[News] Eisenberg: Breshad Perriman Labels Have Been Unfair

[BR News]

His injury was simply bad luck. So, let’s take a deep breath and see where he goes from here.

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[ibleedpurpleandblack]

Yes, the injury was not his fault. I am more concerned with the fact that the team waited so long to scope his knee to find out it was more serious that originally thought.

Another thing that has me concerned with is the teams strength and agility coaching - way too many injuries, something is off drastically and needs to be thoroughly examined because it cannot happen again...

[ellicottraven]

Well, forget the labels Eisenberg, whether deserved or not. We are onto 2016. Why don't you tell us how his knee is doing right now? Is he fully recovered or is he still working towards a full recovery? Frankly, this information is far more useful to us the fans, than getting reprimanded by you for labeling Perriman one way or another.

[trevorsteadman]

Yes, the injury was not his fault. I am more concerned with the fact that the team waited so long to scope his knee to find out it was more serious that originally thought.

Another thing that has me concerned with is the teams strength and agility coaching - way too many injuries, something is off drastically and needs to be thoroughly examined because it cannot happen again...

I agree especially with the second paragraph of your post. It is not just one position anymore it seems to be happening all over the team. Something needs to be fixed so our players can play all 16 games.

[757RavensFan]

I literally was just about to create a post in the main forum asking if anyone knew of a status update on Perriman.  

Considering the comedy of errors in reporting Perriman's condition and return last season, I think the FO will keep any news

on Perriman's recovery close to the vest. 

If he does come back at 100%, consider it Christmas b/c we'll basically have three first round talented players as rookies this year.  

 

Edited February 23, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[polynesian15]

Fingers crossed, prayers and all that stuff. Get well BP and take the league by storm!!

[robbie29]

"Bust"...well, probably not bc it's too early.

Reason to be worried- Yes. Perriman is known primarily for being really, really fast. The fact that it was a knee ligament/hamstring injury that derailed his entire rookie training camp, preseason and regular season is concerning. And, until/unless he proves that he hasn't lost a step, many (perhaps most) fans will be nervously holding their breath to see how much of a lingering effect that mysterious, serious injury will have.

[The Greek]

any word on if he has been running without limitations or setbacks? if ready than this is his rookie season imo so i am not expecting him to put up all star stats. hope he is hungry

[ThatssoRaven1990]

The fans were so critical on Perriman because the FO wasn't disclosing his injury and always said "Day to Day, and we will see if he can make it back".

If it was stated early on that he tore a ligament in his knee then you wouldn't see the backlash that he has received.

[EliteRavens]

Great article!

[757RavensFan]

3 minutes ago, ThatssoRaven1990 said:

The fans were so critical on Perriman because the FO wasn't disclosing his injury and always said "Day to Day, and we will see if he can make it back".

If it was stated early on that he tore a ligament in his knee then you wouldn't see the backlash that he has received.

 

Why did BP receive the backlash though?  It wasn't him reporting the status of his injury.  

To be honest, I was impressed with how the rookie handled the situation.  He didn't make numerous post on social media about his status.  

He didn't talk to the media until after he was put on IR.  

 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Unfair??? maybe I know it was just an accident but going forward how many more accidents are we going to see and how many of the supposed minor accidents will turn into season ending injuries? About the only positive thing here is we have another guy on the roster this year who we have yet to see what he can do at this level that is if he can get onto and stay on the field.

[Bat-mite]

This is all a matter of perspective. Is a player a bust until he proves he's an asset, or is he an asset until he proves he's a bust? There's no one right answer.

[jdynamite]

Honestly it seemed like a majority of the fans became impatient and unsettled in part because of the lack of information. From the beginning, Harbaugh stated it was a minor sprain day-to-day. ( I think many of us, didn't give it a second thought for awhile ). Then training camp ended, preseason began with minimal updates.  Speculation began on what the injury was it a simple knee sprain, torn meniscus, partially torn acl, mcl, pcl? No one knew. 

 

If Harbaugh or any other Ravens personnel would have come out sooner and said it appears Perrimen's injury is a bit more serious than a simple day to day sprain and the timetable is uncertain. Rather than letting months go by with no updates fans would have been more understanding and knowledgable.  

[PalmBayRaven]

FO can take part of the blame on this one. It went from out a couple weeks, to a couple months until Thanksgiving IR and out the rest of the season. We needed him because we had to no speed threat on the outside. Whiffing on draft choices the last few years - Matt Elam especially didn't help matters. People tend to think your #1 pick is ready to play and contribute right away. Maybe for other teams but certainly not the Ravens other than CJ Mosley in recent years.
Just saying......

[samilbourne]

OK - the front office deserves some of the blame for this. They should have checked him out in a more through manner than they did prior to drafting him, and, then, they could have been more forthcoming as to the extent of the injury. However, this man has been paid a great deal of money for performance, and no performance has been registered as of yet. I've not seen anything that indicates that he is working diligently to get back on the field this coming season. Until we see that - or the evidence of such - he will be subject to this criticism, and it will be justified. When he signed the big contract, judgment of your performance - justified or not - is part of the deal. He needs to "suck it up", show the fans he is working hard to get healthy, and then deliver excellent performance on the field. Then the criticism will stop. Until then, the "forgotten man" label will be sticking to him like glue and no attempt by the PR department to remove it will work. Start showing up at the Castle to work out and train, Breshad. Show us you're working to get back. That might help. Hiding out isn't helping at all.

[RavensBaltimore]

People say those things about Perriman because they simply don't know what they're talking about. When has a knee sprain ever caused chronic issues in a young player's career? I can't remember that ever happening. The fact that he played all but one game in his college career shows he can play at full speed and take hits without getting injured. It was ONE lingering injury, and it lingered so long because he retore it, so he obviously isn't "soft", because he tried to come back a little too early. Just because an injury takes longer than usual to heal DOES NOT mean that it will become chronic.

[RavensBaltimore]

Honestly it seemed like a majority of the fans became impatient and unsettled in part because of the lack of information. From the beginning, Harbaugh stated it was a minor sprain day-to-day. ( I think many of us, didn't give it a second thought for awhile ). Then training camp ended, preseason began with minimal updates.  Speculation began on what the injury was it a simple knee sprain, torn meniscus, partially torn acl, mcl, pcl? No one knew. 

 

If Harbaugh or any other Ravens personnel would have come out sooner and said it appears Perrimen's injury is a bit more serious than a simple day to day sprain and the timetable is uncertain. Rather than letting months go by with no updates fans would have been more understanding and knowledgable.  

Right after Perriman's first MRI, which I think was in August, Harbaugh did say it showed inflammation indicative of a sprain, and the doctors were calling it a sprain. Jamison Hensely reported that he had a PCL sprain in August. I have no idea why the writers on this site kept acting like it was some kind of mystery injury, but the video of Harbaugh telling the media that the MRI showed a sprain was on this site.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Honestly it seemed like a majority of the fans became impatient and unsettled in part because of the lack of information. From the beginning, Harbaugh stated it was a minor sprain day-to-day. ( I think many of us, didn't give it a second thought for awhile ). Then training camp ended, preseason began with minimal updates.  Speculation began on what the injury was it a simple knee sprain, torn meniscus, partially torn acl, mcl, pcl? No one knew. 

 

If Harbaugh or any other Ravens personnel would have come out sooner and said it appears Perrimen's injury is a bit more serious than a simple day to day sprain and the timetable is uncertain. Rather than letting months go by with no updates fans would have been more understanding and knowledgable.  

Completely agree. I do also think that the Ravens media guys were coaching them to not tip their hand one way or another either. Knowing if and when certain players are expected back changes how teams prepare during the week. All I really know about B Perriman for sure is, when healthy the guy moooooves and has good hands. Think he just needed a strong armed QB to toss him the rock. I'm optimistic that this year any play Perrriman is on the field is a potential touchdown due to his ability to stretch the field and Joe's willingness and ability to get the ball deep. Can't wait to see.

[eek]

FO can take part of the blame on this one. It went from out a couple weeks, to a couple months until Thanksgiving IR and out the rest of the season. We needed him because we had to no speed threat on the outside. Whiffing on draft choices the last few years - Matt Elam especially didn't help matters. People tend to think your #1 pick is ready to play and contribute right away. Maybe for other teams but certainly not the Ravens other than CJ Mosley in recent years.
Just saying......

when you're picking in the back of the 1st round all the time. your picks tend to be 50/50.. On your case about Matt Elam, the whole 2013 draft class was pretty bad and we took him with the 32nd pick, not the 6th or 18th. the only people we missed in that class was Darius Slay or Le'Von bell.. but at that point in time. we had emerging Jimmy Smith with a healthy Webb and had Ray Rice carrying the rock. no one can predict future. but your post tends to lead that way. Since Harbaugh and Oz has been paired our 1st round picks have been 08 Flacco, 09 Oher, 11 jimmy smith, 13 Elam, 14 Mosley, 15 Perriman. Let see 4 of those guys are starting (1 for another team). One missed his rookie year and one didn't do a good job. But yeah we have been missing a lot in the first round according to you.

[whobilly]

2016.....75 receptions, 1200 yards, 9 TD's.

[whobilly]

.......Dreaming positive thoughts

[rmcjacket23]

1 hour ago, samilbourne said:

OK - the front office deserves some of the blame for this. They should have checked him out in a more through manner than they did prior to drafting him, and, then, they could have been more forthcoming as to the extent of the injury. However, this man has been paid a great deal of money for performance, and no performance has been registered as of yet. I've not seen anything that indicates that he is working diligently to get back on the field this coming season. Until we see that - or the evidence of such - he will be subject to this criticism, and it will be justified. When he signed the big contract, judgment of your performance - justified or not - is part of the deal. He needs to "suck it up", show the fans he is working hard to get healthy, and then deliver excellent performance on the field. Then the criticism will stop. Until then, the "forgotten man" label will be sticking to him like glue and no attempt by the PR department to remove it will work. Start showing up at the Castle to work out and train, Breshad. Show us you're working to get back. That might help. Hiding out isn't helping at all.

1. His injury had nothing to do with pre-draft analysis, so wouldn't have changed anything

2. It really doesn't matter what fans see... fans can complain and label players whatever they want, but fan labels don't equate to anything. They don't affect pay, performance, team success, etc.

The very last thing I'd be asking Breshad to do, as a realistic fan, is put on a dog and pony show for the fans to get back in their good graces. 

[757RavensFan]

1 hour ago, samilbourne said:

OK - the front office deserves some of the blame for this. They should have checked him out in a more through manner than they did prior to drafting him, and, then, they could have been more forthcoming as to the extent of the injury. However, this man has been paid a great deal of money for performance, and no performance has been registered as of yet. I've not seen anything that indicates that he is working diligently to get back on the field this coming season. Until we see that - or the evidence of such - he will be subject to this criticism, and it will be justified. When he signed the big contract, judgment of your performance - justified or not - is part of the deal. He needs to "suck it up", show the fans he is working hard to get healthy, and then deliver excellent performance on the field. Then the criticism will stop. Until then, the "forgotten man" label will be sticking to him like glue and no attempt by the PR department to remove it will work. Start showing up at the Castle to work out and train, Breshad. Show us you're working to get back. That might help. Hiding out isn't helping at all.

What else more could the Ravens have checked out?  Did you read the article?  He missed ONE game during his three year college career.  

He doesn't need to show the fans anything, that's absurd!  What makes you think he's not putting in all the work and physical therapy necessary to get back to 100%?  Just b/c he's not posting pics on Instagram or tweeting about his rehab, recovery and training doesn't mean he's not putting in the work.  Since being put on IR he's stated that he's going to do everything possible to be ready for this season.  He didn't even have to say that. As far as I'm concerned, that should be good enough for anyone until proven otherwise.  

Edited February 23, 2016 by 757RavensFan

[iluvpurple]

2015 is in the rear-view mirror, looking forward to a hopefully much better 2016, and Perriman showing what he can do ???

[BmoreB]

3 hours ago, samilbourne said:

OK - the front office deserves some of the blame for this. They should have checked him out in a more through manner than they did prior to drafting him, and, then, they could have been more forthcoming as to the extent of the injury. However, this man has been paid a great deal of money for performance, and no performance has been registered as of yet. I've not seen anything that indicates that he is working diligently to get back on the field this coming season. Until we see that - or the evidence of such - he will be subject to this criticism, and it will be justified. When he signed the big contract, judgment of your performance - justified or not - is part of the deal. He needs to "suck it up", show the fans he is working hard to get healthy, and then deliver excellent performance on the field. Then the criticism will stop. Until then, the "forgotten man" label will be sticking to him like glue and no attempt by the PR department to remove it will work. Start showing up at the Castle to work out and train, Breshad. Show us you're working to get back. That might help. Hiding out isn't helping at all.

I agree 100%. Additionally I think Perriman should tweet what meals he's eating throughout the course of each day so that we know he's eating a sensible diet. Maybe even a good night tweet is in order. The last thing we want is him not getting a good night sleep which would obviously place him at less than 100% while working out. Hell, he should hire an assistant to follow him with a drone and shoot it out on Periscope so we can simply track his every move.

[Rich McG]

Veeeerrrrrrry interesting. We still don't know if he is running yet. Just running...nothing fancy. After the Kindle, Elam mistakes the Perriman situation is serious. He's basically been unavailable to the media for 8 months. Why? Hey! We all hope he comes out playing blazing fast with a long wonderful career. By the way, who is blaming Perriman; it's the front office I have my eye on in these deals. Go Ravens!

Edited February 24, 2016 by Rich McG

[billiejean]

  4 hours ago, samilbourne said:

OK - the front office deserves some of the blame for this. They should have checked him out in a more through manner than they did prior to drafting him, and, then, they could have been more forthcoming as to the extent of the injury. However, this man has been paid a great deal of money for performance, and no performance has been registered as of yet. I've not seen anything that indicates that he is working diligently to get back on the field this coming season. Until we see that - or the evidence of such - he will be subject to this criticism, and it will be justified. When he signed the big contract, judgment of your performance - justified or not - is part of the deal. He needs to "suck it up", show the fans he is working hard to get healthy, and then deliver excellent performance on the field. Then the criticism will stop. Until then, the "forgotten man" label will be sticking to him like glue and no attempt by the PR department to remove it will work. Start showing up at the Castle to work out and train, Breshad. Show us you're working to get back. That might help. Hiding out isn't helping at all.

I agree 100%. Additionally I think Perriman should tweet what meals he's eating throughout the course of each day so that we know he's eating a sensible diet. Maybe even a good night tweet is in order. The last thing we want is him not getting a good night sleep which would obviously place him at less than 100% while working out. Hell, he should hire an assistant to follow him with a drone and shoot it out on Periscope so we can simply track his every move.

this is great

[mearzunkies]

I sure hope we see him this year! If not the B word will creep in quickly! He is fast and has great size. Could that history of a disease in his knee be affecting the rehab pace?

[mearzunkies]

  1 hour ago, BmoreB said:

  5 hours ago, samilbourne said:

OK - the front office deserves some of the blame for this. They should have checked him out in a more through manner than they did prior to drafting him, and, then, they could have been more forthcoming as to the extent of the injury. However, this man has been paid a great deal of money for performance, and no performance has been registered as of yet. I've not seen anything that indicates that he is working diligently to get back on the field this coming season. Until we see that - or the evidence of such - he will be subject to this criticism, and it will be justified. When he signed the big contract, judgment of your performance - justified or not - is part of the deal. He needs to "suck it up", show the fans he is working hard to get healthy, and then deliver excellent performance on the field. Then the criticism will stop. Until then, the "forgotten man" label will be sticking to him like glue and no attempt by the PR department to remove it will work. Start showing up at the Castle to work out and train, Breshad. Show us you're working to get back. That might help. Hiding out isn't helping at all.

I agree 100%. Additionally I think Perriman should tweet what meals he's eating throughout the course of each day so that we know he's eating a sensible diet. Maybe even a good night tweet is in order. The last thing we want is him not getting a good night sleep which would obviously place him at less than 100% while working out. Hell, he should hire an assistant to follow him with a drone and shoot it out on Periscope so we can simply track his every move.

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