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NFL Combine Thread

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2 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Sucks having to watch the RB's and O-lineman today because:

a). We don't need a running back 

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b). O-linemen combines are boring by nature.

I was thinking that about the RB's. Quite a few teams are going to pick a decent player or two going off what I just saw. Was it Elliott that looked like he needed to work a little on his catching after a few dropped catches? He looked to be catching the ball very close to his body. 

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55 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

219 pounds I believe

Really talented player and did well back when Gurshall was a thing but torn ACL and other injuries hurt him the past couple years. Should mention that Gurley called a 4.3 time an hour before the run. I am thinking 4.3 official time as well.

He's one of those players that I'd usually say could have used another year of college ball (he could have petitioned for another year because of his injuries) but with Sony and Chubb he didn't have much of a choice, he wasn't getting any increase in touches if he stayed. He's fighting to be drafted and today is helping his case.

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Elliott may be ranked higher than Henry, but Henry is the one I want if available in the 2nd. Again that depends on if Noah Spence miraculously drops down to the second after terrible interviews at the combine! Wishful thinking I know.

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Keith Marshall had a got 40 but I didn't like what I saw from him in drills. He rounded his routes too much when he was told to cut sharp and he ran too upright for me. 

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I wouldn't be against taking a speedy RB in UDFA, none of our RBs have breakaway speed, all are above 4.5. Just a guy that can push for that sort of role as a returner/RB.

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Spriggs is looking good across the board, sub 5 40yd dash time is good (and was the best of all Olineman), 31 reps on the bench, second best 20 yard shuttle, wouldn't be surprised if he cracks the end of the first.

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Excited to see Blair go on Sunday with the Dlineman. His weigh in results were really good for a switch to OLB - 6'2", 284 lbs, 34" arms, 10.25" hands. If he can put up some solid numbers he'll rise.

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Whitehair did surprisingly bad in the bench press part. A lot lower than the other linemen. Spriggs did fairly well in it. It's nice to see Spriggs testing well, and I hope he's available in the 2nd.

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42 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Too bad we don't have an immediate need at RB. I would take Henry in the second without hesitation. 

You don't have to necessary spend your high pick on need - if the player that stands out is there and you like him, you pull the trigger no matter the position. I do hope we like Henry and he's there in 2nd. Buck and him would be pretty nice combo.

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4 hours ago, allblackraven said:

You don't have to necessary spend your high pick on need - if the player that stands out is there and you like him, you pull the trigger no matter the position. I do hope we like Henry and he's there in 2nd. Buck and him would be pretty nice combo.

Very true. Him, Forsett and buck could be formidable. 

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5 hours ago, hn68wb4 said:

Spriggs is looking good across the board, sub 5 40yd dash time is good (and was the best of all Olineman), 31 reps on the bench, second best 20 yard shuttle, wouldn't be surprised if he cracks the end of the first.

I'm surprised to see that bench number. He did himself some favors by showing better than expected strength

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I know it's only WalterFootball, so I'm filing this firmly in the "time will tell" category, but the word is that VH3 is going to wreck the combine - expected to log a 40 time in the 4.3s, complete the shuttles in under 4 seconds and a three-cone time under seven seconds.

I'm not saying it will or it won't happen, but with the kind of love he had during the season it should be worth keeping an eye on.

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8 hours ago, gabefergy said:

He's also 6'3"

No running back his weight finished with over 1000 yards. Wanna say the only one over 230 was Murray

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11 hours ago, hn68wb4 said:

Whitehair only got 16 reps on the bench, I knew he needed more upper body strength but jeeze man

If you read my post couple days ago you wouldn't be surprised. He needs about 20lbs of muscle to be very good in the NFL!!  I would of said 18-19 but he even underperformed that!!  lol

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Mike Mayock is a classic isn't he. Says he doesn't have a clue what time somebody is going to run in the 40 yet after the event has happened he says he knew it would be that time. Must have said it about 5 times already today.

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11 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

No running back his weight finished with over 1000 yards. Wanna say the only one over 230 was Murray

Jamal Lewis' playing weight was 245, and he ran for over 2000 yards in a season. The only thing that worries me about Henry is his height. It's hard to get lower than defensive players trying to tackle him when he's 6'3". For comparison's sake, Lewis was only 5'11".

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2 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Jamal Lewis' playing weight was 245, and he ran for over 2000 yards in a season. The only thing that worries me about Henry is his height. It's hard to get lower than defensive players trying to tackle him when he's 6'3". For comparison's sake, Lewis was only 5'11".

I haven't looked at all the stats yet, but the reason I worry is because of his acceleration. What was his 10 yard split?

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1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I haven't looked at all the stats yet, but the reason I worry is because of his acceleration. What was his 10 yard split?

1.61 I believe.

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Just now, ALI624 said:

Not sure but Elliott had a 1.58.

I'll refer to someone else on this one. Combine statistics aren't my strong suit, really, when it comes to judging what's really good and what's meh.

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Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

I'll refer to someone else on this one. Combine statistics aren't my strong suit, really, when it comes to judging what's really good and what's meh.

Yea me either I leave that to much smarter people.

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So, I just saw that Jaylon Smith's medicals indicated some pretty serious nerve damage and they may never fully heal (the average reproduction rate for a nerve cell is over 10 years), so there's a good chance he won't play in 2016 and there's a slim chance he's never 100% again.

He won't go in the first round, but I wonder if the Ravens take a flyer in round two.

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Let's talk about this Derrick Henry in the 2nd idea.

You can cite example after example of college RB's who put up gaudy numbers and flopped in the NFL because their game didn't translate. You don't draft stats, you draft prospects. The only time I'm impressed with Henry is when he has a huge lane and get's a head of steam. Other than that he just looks stiff to me, his pad level is too high... Even a guy like Le'Veon Bell who is a tall RB at 6'1 keeps his pad level much lower and has a definitively lower center of gravity compared to Henry. I honestly think he's going to take a beating in the NFL running upright like that with that body type/style. I don't see longevity.

 

Here's some food for thought. Only 1 RB in the entire NFL carried the ball over 300 times last year (Adrian Peterson). Guys like Chris Johnson and Arian Foster have had swift declines directly after 350+ carry seasons, that's an absolute fact. Henry carried the ball 395 times last year (The most in CFB and it's not even close)! That's just absolutely ridiculous volume.. there are just so many reasons to be scared about drafting this guy in the 2nd round. Elliot has never carried over 300 times in a season (Not that he would be there in the 2nd but for comparison purposes), Henry is coming off a near 400 carry season, Alabama ran him with reckless abandon for his long term career last year.

 

 

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