Joey Bosa or DeForest Buckner at 6.

[L.A.Ravens]

Just now, L.A.Ravens said:

I straight up said the oline was a joke. They gave up pressure on the outside and the middle. Learn to read.

Just re read what I wrote, I wrote it wrong. I ment it towards spence as the senior bowl was a joke. Not the whole senior bowl in its self. Just saying that Oline was absolutely horrible. It made that whole d look like 1st rounders.

[January J]

3 hours ago, L.A.Ravens said:

I st raight up said the oline was a joke. They gav e up pressure on the outside and the middle. Learn to read.

I think my reading is just fine, lol its a direct quote . I hear what your sayin but once again, its not Even about that. Maybe you   Should stick to the topic instead of Making snide remarks. 

Edited February 20, 2016 by January J

[L.A.Ravens]

2 hours ago, January J said:

I think my reading is just fine, lol its a direct quote . I hear what your sayin but once again, its not Even about that. Maybe you   Should stick to the topic instead of Making snide remarks. 

The main article right now on nfl.com is about spence not on the field but off of it because of randy Gregory getting suspended today. Don't get me wrong I think spence is a good player. I hope with the Gregory suspension GM get a little scared off and he drops. To the Ravens possibly trade up to the end of the first or hope he drops all the way to us in the second. That would be a dream come true. Buckner/Bosa and Spence with our first two picks.

Edited February 20, 2016 by L.A.Ravens

[sflegend89]

Bosa.Bosa.Bosa. No question, not even close. That's not a slight against Buckner as I think fairly highly of him but you could argue that Bosa has the highest ceiling and game changing ability in this entire draft class. My only issue with Bosa is that he's more of a 4-3 DE, Buckner is more of a true scheme fit but honestly Bosa is so talented that you can't pass him up if he's on the board at #6. I'm not a big fan of the Watt comparisons but I do believe he has the size, explosiveness, and work ethic to be an absolute game wrecker. 

Bosa isn't Von Miller, Aldon Smith, or Khalil Mack let's get that straight. He's never going to be as agile or have the type of get off those guys have. But he is explosive in his own right and I think that's where he draws those Watt comparisons, what he lacks in agility he makes up for in sheer power, technique, and ability to bully OL for lack of a better word. If we get Bosa at #6 that's a homerun, if we get Buckner at #6 that's a good but not great pick from a value perspective. Look at it this way, if Bosa goes #1 overall nobody is going to bat an eye, nobody can even fathom Buckner going #1 overall.

Edited February 20, 2016 by sflegend89

[Underdogsontop!]

11 hours ago, polynesian15 said:

Maybe I just haven't been paying attention close enough, but I feel like Timmy was very quiet this past season. Or did he just do a lot of 'bread and butter stuff' (hmm) that didn't show up in the stat sheet?

Like others have said I also feel like we should address defense in the first round. Depending on how the chips fall we should be able to pick one of Buckner, Bosa, Jack, Ramsey, Spence or Jaylon. All great talents I would welcome with open arms.
I think I might even stay up late here in Europe and watch our pick live, since we're on the clock so early this year.
Can't wait, go Ravens!  

Imo Timmy only showed up in the pass rush. He never played as much as I thought he would this year. I think he's a more of a pass rusher then a run stuffer. Plus we were so used to seeing ngata with his great run stuffing abilities and this past year we never had that. 

[Mt. Crushmore]

Bosa

Edited February 20, 2016 by Mt. Crushmore

[Ravenseconbeast]

I don't understand why Buckner is getting so hot lately..Or why Myles Jack is picking up steam as a top 10pick.  

 

Both of them are not worthy of top tier pick IMO.  But w/e..

Edited February 21, 2016 by Ravenseconbeast

[RaineV1]

12 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

I don't understand why Buckner is getting so hot lately..Or why Myles Jack is picking up steam as a top 10pick.  

 

Both of them are not worthy of top tier pick IMO.  But w/e..

Then who is worthy of a top tier pick?

[CorvusMagnus]

Seriously

When long time draft evaluators are struggling to find a comp, past or present, because a player is too good at something (Jack in coverage) and other player is being described as a "better version" of a pro-bowl player (Buckner and Calais Campbell) who exactly are you holding out for?

Edited February 21, 2016 by CorvusMagnus

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

I don't understand why Buckner is getting so hot lately..Or why Myles Jack is picking up steam as a top 10pick.  

 

Both of them are not worthy of top tier pick IMO.  But w/e..

Truthfully both of these guys are worth a top 10 pick. Check out all available mock drafts on the internet and my statement will be borne out. Now, you need explain your opinion and give us 2 other players you would pick instead.

Edited February 21, 2016 by ellicottraven

[52520Andrew]

3 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

I don't understand why Buckner is getting so hot lately..Or why Myles Jack is picking up steam as a top 10pick.  

 

Both of them are not worthy of top tier pick IMO.  But w/e..

And are you going to explain your reasoning as to why they are not top tier picks or do you want us all to just take your word for it?

[usmccharles]

7 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

I don't understand why Buckner is getting so hot lately..Or why Myles Jack is picking up steam as a top 10pick.  

 

Both of them are not worthy of top tier pick IMO.  But w/e..

This is just flat out wrong.   Especially since this isn't a strong draft class.   But I'm glad you explained your reasoning,  I learned a lot 

[Radinho84]

this is a tough choice. but as we have a more immediate Need at OLB I would say Bosa.

I do not think that they will be available, though...

[outkast1]

I would be happy with both players !

[BmoreBird22]

7 hours ago, usmccharles said:

This is just flat out wrong.   Especially since this isn't a strong draft class.   But I'm glad you explained your reasoning,  I learned a lot 

He has an opinion, so how about you lay off. He even said "IMO"

[GrimCoconut]

14 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

I don't understand why Buckner is getting so hot lately..Or why Myles Jack is picking up steam as a top 10pick.  

 

Both of them are not worthy of top tier pick IMO.  But w/e..

I'm not going to take you to the wood shed and beat you but I would like to hear the ten players you have above both causing them to be outside your top 10.

[Stevin]

well...

tunsil , bosa , goff , ramsey , vh3 , stanley , j.smith , treadwell , coleman , nkemdiche , robinson , elliott , spence

how about that?

[ravensnick]

I'd definitely go Buckner. He is a Wilkerson/Richardson level talent at 3-4 DE. 

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

He has an opinion, so how about you lay off. He even said "IMO"

Of course it's his opinion,  but like I said,  he should give some Input.  That's the whole point of all us chatting, maybe I shouldn't have been so sarcastic.   My bad

[GrimCoconut]

45 minutes ago, Stevin said:

well...

tunsil , bosa , goff , ramsey , vh3 , stanley , j.smith , treadwell , coleman , nkemdiche , robinson , elliott , spence

how about that?

Nkemdiche is certainly talented but I'm not sure how much his little recent issues affect him. I like Treadwell and Coleman, but I just have both outside the top-10. I also think Buckner is better than Robinson, personally. I do think that Billings is right up there with Buckner in terms of talent, however. 

What reasons do you have for those names being listed above Buckner? Or did you list them just to list some names?

Edited February 21, 2016 by GrimCoconut

[ravefan52]

Bosa, but they are both great prospects imo.

[52520Andrew]

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

Of course it's his opinion,  but like I said,  he should give some Input.  That's the whole point of all us chatting, maybe I shouldn't have been so sarcastic.   My bad

Pretty sure he was using sarcasm

[Stevin]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

 What reasons do you have for those names being listed above Buckner? Or did you list them just to list some names?

some names ? rly?

it's a top prospects on all positions . 

best wr can be above best de , right ? in some cases... 
or best qb , or best cb
i like buckner , i didn't say nothing bad about him ) but obviosly he is not "№1" , he is "one of the best"

[usmccharles]

27 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

Pretty sure he was using sarcasm

Damn keyboard humor 

[Clmraven]

3 minutes ago, Stevin said:

some names ? rly?

it's a top prospects on all positions . 

best wr can be above best de , right ? in some cases... 
or best qb , or best cb
i like buckner , i didn't say nothing bad about him ) but obviosly he is not "№1" , he is "one of the best"

Im really having trouble understanding what your trying to say.

[balfan23]

On 2/17/2016 at 5:52 PM, Davesta said:

Bucker, bosa, Ramsey.. They can't all be taken can they!?!? 

I could see a not to far-fetched scenario where they will all be gone. Tunsil goes 1, CLE goes with whatever QB they like best and these 3 go in succession to SD, DAL and JAX. All it takes is DAL not taking a QB. Then I think we move to either selecting Jack, VH3 or Spence. 

[balfan23]

A lot of people will fall prey to the psychological aspect of this ... when analysts start allowing a guy to slide - in this case, Bosa, many of the people who lamented not being able to get him suddenly start wondering if we really want him or not ... and see the players who are getting projected ahead of our pick start to become the coveted player we really want. 

Not everyone mind you ... I know some have locked in on certain guys and that's who they want us to pick ... regardless of what analysts say. I'm just saying for a lot of us to don't follow these players that closely, psychology starts to come into play when following what the analysts think.

That will only continue after the combine is over and these mocks start shifting more dramatically. 

[Inqui]

51 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

I could see a not to far-fetched scenario where they will all be gone. Tunsil goes 1, CLE goes with whatever QB they like best and these 3 go in succession to SD, DAL and JAX. All it takes is DAL not taking a QB. Then I think we move to either selecting Jack, VH3 or Spence. 

If that scenario pans out I'd be fine with Jaylon Smith at 6 - no need to trade back imo. Apparently he's on track to be walking without crutches by the combine and running and cutting by day two of the draft. I also wouldn't rule out the Cowboys taking either Smith or Jack if they don't go QB - grab that LB upgrade they know they need - so there's still a good chance of one of those three making it to 6.

Edited February 21, 2016 by Inqui

[Inqui]

As for the question, I'd take Bosa and it's not particularly close. But I like how a lot of people here would prefer Buckner - I really hope at least one team ahead of us feels the same way (and it isn't Cleveland, haha).

[L.A.Ravens]

I have a really strong feeling the Cowboys will choose Ezekiel Elliott at 4. Cowboys always reach. Would mean a player we actually want falls one more spot.

Edited February 21, 2016 by L.A.Ravens