[News] No A.J. Green-Type Receiver In This Year's Draft Class

[BR News]

The top wide receiver on many dranik boards, LaQuon Treadwell, may not be a top-10 pick.

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[The Greek]

the scouts need to find those gems that will be available in the 3-5th rds. that we always miss out on to other teams

[edthehead]

agree with the Greek, but the caveat is, why take the chance in rounds 3-5 20 years we have been at this, if we do not go WR in the 1st, then in the 2nd(early). anything after that will only back log what we already have.

[757RavensFan]

The fact that we can't hit on a WR still amazes me.  The fact that Ozzie a former receiver himself (albeit a TE) has yet to hit it big w/ a WR is even more puzzling. 

[ellicottraven]

I'm glad Horitz feels so strongly about Breshad. I've a lot of respect for our scouting department, especially Horitz and DeCosta. So, I'm just hopeful and anxious to see Breshad pay off for us. If he does and Flacco is healthy and playing well, I see our offensive production explode! Having said that, our team's focus in this draft needs to be to bring in defensive play makers that will re-ignite the swagger and fury of a traditional Ravens D!!

[ellicottraven]

The fact that we can't hit on a WR still amazes me.  The fact that Ozzie a former receiver himself (albeit a TE) has yet to hit it big w/ a WR is even more puzzling. 

There is some merit to your thought process. Maybe from a strategic stand point, we just need to focus on every other position in the draft and get WRs through free agency! That formula may work if we can free up some cap space! But, on a serious note, I think Breshad Perriman will prove the exception and light up the league!

[rmcjacket23]

1 minute ago, ellicottraven said:

There is some merit to your thought process. Maybe from a strategic stand point, we just need to focus on every other position in the draft and get WRs through free agency! That formula may work if we can free up some cap space! But, on a serious note, I think Breshad Perriman will prove the exception and light up the league!

Agreed. I think Perriman will do very well in the next 2-3 years.

As it stands for this year, I don't really see us doing more at WR than adding a guy or two in the draft, hopefully earlier rather than later. The FA market for WRs is extremely thin this year.

I have no issue with the way we've really done things from a WR standpoint... draft somebody early, add a veteran WR who is past his prime but still a quality contributor. I don't think anybody really ever had a problem with the Mason/Boldin/Steve Smith signings. I think the major issue is that the WRs we've targeted early (Clayton, Torrey, so far Perriman) just haven't been "the guy" in terms of that stud WR you'd like to draft and mold into a franchise WR. Practically all of those guys have been playing second-fiddle to veterans, which is a trend everybody would like to see reverse.

As it stands, I expect Perriman, Steve and Aiken to be our top 3 WRs this year.

[757RavensFan]

5 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

There is some merit to your thought process. Maybe from a strategic stand point, we just need to focus on every other position in the draft and get WRs through free agency! That formula may work if we can free up some cap space! But, on a serious note, I think Breshad Perriman will prove the exception and light up the league!

Trust me, I'm hoping for that as well. But at this point, he's an unknown.  So we're still at square one with him.  

[757RavensFan]

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Agreed. I think Perriman will do very well in the next 2-3 years.

As it stands for this year, I don't really see us doing more at WR than adding a guy or two in the draft, hopefully earlier rather than later. The FA market for WRs is extremely thin this year.

I have no issue with the way we've really done things from a WR standpoint... draft somebody early, add a veteran WR who is past his prime but still a quality contributor. I don't think anybody really ever had a problem with the Mason/Boldin/Steve Smith signings. I think the major issue is that the WRs we've targeted early (Clayton, Torrey, so far Perriman) just haven't been "the guy" in terms of that stud WR you'd like to draft and mold into a franchise WR. Practically all of those guys have been playing second-fiddle to veterans, which is a trend everybody would like to see reverse.

As it stands, I expect Perriman, Steve and Aiken to be our top 3 WRs this year.

 THIS!!  Like the article stated, if we were picking 6th in 2014 we would have had an option at multiple stud WRs. Unfortunately for us, we've never drafted that high when there was a excellent WR draft class. And now this year that we are drafting high, the WR class is not that top heavy.  Even if it was, I don't know if it would be a position of need unless it was an AJ Green type of talent.  

[ravefan52]

Quote

"Relative to recent drafts, there’s a drop-off at wide receiver, I think we’ve benefitted from two outstanding classes the previous two seasons." -Joe Hortiz

Really? How exactly have we benefited from the last two WR classes? Those guys have a grand total of 12 catches during that time.

 

There hasn't been a Julio Jones or AJ Green level WR prospects since that 2011 class.

Edited February 23, 2016 by ravefan52

[ravens4life86]

No AJ GREEN? So were going to write off the entire draft?
Stefon Diggs 4th-5th rounder last year WR out of MD arguably 1 of the best WRs last year.
Just because theres no AJ Green diesnt mean WR is weak. Treadwell 6'4-6'5 210plus lb beast no.1 WR.. not a burner but Comparables to Jeffrey,BMarshall those types.
Corey Coleman, slippery, burner, but elusive, great route runner, hands maybe the next OBJ or Antonio Brown.
Will Fuller..Torrey Smith 2.0 straight line take the top off burner
Braxton Miller 6'5 225lb athlete turned WR, Speed, gets separation, downfield threat..

I can go on.. Ravens need WRs. So dont try to say its not a deep WR pool because I just named 4 players going in the first 2 rounds of 2016 draft that will impact next season barring injury.
Take atleast 1 of them

[jravens13]

Josh Doctson has a very similar frame to AJ Green.

[ravens4life86]

4 WRs.. going first 2 rounds..
Treadwell..6'5 210 plus comparable..BMarshall,Jeffrey
Coleman 6ft 195.. comparable OBJ,Antonio Brown..
Will Fuller, Torrey Smith 2.0 Straight line burner take tge top off
Braxton Miller 6'5 225lb athlete,speed, gets down field mismatch

Dont say its not deep at WR. First 2 round picks...Ravens need to pick 1 atleast

[rmcjacket23]

6 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

No AJ GREEN? So were going to write off the entire draft?
Stefon Diggs 4th-5th rounder last year WR out of MD arguably 1 of the best WRs last year.
Just because theres no AJ Green diesnt mean WR is weak. Treadwell 6'4-6'5 210plus lb beast no.1 WR.. not a burner but Comparables to Jeffrey,BMarshall those types.
Corey Coleman, slippery, burner, but elusive, great route runner, hands maybe the next OBJ or Antonio Brown.
Will Fuller..Torrey Smith 2.0 straight line take the top off burner
Braxton Miller 6'5 225lb athlete turned WR, Speed, gets separation, downfield threat..

I can go on.. Ravens need WRs. So dont try to say its not a deep WR pool because I just named 4 players going in the first 2 rounds of 2016 draft that will impact next season barring injury.
Take atleast 1 of them

You can say this about every draft, and I certainly wouldn't be guaranteeing anything when it comes to WRs.

I get the "hometown" infatuation with Diggs, but some of you guys really weren't paying attention to what he did last year. He basically lit the league on fire in his first four games, and then pretty much literally did nothing after that. He averaged 55 yards/game and literally nobody should be suggesting he was one of the best WRs in the league. Kamar Aiken was significantly more productive than him on a per game basis.

Understand that for nine consecutive games at the end of the season, his weekly stat line average was 3 for 33, and he scored 2 TDs in those 9 weeks.

I get there's room for growth and he certainly exceeded expectations based on draft position, but this guy was FAR, FAR, FAR, from being one of the better receivers in the league. There really is no statistical basis for that statement.

[billiejean]

No AJ GREEN? So were going to write off the entire draft?
Stefon Diggs 4th-5th rounder last year WR out of MD arguably 1 of the best WRs last year.
Just because theres no AJ Green diesnt mean WR is weak. Treadwell 6'4-6'5 210plus lb beast no.1 WR.. not a burner but Comparables to Jeffrey,BMarshall those types.
Corey Coleman, slippery, burner, but elusive, great route runner, hands maybe the next OBJ or Antonio Brown.
Will Fuller..Torrey Smith 2.0 straight line take the top off burner
Braxton Miller 6'5 225lb athlete turned WR, Speed, gets separation, downfield threat..

I can go on.. Ravens need WRs. So dont try to say its not a deep WR pool because I just named 4 players going in the first 2 rounds of 2016 draft that will impact next season barring injury.
Take atleast 1 of them

"Braxton Miller 6'5 225lb athlete turned WR"

easy there chief, Miller is 6'1 and 204 lbs

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

I liked Treadwell until he decided to not run a 40 at the combine.That's a huge red flag.

[Drew P]

The WR class isn't top heavy with early RD 1 talent but there are plenty of options in rounds 2 and 3.

They can't use the failed strategy of selecting the small school dud in the 7th, the red zone threat or the 40 freak. Go to the game film and figure it out.

With Jones and Sanu set to be free agents the Bungles will reload and nab another guy the Ravens cant handle. Hell, even the Brown's have Benjamin and Gordon.

 

[edthehead]

I liked Treadwell until he decided to not run a 40 at the combine.That's a huge red flag.

DEZ didn't run the 40, fitzgerald also, just to name 2(nfl live today) and we would have taken both if given the chance. TREADWELL is big and strong like dez and as slow as he is.

[ravens4life86]

@Rmcjacket, Take into account circumstance and situation. Aiken is not in Diggs class. Aiken got off because INJURIES. Diggs is playing in a Peterson first offense...and still had 50 recs 720 yrds and 4 tds for 14 yrd avg as a rookie.. hes only going to grow and become a 1k yrd WR. Tge hands,separation,speed etc is there.
Only team scheme will hold him back...not ability

[ravens4life86]

Billiejean, Braxton Miller wiki..220lbs. Enough said

[billiejean]

27 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

Billiejean, Braxton Miller wiki..220lbs. Enough said

Because wiki (they also say he is 6'2) is always a reliable source of information..... hahahahaha
You are probably not of college age but if you were you would know never to quote wikipedia. That is the number one nono of all professors. 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824414/braxton-miller

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119334&draftyear=2016&genpos=WR

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/braxton-miller?id=2555348

http://thedraftwire.usatoday.com/2016/01/21/2016-nfl-draft-scouting-report-ohio-state-wr-braxton-miller/

http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2016bmiller.php?tih

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2016/01/2016_senior_bowl_weigh-in_results_and_instant_anal.html

He was just measured at the Senior Bowl and is 6'1" 204 and as you so cleverly put it.... enough said lol

Edited February 23, 2016 by billiejean

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draft treadwell

[ravens4life86]

Billiejean, I dont know about you but I did go to college and my Prof. Allowed WIKI as a reliable source of thec3 to 5 required and it has never failed.
Its just as reliable as Yahoo or anything else especially after Wikileaks.
Enough said

[billiejean]

9 hours ago, ravens4life86 said:

Billiejean, I dont know about you but I did go to college and my Prof. Allowed WIKI as a reliable source of thec3 to 5 required and it has never failed.
Its just as reliable as Yahoo or anything else especially after Wikileaks.
Enough said

If it is so reliable than why is their info about Braxton Miller wrong. Wiki is never a reliable source because anybody can write anything on it. Your professor or the school you went to must have had extremely low standards. Wikileaks by the way had nothing to do with Wikipedia and because you trust the site so much you won't have to take my word for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiLeaks_is_not_part_of_Wikipedia

 

Edited February 24, 2016 by billiejean

[Ravenous_Ravens]

This doesn't mean there are no WR's to be had this draft. All it means is the ceiling is by comparison lower than other positions. I'm not sure Ravens would draft a WR in round in back to back years even if the talent was there, maybe.

[mearzunkies]

OUCH good reply!

[Justin Whitcome]

Tyler Boyd is the closest comparison to AJ Green and he's not even mentioned...

[Saxxin]

Perriman is their AJ Green. Don't doubt this guy because he missed his rookie year. We'll see more of Waller this year too. They got two good WR's last year. A healthy unit is a strength in 2016, not a weakness.

[Halshayeji]

12 hours ago, HomeoftheBRAVENS said:

I liked Treadwell until he decided to not run a 40 at the combine.That's a huge red flag.

I expected that all along. treadwell is probably working 90% on his speed and 10% everything else right now. His best 40 time is probably not good enough to go top 10. He has one more month to lower it as much as he can for his pro days. I wouldn't be surprised if he only runs the 40 at his pro day and nothing else. Just a side note:- if you run a 4.4 at the combine you can easily run a 4.35 on your pro day. That's because the computer timer is a bit slower than the stopwatches on pro days. Most players that run the 40 at both often shed some time off at their pro days and it's no coincidence. 

 

He's still a really good player with probably the best hands in this class. He's just admitting that he's not that fast. If he does a 4.41 at pro days then he's a top ten guy. If he does a 4.55 the  GMs know that he had an extra month to prepare and the stopwatch helped him. Leaving his actual speed at 4.6 on a normal day which may drop him to the end of the first or even he second. 

Someone will benefit from his arrival but probably not in the top ten.