NFL Combine Thread

[L.A.Ravens]

Jalen Ramsey won't be there at 6 . He absolutely killed it today! He's the best prospect. Every drill was better then Patrick Peterson.

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

My tier 1 guys are tunsil, ramsey, bosa, buckner, and Jack. Tier 2 is vh3 and Shaq lawson, and if Shaq Lawson trims down and shows an ability to play olb with real explosiveness then he would step into my tier 1, idk he just grew on me because I thought he was gonna barely run a sub 5 second 40 and I'm now impressed with his overall potential knowing he is more athletic than I originally thought

Your tier 1 is spot on and unless the weasel browns don't take a QB, then we will luckily land one of them! I keep saying that it will be Jack or Buckner based on Jacksonville's preference.

[cursona pirate]

I'm still for Doctson. I love my TCU Frogs. 

[GrimCoconut]

4 hours ago, PolishRifle said:

There will be a run on defensive players and especially DBs in the draft, I can see some good offensive players falling. We might end up with a really good WR in the 2nd or 3rd round. I like Doctson in the 2nd. ^.^

Why do you think there will be a run? It's not like this doesn't happen every year

[Deflated Football]

What would it take to move up to three to select Ramsey?

[Cillmatic]

Just now, Deflated Football said:

What would it take to move up to three to select Ramsey?

A first born...

[chunkywill25]

Man, hargreaves is becoming a realistic option at 6 again. really like his hands

[PolishRifle]

1 minute ago, chunkywill25 said:

Man, hargreaves is becoming a realistic option at 6 again. really like his hands

He might be gone when we pick actually.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

A first born...

Luckily I just had one of those 9 days ago. 

 

How do I call the chargers to make this happen? 

 

And now the overwhelming guilt of that post is setting in...

[JoeyFlex5]

1 minute ago, PolishRifle said:

He might be gone when we pick actually.

If so then we are getting someone much much better, like bosa or Jack or Ramsey.

[PolishRifle]

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

If so then we are getting someone much much better, like bosa or Jack or Ramsey.

Jack might slide down and I'll be happy, if he does. Bosa and Ramsey are going in the top 5. That's my guess.

[chunkywill25]

3 minutes ago, PolishRifle said:

He might be gone when we pick actually.

I wouldn't be mad. Any of these 6 would be a dream come true.. bosa, buckner, ramsey, jack, tunsil, or hargreaves. We can't lose. Hargreaves just looks like a playmaker and we need turnovers 

[JoeyFlex5]

At this point I think we just need to hope that we don't select tread or zeke at 6 and hope whoever we get stays healthy, is this happens then we get great value and a great player who Will fit like a glove. 

 

And personally I hope we don't become enamored with alexander, far too raw of a cb for 6th overall

[L.A.Ravens]

1 minute ago, chunkywill25 said:

I wouldn't be mad. Any of these 6 would be a dream come true.. bosa, buckner, ramsey, jack, tunsil, or hargreaves. We can't lose. Hargreaves just looks like a playmaker and we need turnovers 

Either way if we stay at 6 the Ravens will have a impact player. The two spots we must address in this draft are the two deepest in the draft. DB and DE/LB.

[Clmraven]

1 hour ago, rudywasoffsides said:

Dude he won the super bowl as their GM and quite frankly managed the cap far better than we have in recent years since they seem to have way more guys on their squad who they payed mega deals for and we only have a few and are somehow still up against the cap just like them. I wouldn't take him over Ozzie at all, but you can't hate on Elway because I wish Oz would have mortgaged our future if it would have gotten us another Lombardi Trophy last year

The only reason they had cap space to sign big names is because their best in house guys were still on rookie contracts, I'm waiting to see where they'll be when they give Miller his mega contract, they already paid DT big money, they payed up for Derek Wolfe,they could lose Malik Jackson who is highly underrated, and they may be forced to overpay Brock osweiler.

[ravefan52]

VH3 looks exactly like Buster Skrine. As a player though, I'm still a big Hargreaves fan. I think he could definitely be in contention at 6. His biggest downside is his height but he plays big.

[JoeyFlex5]

Where do you all think William Jackson ends up after his sub 4.4 40? I loved him for our second round pick before and I like Him there even more now as I was expecting a mid 4.4 range, but will he be there? I'm also a fan of spriggs there

[Winchester]

14 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

The only reason they had cap space to sign big names is because their best in house guys were still on rookie contracts, I'm waiting to see where they'll be when they give Miller his mega contract, they already paid DT big money, they payed up for Derek Wolfe,they could lose Malik Jackson who is highly underrated, and they may be forced to overpay Brock osweiler.

The Broncos were still paying a QB big money so that is no excuse. Elway just managed the cap better. Resigning their players while active in free agency.  While psying an expendive qb. Give credit for having impact players on rookie contracts!! The ravens payed all the wrong players early and left the better players to hit free agency. Now the best guard in the league is hitting free agency while Ozzie franchises his kicker lol. The ravens would love to have to have to sign von Miller. the only edge rusher drafted in last 4 drafts is Upshaw. 

Edited February 29, 2016 by Winchester

[L.A.Ravens]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Where do you all think William Jackson ends up after his sub 4.4 40? I loved him for our second round pick before and I like Him there even more now as I was expecting a mid 4.4 range, but will he be there? I'm also a fan of spriggs there

2nd round pick 5: Ravens pick!

[L.A.Ravens]

On Ebony report they had us trade the 2nd round pick along with our first 4th round pick to Houston for there 22nd pick to pick up WR Doctson. If that is reality to trade up that high and only lose a 4th round pick they should go for it. But pick up a CB if we don't get one with the first pick.

[Edgar]

41 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

What would it take to move up to three to select Ramsey?

No. 

[RaineV1]

45 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Where do you all think William Jackson ends up after his sub 4.4 40? I loved him for our second round pick before and I like Him there even more now as I was expecting a mid 4.4 range, but will he be there? I'm also a fan of spriggs there

I think he still falls unless there's a run on CBS. Ramsey, Alexander, VH3, and Eli Apple probably go ahead of him. But if five CBs go in the first, then it's very possible Jackson is gone. That could happen if both the Bengals and Steelers go CB in the first. Him and Spriggs would be my top two choices for the 2nd round.

Edited February 29, 2016 by RaineV1

[gabefergy]

1 hour ago, sflegend89 said:

 

I said Bosa would be good as a 3-4 OLB, just stating that his body type/skill set is profiled more as more of a 4-3 DE. There are fundamental differences between them that you are underplaying. There's a reason teams look for different body types/skill sets depending on their defensive scheme, the profiling of Edge rushers isn't trivial.  When you have an Edge as athletic and talented as Bosa he's not just a scheme specific player but he no doubt checks more boxes as a 4-3 DE. Spence has a prototypical 3-4 OLB body type, it's also not a matter of dropping into coverage "a handful more times" it's considerably more. Being a 3-4 OLB is about being versatile, being able to play in space, you aren't always rushing the passer, go look at Von Miller's pick against the Patriots where Brady was anticipating the rush and instead Miller dropped into coverage, it's a multi-faceted position. 4-3 DE's are in a perpetual state of forward motion whether that's rushing the pass or sealing the edge in run support which is basically all we saw out of Bosa at OSU.

 

I think Bosa can absolutely transition to being a 3-4 OLB, he may not have the ideal body type but he makes up for it with his athleticism, I don't think it will stop us from drafting him if he's there and I also said he's the more coveted prospect. Just stating that if you're looking at our defense Spence has the body type/skill set that actually is more of a natural fit as a 3-4 OLB, I think Spence plays in space better than Bosa because he's a smaller/leaner guy.

I don't know what type of body-type you think the Ravens are looking for in a 3-4 OLB, but Bosa fits the mold more closely than Spence based off their history of picking OLBs.

Terrell Suggs was 6'3"/263 pounds

Paul Kruger was 6'4"/263 pounds

Courtney Upshaw was 6'2"/272 pounds

Pernell McPhee was 6'3"/278 pounds

Joey Bosa is 6'5"/269 pounds which is right in line with previous Ravens OLBs.

They clearly prefer bigger OLBs, so in reality Spence who is listed at 6'2"/251 would be the outlier, not Bosa.

Given the fact that Bosa fared considerably better in agility tests and has similar speed despite weighing 20 pounds more, I fail to see how Bosa doesn't fit the profile for OLB but Spence does. 

 

 

[JoeyFlex5]

32 minutes ago, ravefan52 said:

VH3 looks exactly like Buster Skrine. As a player though, I'm still a big Hargreaves fan. I think he could definitely be in contention at 6. His biggest downside is his height but he plays big.

I don't see that really.. I think he compares favorably to Brent grimes or Chris Harris Jr. Vh3 could be a top 5 corner easily so skrine is really selling him Short as a comparison

[Deflated Football]

24 minutes ago, Edgar said:

No. 

Great answer. Thanks for your wonderful insight. 

 

I never said I would like it, just curious what the cost of moving up three spots is if the Ravens wanted Ramsey and wouldn't leave day one without him. 

[Edgar]

5 minutes ago, Deflated Football said:

Great answer. Thanks for your wonderful insight. 

 

I never said I would like it, just curious what the cost of moving up three spots is if the Ravens wanted Ramsey and wouldn't leave day one without him. 

It would (according to draft value chart) likely cost our 2nd and our later fourth. I guess it's possible San Diego might try to get as much as they could though.

[lgcs27288]

44 minutes ago, gabefergy said:

I don't know what type of body-type you think the Ravens are looking for in a 3-4 OLB, but Bosa fits the mold more closely than Spence based off their history of picking OLBs.

Terrell Suggs was 6'3"/263 pounds

Paul Kruger was 6'4"/263 pounds

Courtney Upshaw was 6'2"/272 pounds

Pernell McPhee was 6'3"/278 pounds

Joey Bosa is 6'5"/269 pounds which is right in line with previous Ravens OLBs.

They clearly prefer bigger OLBs, so in reality Spence who is listed at 6'2"/251 would be the outlier, not Bosa.

Given the fact that Bosa fared considerably better in agility tests and has similar speed despite weighing 20 pounds more, I fail to see how Bosa doesn't fit the profile for OLB but Spence does. 

 

 

Is there a reason you left off Dumervil? He's 5'11"/255...

Edited February 29, 2016 by lgcs27288

[dpatrickguy]

1 minute ago, lgcs27288 said:

Is there a reason you left off Dumervil? He's 5'11"/255...

I assume he was just talking about people we drafted

[ravefan52]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I don't see that really.. I think he compares favorably to Brent grimes or Chris Harris Jr. Vh3 could be a top 5 corner easily so skrine is really selling him Short as a comparison

Nah I was talking about their faces.

[Deflated Football]

50 minutes ago, Edgar said:

It would (according to draft value chart) likely cost our 2nd and our later fourth. I guess it's possible San Diego might try to get as much as they could though.

Thank you.

 

Eh, I'm not sure about that. I reallyyyyy want Doctson in the second if he slides. VH3, Bosa, Buckner or Stanley is who I think we'll get at 6.