Whats your favorite 1-2 round combo?

[Underdogsontop!]

On February 14, 2016 at 6:23 AM, Jacquouille said:

Agreed, Ozzie will go BPA in the two first rounds, so if there's a faller for us in the 2nd he won't hesitate. However I think Thompson is fully worth an early 2nd round pick.

 

Thompson is not known for being blazing fast, so I don't see it happening, fortunately. 

If he trains hard enough jus for the 40time and cuts down more he could run under 4.5. Never know..... If he cut down to 195lbs jus for the combine and worked with a sprinting coach, a lot could be possible. 

[Jacquouille]

The more I look at it, the more I am convinced that we will either end up with Buckner or Myles Jack.

[sflegend89]

Ramsey/Doctson... Honestly not that unrealistic, what a killer start to the draft that would be.

[Wildabeast88]

On February 18, 2016 at 9:41 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

i actually have mocked him with our first 4th round pick but i admit i dont know much about his stock, i just know he doesnt exactly get hype in the media lol

4th round is generally where most have him some late 3rd but mostly early to mid 4th

[Winchester]

Trade down couple slots draft Spence then trade up for nkemdiche. For my dollars nkemdiche will be a top10 Defensive player in the nfl. In round3 I like Demarcus Robinson or Deion Jones. Has some drama but in my opinion the best receiver in the draft!! If ravens got Spence and Nkemdiche the defense and rush would be  ferocious!! Then add Demarcus Robinson and it could be the best harvest ravens ever produced since Ogden Lewis!! If ravens could land Spence Nkemdiche Deion Jones and Demarcus Robinson that could one if best harvests ever in football. But in a somewhat weak draft Deion Jones will go before round3. But Spence Nkemdiche and Demarcus Robinson is a very good day at the office. It is what you really call getting in early on exploding  stocks.

Edited February 24, 2016 by Winchester

[DomMcRaven]

4 hours ago, Winchester said:

Trade down couple slots draft Spence then trade up for nkemdiche. For my dollars nkemdiche will be a top10 Defensive player in the nfl. In round3 I like Demarcus Robinson or Deion Jones. Has some drama but in my opinion the best receiver in the draft!! If ravens got Spence and Nkemdiche the defense and rush would be  ferocious!! Then add Demarcus Robinson and it could be the best harvest ravens ever produced!! If ravens could land Spence Nkemdiche Deion Jones and Demarcus Robinson that could one if best harvests ever in football. But in a somewhat weak draft Deion Jones will go before round3. But Spence Nkemdiche and Demarcus Robinson is a very good day at the office. It is what you really call getting in early on exploding  stocks.

So how do you really feel about Nkemdiche, Spence, and Demarcus Robinson?

[Jacquouille]

5 hours ago, Winchester said:

Trade down couple slots draft Spence then trade up for nkemdiche. For my dollars nkemdiche will be a top10 Defensive player in the nfl. In round3 I like Demarcus Robinson or Deion Jones. Has some drama but in my opinion the best receiver in the draft!! If ravens got Spence and Nkemdiche the defense and rush would be  ferocious!! Then add Demarcus Robinson and it could be the best harvest ravens ever produced!! If ravens could land Spence Nkemdiche Deion Jones and Demarcus Robinson that could one if best harvests ever in football. But in a somewhat weak draft Deion Jones will go before round3. But Spence Nkemdiche and Demarcus Robinson is a very good day at the office. It is what you really call getting in early on exploding  stocks.

Not really enjoying the idea of having two promblematic childs together but there certainly is some talent. 

Still, no thanks , would rather have Chris Jones in the 3rd than Nkemdiche in the 1st. 

Edited February 24, 2016 by Jacquouille

[ngatainmyhouse]

54 minutes ago, DomMcRaven said:

So how do you really feel about Nkemdiche, Spence, and Demarcus Robinson?

Would turn the Ravens into a reality tv show

[Winchester]

57 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Not really enjoying the idea of having two promblematic childs together but there certainly is some talent. 

Still, no thanks , would rather have Chris Jones in the 3rd than Nkemdiche in the 1st. 

Not really enjoying the idea of having players talented enough for a dominating defense?? You would seriously prefer chris jones or even Buckner?? Keep in mind dominating defenses win championships!! not average or even slightly above average. Fans can pump up players like Scrubshaw and Zadarius as much as liked. Weed is problematic yet you have thug players out there fighting dogs,cops  and refereeing fights between mother of kids and gfs. And knocking gfs out cold on elevators. Yet many ravens fans wanted Rice back. It is comical!! Spence's problems are behind him and let's see how nkemdiche drug tests go. He really loves football unlike clowney and Blackmon who just happen to have immense talent. Nkemdiche has raw talent nearly of a jj watt. And Harbs is a master motivator.I like your posts Jacq but would you seriously prefer waiting for Chris Jones or Buckner to breakout and defending their average play while watching Spence and Nkemdiche dominate on rival teams??

[Jacquouille]

28 minutes ago, Winchester said:

Not really enjoying the idea of having players talented enough for a dominating defense?? You would seriously prefer chris jones or even Buckner?? Keep in mind dominating defenses win championships!! not average or even slightly above average. Fans can pump up players like Scrubshaw and Zadarius as much as liked. Weed is problematic yet you have thug players out there fighting dogs,cops  and refereeing fights between mother of kids and gfs. And knocking gfs out cold on elevators. Yet many ravens fans wanted Rice back. It is comical!! Spence's problems are behind him and let's see how nkemdiche drug tests go. He really loves football unlike clowney and Blackmon who just happen to have immense talent. Nkemdiche has raw talent nearly of a jj watt. And Harbs is a master motivator.I like your posts Jacq but would you seriously prefer waiting for Chris Jones or Buckner to breakout and defending their average play while watching Spence and Nkemdiche dominate on rival teams??

First, the problem isn't really Spence, more the fact of him associatied with another problem guy, which makes the risk of having problems again bigger. I said the same thing for Spence and Boyd, it makes me unconfortable. 

Otherwise, I don't see bigger potential in Nkemdiche than in Chris Jones, and Buckner is two floors higher than both, you can't deny that.

And I don't agree with the "above average defense stuff". You need a solid all-around defense coupled with three or four elite players. I mean, you put Miller, Ware and Harris Jr out of Denver, it's an average defense. Same goes for the Panthers. 

[Baltimore RAYvens]

Ramsey/Ogbah looks like it's becoming like a realistic scenario. Talk about getting playmakers

[CorvusMagnus]

Football has both an intellectual and a physical component, and no player can be good (let alone great) without at least a basic measure of both. Watching Nkemdiche anyone can see his physical gifts as an interior penetrator, and anyone who watches Aaron Donald knows how much of a game wrecker that kind of interior pressure can be.

What people don't get about Donald is that in addition to his athletic gifts he is also smart and instinctive enough to make the most of that initial penetration. In situations where Donald is schemed against, he identifies the ball carrier quickly and works his way through traffic to put himself back in the play. Nkemdiche has some freakish plays in college, but he also has plays where he becomes a non-factor because he is unable to grasp the situation quickly enough.

I think of him as a defensive version of Cordarrelle Patterson, someone whose athletic gifts are too great to keep out of the league, but will probably never have a grasp of the game sufficient to realize more then a fraction of his potential (assuming he can even stay in the league). Personally, I wouldn't touch him until the second or some crazy scenario where we traded down to the bottom of the 1st.

Edited February 24, 2016 by CorvusMagnus

[Winchester]

57 minutes ago, CorvusMagnus said:

Football has both an intellectual and a physical component, and no player can be good (let alone great) without at least a basic measure of both. Watching Nkemdiche anyone can see his physical gifts as an interior penetrator, and anyone who watches Aaron Donald knows how much of a game wrecker that kind of interior pressure can be.

What people don't get about Donald is that in addition to his athletic gifts he is also smart and instinctive enough to make the most of that initial penetration. In situations where Donald is schemed against, he identifies the ball carrier quickly and works his way through traffic to put himself back in the play. Nkemdiche has some freakish plays in college, but he also has plays where he becomes a non-factor because he is unable to grasp the situation quickly enough.

I think of him as a defensive version of Cordarrelle Patterson, someone whose athletic gifts are too great to keep out of the league, but will probably never have a grasp of the game sufficient to realize more then a fraction of his potential (assuming he can even stay in the league). Personally, I wouldn't touch him until the second or some crazy scenario where we traded down to the bottom of the 1st.

Nkemdiche will pick it up. Will take longer and more reps but he loves football and will get it. Patterson's issues run deeper than intelligence.lol 

[January J]

I'm gonna have to go with Spence/Thompson. That's two playmakers, which is what we desperately need- sacks and turnovers. Then if we can get a decent receiver in the third or fourth I'd say that'd be a real success.

[January J]

I'd be satisfied with Jack/Yannick as well. Then maybe we could try to trade up in the third for one of the falling cbs..

We are not that far away on defense...one or two missing links ..add a little speed and another playmaker and everything else could fall into place and really start clicking. Add in Leslie Frazier and we could get right back to the dominant ravens of old.

Edited February 25, 2016 by January J

[L.A.Ravens]

Ramsey at 6, trade up to end of first for Spence. Take a wide out with 3. Successful draft. 

[CorvusMagnus]

I'll say Jack/Ramsey and Spriggs.

Jack, because he has HOF upside in a position of current weakness that will become an even greater weakness next year (ILB coverage).
Ramsey, because he has a similar upside to Jack in several positions of weakness.
Spriggs because our EDGE and CB depth are nowhere near as thin and injury prone as our OT depth.

Any draft that starts with those three names will be alright in my book

[ellicottraven]

Has anybody considered the possibility that Ezekiel Elliot may be ranked very high on our board? He is a stud that is a better version of Gurley both in size and play I've heard. So, don't be shocked if we do select him if Bosa, Ramsey and Buckner are taken.

[usmccharles]

15 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Has anybody considered the possibility that Ezekiel Elliot may be ranked very high on our board? He is a stud that is a better version of Gurley both in size and play I've heard. So, don't be shocked if we do select him if Bosa, Ramsey and Buckner are taken.

I could see him ranked high, but I cant for the life of me see us taking him at 6.  If we were picking in the 15ish range, I could see it, maybe.  But with our struggles on defense and defense being such a need, taking a RB wouldn't make much sense, especially considering how well you can find value in later rounds. 

[polynesian15]

9 hours ago, January J said:

I'm gonna have to go with Spence/Thompson. That's two playmakers, which is what we desperately need- sacks and turnovers. Then if we can get a decent receiver in the third or fourth I'd say that'd be a real success.

So do you think we're set at corner with Jimmy + Wright?
I'm beginning to warm more on Hargreaves if the elite guys are gone or maybe Will Jackson in the second. I feel corner is a bigger need than safety at the moment, Webb and Hill will more than suffice imo.
But who the devil knows, I'm putting my faith in the FO. Most importantly we need a playmaker/gamechanger at #6.

[Jacquouille]

10 hours ago, January J said:

I'd be satisfied with Jack/Yannick as well. Then maybe we could try to trade up in the third for one of the falling cbs..

We are not that far away on defense...one or two missing links ..add a little speed and another playmaker and everything else could fall into place and really start clicking. Add in Leslie Frazier and we could get right back to the dominant ravens of old.

I'd wait one more round before Yannick, he lacks strength atm.Apart from that: yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. 

100% agreed  

[Jaybirds]

5 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Has anybody considered the possibility that Ezekiel Elliot may be ranked very high on our board? He is a stud that is a better version of Gurley both in size and play I've heard. So, don't be shocked if we do select him if Bosa, Ramsey and Buckner are taken.

I have definitely thought this.  I believe we have him higher than Treadwell, possibly Stanley as well.  I think he'd be a long term upgrade for us at an important position.  I think he'd do very well in Trestman's offense.  I think he'd indirectly take pressure off our wide receivers and our defense.  The pick makes a lot of sense to me.  But let's just say it's not a popular opinion around here. 

[xxDarby]

On 2/24/2016 at 4:24 AM, Winchester said:

Trade down couple slots draft Spence then trade up for nkemdiche. For my dollars nkemdiche will be a top10 Defensive player in the nfl. In round3 I like Demarcus Robinson or Deion Jones. Has some drama but in my opinion the best receiver in the draft!! If ravens got Spence and Nkemdiche the defense and rush would be  ferocious!! Then add Demarcus Robinson and it could be the best harvest ravens ever produced since Ogden Lewis!! If ravens could land Spence Nkemdiche Deion Jones and Demarcus Robinson that could one if best harvests ever in football. But in a somewhat weak draft Deion Jones will go before round3. But Spence Nkemdiche and Demarcus Robinson is a very good day at the office. It is what you really call getting in early on exploding  stocks.

No way we can trade back and then get Spence

[January J]

6 hours ago, polynesian15 said:

So to poibgehJacksonre set at corner wi th    Jimdery  + Wright?skipsbeginning to war m more on Hargr eaves if the elite guys are gone or maybe Will Jackson in the second. I feel corner is a bigger need than safety at the moment, Webb and Hill will more than suffice imo.
But who the devil knows, I'm putting my faith in the FO. Most importantly we need a playmaker/gamechanger at #6.

Your right, After watchin ozzies Presser yesterday i Think cb Is a bigger need. They seem to be Pretty confident about moving webb To safety, and corner is a much bigger Need, esp if we release arrington. If joe Doesnt Get restructured id Almost guarentee It- along with quite a few others. So id Have to change my pick to spence/Fuller or apple. hargreaves Is a tough one and i Dont Know why so many have soured on him (including me) but he just worries me. Although i Def wouldnt Hate it. some other interesting combos would be jack/jackson , Buckner/Coleman, or Bosa/Scooby wright.

Whoever brought up elliot Being high on our board brings up an intersting Point. It does seem like an ozzie type of curveball. But no way at 6. 15 MAYBE. but if he slips Into the second i Dont Think he would hesitate to pull the trigger one bit.

[ngatainmyhouse]

1st Bosa/Buckner

2nd Jackson/Apple

3rd Scooby Wright

4th Schobert

OR

1st Jack

2nd Jackson/Apple

3rd Sterling Shepard

4th Matakevich

 

These two scenarios would be my realistic ideal situations. Tunsil and Ramsey are a guarantee to not make it to 6

[ellicottraven]

11 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I could see him ranked high, but I cant for the life of me see us taking him at 6.  If we were picking in the 15ish range, I could see it, maybe.  But with our struggles on defense and defense being such a need, taking a RB wouldn't make much sense, especially considering how well you can find value in later rounds. 

I agree with your general sentiment. But, if Ezikiel indeed is as talented as touted, then imagine what he would do for Flacco and the offense. However, with the latest news that the Ravens are bringing in Trent Richardson to work out and possibly sign, it makes me wonder what in the world are we doing or thinking. That is about the most asinine news I have heard all morning. But, could it be to confuse other teams that we may indeed be targeting Ezekiel? You know the thing with spin is you can spin it in any direction....

Edited February 25, 2016 by ellicottraven

[DynastyofBaltimore]

It's not asking for my realistic opinion of what I think is going to happen so if I had a choice I would get Bosa and Spence. Amp up the pass rush so much, make out LB-DE corps undeniably strong. Terrell Suggs, Elvis Dumervil, CJ Mosely, maybe D. Smith if we don't cut him, Bosa, and Spence? Obviously not going to happen but I love thinking about it. 

[RavensDieHard21]

On 2/20/2016 at 4:16 AM, Jacquouille said:

The more I look at it, the more I am convinced that we will either end up with Buckner or Myles Jack.

I agree, we might hope Bosa or Ramsey fall, but in reality one of them will most likely be there at #6, which I'd be excited to have either one.

[RavensDieHard21]

23 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Has anybody considered the possibility that Ezekiel Elliot may be ranked very high on our board? He is a stud that is a better version of Gurley both in size and play I've heard. So, don't be shocked if we do select him if Bosa, Ramsey and Buckner are taken.

I am not denying that he is talented, but him being picked at #6 on draft day is going to instantly trigger thousands of bowls of popcorn to be thrown through the air, I see Henry as a more likely ozzie pick in the second.

[RavensDieHard21]

I had the craziest dream, but a potential one....

Bosa runs a slower 40 than expected, Buckner blows up the combine and moves ahead of him on many boards and so doesn't one more defensive talent, which leads to ....

RD1(6): Joey Bosa- helps the pass rush, the run game and allows us to slowly get Sizzle into the full time lineup, along with a third dangerous pass rusher

Jackson III, Fuller, and Apple start to gain some momentum after the combine and become favorites to go after Ramsey and Hargreaves, accompanied by teams becoming scared of Alexander's lack of ball skills and turning his head to make plays on the ball which causes him to tumble 

RD2: Mackensie Alexander- could be a real shut down corner and at worst will be a top notch nickel corner like a Robey or Verrett, but I think he is still so young that with time he will make a lock down duo with Jimmy. 

RD3: Scooby Wright: an injury filled season gives teams a scare, which allows us to grab one of the most productive and versatile linebackers from just a year ago who showed up big in the bowl game. In due time would replace D. Smith...

More realistically though, Rd(1) Jack, Rd(2) Jackson, Rd(3) Shepard.