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Whats your favorite 1-2 round combo?

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41 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

The more I see of him, the more I am convinced that if Myles Jack is there at 6, he's our guy. He would add so much more to our defense than any of the CBs or pass rushers in this draft. His talent is truly special.

Yeah. He is a unique talent in just about any class and I agree about us taking him if he's there. Wonder how Pees would use him,move him around and truly get the most out of such a special player. I wonder sometimes.

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1 hour ago, Jacquouille said:

C'mon...

 

Well then I may be completely unable to see the difference on films!

Look at someone like Eli Harold from last year and you'll see a big difference in first step and acceleration from Calhoun.

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34 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Yeah. He is a unique talent in just about any class and I agree about us taking him if he's there. Wonder how Pees would use him,move him around and truly get the most out of such a special player. I wonder sometimes.

I see him being used as an OLB, always lined up on the edge, next to a WR, so that he can either rush the passer or drop into coverage, or be a spy (which, imo, would be silly considering all the other things he could do, but it's Pees). 

 

25 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

Look at someone like Eli Harold from last year and you'll see a big difference in first step and acceleration from Calhoun.

Will do, thanks

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3 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

The more I see of him, the more I am convinced that if Myles Jack is there at 6, he's our guy. He would add so much more to our defense than any of the CBs or pass rushers in this draft. His talent is truly special.

Ya ive been feeling the same way. Ive watched so much tape on him lately and even went back to his highschool tape and his athleticism is through the roof. Im not too worried about his scheme fit as i think our scheme is very flexible and also asks linebackers to have speed. We need speed in the middle of the feild and he can mesh well with mosely i think. He would be very versatile for pees, and could be moved around to throw off defenses. I think it would be a tough call for us to pick between buckner and jack and im starting to think buckner could very well be off the board but if not thats a tough call. I feel more drawn to picking jack because of the need for speed on our defense. Bpa between those 2 is too much of a toss up

 

 

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Myles jack and william jackson III

These two guys would immediately bolster our defense, playmakers and also versatility as we all know jack can do everything lol but jackson is a very good special teams player as well, something harbaugh loves and something that gives us even more value with our pick. A lot of people notice his bowl game but ill give him a shoutout for the previous game where he had 7 passes defensed lol. He had 5int and 23pds last year. Crazy production and he fits our mold of a corner

Wed then have jack and mosely then jimmy and william. Two good tandems for a long time to come. Then if we could get boyd or sheppard with our third it would be a near perfect draft. 

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1st - Jaylon Smith / Myles Jack

2nd - Cody Whitehair / Jason Spriggs 

3rd - Sterling Shepard / Yannick Ngakoue

4th - Cyrus Jones

4th - Kenyan Drake

4th - Charone Peake

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13 minutes ago, ngatainmyhouse said:

1st - Jaylon Smith / Myles Jack

2nd - Cody Whitehair / Jason Spriggs 

3rd - Sterling Shepard / Yannick Ngakoue

4th - Cyrus Jones

5th - Bralon Addison / Charone Peake

We have 3 4th, and no 5th

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On 2/14/2016 at 11:43 PM, ellicottraven said:

Ideally, Jalen Ramsey and Josh Doctson. Realistically Noah Spence and Cody Whitehair

A top rated guard in the second would be a sneaky great move and would keep the interior of the line stout, I like that pick

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If the stars were to align then: 

1.) Ramsey, but will most likely be snagged between Chargers and Jags.

2.) Spence, character issues causes him to slide and we move up to get him. 

Realistic 1-2 picks:

1.) Hargreaves, I'd say Buckner, but the pesky jags keep crushing our hopes in most mock drafts.

.2.) Nkemdiche or Floyd, Nkemdiche without off the field issues getting in his way might develop into an elite blue chip player and Floyd with an extra 8-10 lbs to improve his strength paired with his speed could make him a deadly pass rusher

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1 minute ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

If the stars were to align then: 

1.) Ramsey, but will most likely be snagged between Chargers and Jags.

2.) Spence, lack of character causes him to slide and we move up to get him.

This is utterly incorrect.

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35 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

This is utterly incorrect.

character issues, off the field issues, etc. makes more sense referring to his drug problems in the past

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14 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Imo yes, our place is perfect to take him with our third pick.

It could be a good place to take him, but I wouldn't be surprised if Shepard went in the late 2nd. The Chiefs in particular could really want to get him to give them a playmaker at WR.

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37 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

It could be a good place to take him, but I wouldn't be surprised if Shepard went in the late 2nd. The Chiefs in particular could really want to get him to give them a playmaker at WR.

I follow the chiefs alot, and I think What they really need is a tall receiver, red zone target. They already have shifty playmakers in Maclin and Conley. Imo they'll take a Josh Doctson type of wr.

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I will say this about Myles Jack- If the Ravens truly wanted to move to the Tampa 2 after grabbing two coaches who utilized that scheme before (Pees used to run the 4-3 in NE, albeit not the Tampa 2), Jack would be an extremely good fit, him or Jaylon Smith. They'd both likely play the WILL, but they'd bring the much needed athleticism. 

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1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I will say this about Myles Jack- If the Ravens truly wanted to move to the Tampa 2 after grabbing two coaches who utilized that scheme before (Pees used to run the 4-3 in NE, albeit not the Tampa 2), Jack would be an extremely good fit, him or Jaylon Smith. They'd both likely play the WILL, but they'd bring the much needed athleticism. 

I think move to a Tampa 2 or 4-3 would open things up a bit more, it seems 4-3 players are easier to find these days, I'm noticing more and more undersized and athletic LBs and DTs, but think if we were to switch, we'd be better off going with a base 4-3, we don't have enough speed to play a Tampa 2 plus Jimmy smith is more of a man cover corner so putting him in a zone heavy scheme wouldn't be the best fit.

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9 hours ago, usmccharles said:

is round 2 too early for shepherd?

@usmccharles. No it isn't at all. I don't know that he'll be taken by us there but he'll come off the board somewhere in the second. I'm supporting us trading back to acquire an additional pick and grabbing him or Boyd/Fuller. I like that Shepard has lined up in multiple positions in/outside and succeeded. His skill set is sorely missed here. Refer to link below for examples.

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2016/2/15/10982382/baltimore-ravens-offseason-roundtable-part-i-the-draft

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29 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

I think move to a Tampa 2 or 4-3 would open things up a bit more, it seems 4-3 players are easier to find these days, I'm noticing more and more undersized and athletic LBs and DTs, but think if we were to switch, we'd be better off going with a base 4-3, we don't have enough speed to play a Tampa 2 plus Jimmy smith is more of a man cover corner so putting him in a zone heavy scheme wouldn't be the best fit.

The Tampa 2 does employ other coverages, and it can be tweaked to fit the players already there. However, It's still going to feature a lot of the principles I think Jimmy would favor. It requires a jam to reroute the receivers to the outside, using the sideline as leverage, and then allows corners to sit down and jump routes.

With that said, Mosley and Jack would be your ideal linebackers for the 4-3. Mosley has sideline to sideline range, even if his pass defense in man coverage is a work in progress. He's still got the athleticism necessary. And Jack? Well, yeah, we all know. 

It would also be an ideal fit for Jernigan. He's the idea 3T to rush the passer in a one gap scheme. And BWill wouldn't lose any value since most of these teams (probably all) feature a prototypical nose tackle type.

I think it could work.

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Being a stranger to the 4-3 schemes, I can't argue with what has been said. However I think Myles Jack would have plenty of fun in a 3-4, where he could occupy at will any of the LB spot, depending on how he or Pees wants to affect the opponent's weakness. He could be a pain for the opposing OC to deal with, being able to do everything.

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6 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Being a stranger to the 4-3 schemes, I can't argue with what has been said. However I think Myles Jack would have plenty of fun in a 3-4, where he could occupy at will any of the LB spot, depending on how he or Pees wants to affect the opponent's weakness. He could be a pain for the opposing OC to deal with, being able to do everything.

Jack will be a beast in any scheme. Another poster did raise a valid point about whether or not Pees will take advantage of his abilities, and I think it's a fair question. He's shown a willingness to move around OLBs and DL in unique ways, but the back end stays relatively vanilla. How Jack would fit in is an interesting question, but at a minimum I would expect more 4-3 looks even in traditional sub-package scenarios. He can do so much more than your average LB.

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