/2/25/11059596/2016-nfl-draft-profile-joey-bosa-ohio-state-defensive-end-breakdown?client=ms-android-metropcs-us&espv=1#fpstate=amp_viewer

 

This is how i feel about bosa

[RaineV1]

47 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I think there's a good chance Bosa, Ramsey and Buckner should and will land to us, under the assumption that Tunsil is gone and Cleveland goes QB. I would take any of the three over Jack. 

I agree. I really like Jack and I think he would help our defense tremendously. That said, if Buckner or Bosa are there they have to be the pick. They're just way too good to pass up.

[FastEddie]

2 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I agree. I really like Jack and I think he would help our defense tremendously. That said, if Buckner or Bosa are there they have to be the pick. They're just way too good to pass up.

 

Not a Bosa fan. Ravens would take Jack over sheer athleticism...although it would be a tough decision to make

[ravensnation5220]

2 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I agree. I really like Jack and I think he would help our defense tremendously. That said, if Buckner or Bosa are there they have to be the pick. They're just way too good to pass up.

Bosa is at the bottom of my list between those four. I just dont think he has as hi of a ceiling as any of those guys, odds are hes not as likely to bust but i see him having a career like Jarrett johnson. Maybe more productive but similar. https://www.google.com/amp/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2016/2/25/11059596/2016-nfl-draft-profile-joey-bosa-ohio-state-defensive-end-breakdown?client=ms-android-metropcs-us&espv=1#fpstate=amp_viewer

[JoeyFlex5]

We're not passing Bosa for a Ilb, period. 

 

I prefer William Jackson over fuller by a mile. I also just am not a big fan of fullers overconfidence, his athletic and coverage skills are just not of a high enough caliber to get away with it consistently, he plays with a deion mentality but with half the athleticism and skill, I think he belongs on a team with an all around great defense for him to be successful. 

 

And I will fully embrace the incoming negs...

[allblackraven]

19 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

We're not passing Bosa for a Ilb, period. 

 

I prefer William Jackson over fuller by a mile. I also just am not a big fan of fullers overconfidence, his athletic and coverage skills are just not of a high enough caliber to get away with it consistently, he plays with a deion mentality but with half the athleticism and skill, I think he belongs on a team with an all around great defense for him to be successful. 

 

And I will fully embrace the incoming negs...

I sound like a broken record but I see Fuller as very good FS in pros.

[JoeyFlex5]

8 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I sound like a broken record but I see Fuller as very good FS in pros.

I think him and Thompson could be comparable as a FS, but Thompson is larger with better ball skills by quite a bit and he is proven there so I'd favor him. 

 

I dont dislike fuller per se, I'm just not a big fan and I think he's a bit overrated. 

[CalvinSmoke]

3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I think him and Thompson could be comparable as a FS, but Thompson is larger with better ball skills by quite a bit and he is proven there so I'd favor him. 

 

I dont dislike fuller per se, I'm just not a big fan and I think he's a bit overrated. 

I forgot about Jackson when I made this. You make a damned good point. But with your bottom line feelings about fuller, that's how I feel about bosa. I think he's slow, and gets away with whooping on not so talented right tackles. He's a good player just not what some are hyping him to be 

[Wildabeast88]

If Bosa is at 6 the only way we don't take him is if we go Spence or KO walks ad go Tunsil/ Stanley edge rusher is the most pressing need on the team by far I like this draft but pass rush needs to be addressed early

[January J]

Overall I like it but no way bosa falls to 10  and I've started to like WJ3 much more than fuller too.

[RavensDieHard21]

On 2/26/2016 at 10:19 AM, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't think Jack will be our pick honestly. I like his ability in coverage but should we really pick an ILB this high with other needs on the board? Based on this, should Joey Bosa be there, I really think he should be our pick over Jack no question about it. We should desire Bosa's ability to potentially rush as a OLB/DE hybrid, similar to McPhee who we badly miss. 

Agreed, if this were the legit draft, then it would be Bosa for sure, but if Stanley isn't selected and Bosa is off the board, then Jack is certainly my pick, unless Spence kills it tomorrow and we interview him and see something in him that indicates he has his stuff together.

[BmoreBird22]

On 2/26/2016 at 5:17 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

I think him and Thompson could be comparable as a FS, but Thompson is larger with better ball skills by quite a bit and he is proven there so I'd favor him. 

 

I dont dislike fuller per se, I'm just not a big fan and I think he's a bit overrated. 

You don't have the most pass deflections in the NCAA because someone has better ball skills than you "by quite a bit"... I question whether some of you do watch him that thoroughly. Go watch is 2013 Duke film if it's available. He almost singlehandedly won that game with three interceptions (should have been five, but he dropped two), but Logan Thomas played so porously and gave that game way. 

That was not a fun game to be at. First week of being ranked, get a night game, and Tech loses. Long walk back home.

[BmoreBird22]

On 2/26/2016 at 5:06 PM, allblackraven said:

I sound like a broken record but I see Fuller as very good FS in pros.

I see him as an ideal fit for the Tampa 2, a great press man corner, and a good free safety. He's far more talented than Kyle Fuller who has done pretty well for himself.

[allblackraven]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

You don't have the most pass deflections in the NCAA because someone has better ball skills than you "by quite a bit"... I question whether some of you do watch him that thoroughly. Go watch is 2013 Duke film if it's available. He almost singlehandedly won that game with three interceptions (should have been five, but he dropped two), but Logan Thomas played so porously and gave that game way. 

That was not a fun game to be at. First week of being ranked, get a night game, and Tech loses. Long walk back home.

Not many people watched him play his first two seasons. To me, he's a definition of a ball hawk.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, allblackraven said:

Not many people watched him play his first two seasons. To me, he's a definition of a ball hawk.

His freshman year is going to be the most telling tape, which I see is not available on DraftBreakdown.com. He played with a broken wrist most of, if not all of, his sophomore year and last year, he had a torn meniscus in the games he played in. That shows 1) Incredible toughness, but 2) Gives a legitimate reason for some of his struggles.

I probably sound like a broken record, but I watched every single game he played in. I'm not like some people who watched three or four. I have seen over 20 games and have the upmost faith in him.

[allblackraven]

5 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

His freshman year is going to be the most telling tape, which I see is not available on DraftBreakdown.com. He played with a broken wrist most of, if not all of, his sophomore year and last year, he had a torn meniscus in the games he played in. That shows 1) Incredible toughness, but 2) Gives a legitimate reason for some of his struggles.

I probably sound like a broken record, but I watched every single game he played in. I'm not like some people who watched three or four. I have seen over 20 games and have the upmost faith in him.

If the Ravens take him, I can see you changing that handle. Something like 22BmoreBird27

[BmoreBird22]

It'll be a thought...

Seriously, though, I'm with you. He is the absolute definition of a ballhawk and an absolute gambler. He's kinda like Ed Reed in that sense...