The Rumor Mill

[rmw10]

1 hour ago, Cillmatic said:

With this signing and the Safety signing I think they'd pass on Ramsey.

Prince is only on a 1 year deal.  I think it makes it a bit less likely, but I wouldn't rule it out being that they still don't have a long term option at CB.

[Inqui]

3 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Prince is only on a 1 year deal.  I think it makes it a bit less likely, but I wouldn't rule it out being that they still don't have a long term option at CB.

Tbh what makes me think they're not as high on Ramsey as I once thought was the signing of Gipson. The linchpins of that system are the safeties and LBs, and Posluszny isn't a long-term solution at all for them. Coverage from their LBs is a huge issue - even with Telvin Smith - as is rushing yardage in the second level so LB's almost just as serious a need for them imo. I was on the "Ramsey to Jacksonville" wagon until Gipson signed, but now I think they go with Jack. There are plenty of ways to get both him and Telvin on the field together.

What I'll also say is that, aside from Jaylon himself (which goes without saying), the Jags are probably the biggest losers with his injury. I think he'd have been a perfect cornerstone piece for them.

[ALPHA]

I think Ramsey in about 2-3 years is an elite safety, he's like a more athletic Malcolm Jenkins.

[KBoum]

Would you guys be interested in Weddle on a 1 or 2 years deal ? Let the youngers develop and help mentor Brooks. Webb will be more of a hybrid than a full time safety. Won't hurt too much since the cap is suppose to increase A LOT in the next few yeards and he'll be gone.

 

Would help the secondary a lot. he's a nice tackler what we didnt have for a long time in the secondary. 

[ALPHA]

54 minutes ago, KBoum said:

Would you guys be interested in Weddle on a 1 or 2 years deal ? Let the youngers develop and help mentor Brooks. Webb will be more of a hybrid than a full time safety. Won't hurt too much since the cap is suppose to increase A LOT in the next few yeards and he'll be gone.

 

Would help the secondary a lot. he's a nice tackler what we didnt have for a long time in the secondary. 

No safety can thrive with bad cornerback play and little pass rush, I don't think it's a need.

[ellicottraven]

Does anyone know the latest on Kelvin Beachum or Eric Weddle? I think Weddle indicated he would make a decision by Monday but what about Beachum? Did his visit with the Jets finish without a contract being offered? What are we planning to do with all the cap space we created? Antsy days ahead till our O-line takes shape as well as our defensive back field.

We've clearly made the determination to go all out on free agency without being held back by the comp formula but to what avail if we don't sign the right people? Signing 35 yr old TEs and 30 something safeties wasn't my idea of loading up in free agency.

[KBoum]

Three teams keeping close tabs on former Pro Bowl safety Eric Weddle - Ravens - Cowboys - Steelers

[Wildabeast88]

Honestly we have to many Safeties now as is plus if we add Weddle how can the young players develop 

FS Webb Lewis Brooks

SS Hill Elam with Brooks being able to play here at SS also

 

[ALPHA]

Hill is a great safety and Lewis has proven that he can ball, but how many receivers do we expect them to cover? Earl Thomas would struggle with no corner help and pass rush.

[Sizzlebshu]

6 hours ago, Wildabeast88 said:

Honestly we have to many Safeties now as is plus if we add Weddle how can the young players develop 

FS Webb Lewis Brooks

SS Hill Elam with Brooks being able to play here at SS also

 

Tell that to KC's dime package which led to an 11 game win stream. Adding Weddle to that rotation gives us a guy who can play center field which idt any of the above can. 

Webb is more in the mold of Jenkins/thurmond and better suited for man to man. 

Lewis is what I said he was before we signed him - average at best, terrible normally, and a dumpster fire at worst. 

Brooks needs to get healthy

Hill is a stud

Elam is a world class bust. 

 

While we could use some corner depth, it isn't impossible to role out a strong dime package using safeties as KC showed with Berry, abdullah, branch etc...

Edited March 12, 2016 by Sizzlebshu

[ravensdan]

On March 9, 2016 at 0:00 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

hasnt there been rumors about SD wanting to trade back? if so, is this finally the year we make a bold move in the draft? jalen ramsey would likely be the target there and i wonder if those rumors hold any water and what the chargers would want in exchange. its very possible they could want ronnie stanley or buckner after tunsil comes off the board and they figure moving back to 6 while getting some picks would be a much better value than ramsey.

If there's a possibility to trade up for Ramsey. I sign off on that move. He will provide the highest impact and be the biggest difference maker of any of these discussed options. 

[Wildabeast88]

1 hour ago, Sizzlebshu said:

Tell that to KC's dime package which led to an 11 game win stream. Adding Weddle to that rotation gives us a guy who can play center field which idt any of the above can. 

Webb is more in the mold of Jenkins/thurmond and better suited for man to man. 

Lewis is what I said he was before we signed him - average at best, terrible normally, and a dumpster fire at worst. 

Brooks needs to get healthy

Hill is a stud

Elam is a world class bust. 

 

While we could use some corner depth, it isn't impossible to role out a strong dime package using safeties as KC showed with Berry, abdullah, branch etc...

I think Webb can excel as a centerfield type of Safety which is what he was in college and if you were going to use a similar package then yes I could see signing Weddle but remember we have no D Pees as our D coordinator so I'm sure he could mess it up maybe Frazier can have more  stroke to run things. Also I think lets see what Elam does this ear before he was hurt last year the coaches were raving about his improvement a total bust might be slightly harsh. He did start for a year and a half before missing last year yes he does need to improve 

[JO_75]

1 hour ago, ravensdan said:

If there's a possibility to trade up for Ramsey. I sign off on that move. He will provide the highest impact and be the biggest difference maker of any of these discussed options. 

If the new rumor is correct, nobody will have a chance at Ramsey.... except for the Titans. Per Walter Football, Jalen Ramsey is now the favorite over Tunsil to go number one overall to the Titans. 

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

I would say that a Safety number one overall is bad but with the new age of the rookie scale it's may just be worth it. Plus if the Titans feel a trade down would see Ramsey taken before they go back on the clock, they will probably stay put if they like him enough. This also shouldn't surprise anyone considering Dick LeBeau is now their Defensive Coordinator, he worked with Polamalu in Pittsburgh and may want another dominant safety to work with and that's what Ramsey provides.

[ravensdan]

1 hour ago, JO_75 said:

If the new rumor is correct, nobody will have a chance at Ramsey.... except for the Titans. Per Walter Football, Jalen Ramsey is now the favorite over Tunsil to go number one overall to the Titans. 

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

I would say that a Safety number one overall is bad but with the new age of the rookie scale it's may just be worth it. Plus if the Titans feel a trade down would see Ramsey taken before they go back on the clock, they will probably stay put if they like him enough. This also shouldn't surprise anyone considering Dick LeBeau is now their Defensive Coordinator, he worked with Polamalu in Pittsburgh and may want another dominant safety to work with and that's what Ramsey provides.

A true difference making safety is the second most difficult position to find right now. There aren't enough for every team. Not close. And if this guy can be a tyran mathieu type of contributor he is well worth that type of pick.  

[RavensFanMania]

24 minutes ago, ravensdan said:

A true difference making safety is the second most difficult position to find right now. There aren't enough for every team. Not close. And if this guy can be a tyran mathieu type of contributor he is well worth that type of pick.  

I'd love Ramsey, but doubt the Titans take him #1 over Tunsil.  That being said, if Ramsey goes number 1 Tunsil will definitely go to San Diego, which could push either Bosa or Buckner  to us at 6. 

[ellicottraven]

I don't know who's going to be more useful as a contributor to the Ravens? Eric Weddle or Mike Wallace? I would love to find out though if they are signed.

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

I don't know who's going to be more useful as a contributor to the Ravens? Eric Weddle or Mike Wallace? I would love to find out though if they are signed.

Weddle. That's a serious power move. But honestly I think we have no shot at either, aren't they looking for the most money possible?

[BmoreBird22]

On 2/25/2016 at 6:26 PM, allblackraven said:

Does anybody know what's the long term prognosis on nerve damage in joints? Is it something that can be healed or it's a deal breaker for pro athletes?

Weddle almost assuredly wants to play for a playoff contender after making the playoffs like three times in his career. He's probably had at least two decent, if not big, paydays. 

Wallace, on the other hand, I see chasing money and humbly not getting it.

[allblackraven]

11 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Weddle almost assuredly wants to play for a playoff contender after making the playoffs like three times in his career. He's probably had at least two decent, if not big, paydays. 

Wallace, on the other hand, I see chasing money and humbly not getting it.

Thanks!

 

[BmoreBird22]

5 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Thanks!

I hate this new site because I know for a fact that I did not recently quote that post. I quoted it a few days ago and didn't reply after I saw someone else did. 

This new site has so many glitches and unfavorable blips to it.

My bad.

[PurpleCity5]

It seems so odd for a CB/S to go No.1 Overall, are the Titans really going to do that? I'm going to have to call bluff on that one. I understand BPA and what not but you got one of the best LTs to come out in years sitting there to protect your young QB who has missed 3 or 4 games. It seems odd. 

[Sizzlebshu]

10 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

It seems so odd for a CB/S to go No.1 Overall, are the Titans really going to do that? I'm going to have to call bluff on that one. I understand BPA and what not but you got one of the best LTs to come out in years sitting there to protect your young QB who has missed 3 or 4 games. It seems odd. 

While I agree especially given what Tunsil could provide. The feeling that they will actually do this keeps growing. 

I think Norris summed it up best. The Titans issues are on the interior line and a T doesn't address those. Additionally, given how pass rushers are matchup based now, the LT position, loses value. 

[Jaybirds]

10 minutes ago, Sizzlebshu said:

While I agree especially given what Tunsil could provide. The feeling that they will actually do this keeps growing. 

I think Norris summed it up best. The Titans issues are on the interior line and a T doesn't address those. Additionally, given how pass rushers are matchup based now, the LT position, loses value. 

I can't remember where I heard this argument.  But I did hear a version where Tunsil does help the interior:  Tunsil starts at left tackle.  Their current left tackle (also a high draft pick, right?) moves to right tackle.  The current right tackle replaces one of the guards.  So ti's three spots getting improved at once. 

Only one of those is interior, I'll admit.  But that still seems pretty good. 

[Dewy101]

1 hour ago, Sizzlebshu said:

While I agree especially given what Tunsil could provide. The feeling that they will actually do this keeps growing. 

I think Norris summed it up best. The Titans issues are on the interior line and a T doesn't address those. Additionally, given how pass rushers are matchup based now, the LT position, loses value. 

Thank you. At least someone agrees with me. I'm starting to think RT is more valuable now 

[Dewy101]

1 hour ago, Jaybirds said:

I can't remember where I heard this argument.  But I did hear a version where Tunsil does help the interior:  Tunsil starts at left tackle.  Their current left tackle (also a high draft pick, right?) moves to right tackle.  The current right tackle replaces one of the guards.  So ti's three spots getting improved at once. 

Only one of those is interior, I'll admit.  But that still seems pretty good. 

I think the Murray trade means they draft Tunsil. If they really want  Ramsey they would help their Oline in FA. Andre Smith and Mitchell Schwartz were available but they didn't make a move. Maybe they still try to sign Smith

[RavensFanMania]

15 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Weddle. That's a serious power move. But honestly I think we have no shot at either, aren't they looking for the most money possible?

holy mother ......, I found out via text from a member a minute before I was due on a conference call.  Wooooohoooooo.  What do you think the plan is for Webb???

[ALPHA]

Just now, RavensFanMania said:

holy mother ......, I found out via text from a member a minute before I was due on a conference call.  Wooooohoooooo.  What do you think the plan is for Webb???

Hopefully back to slot, we should be set with Weddle and Hill

[RavensFanMania]

11 minutes ago, Dewy101 said:

Thank you. At least someone agrees with me. I'm starting to think RT is more valuable now 

There are arguments where it is harder to play RT and RG vs. LG & LT.  The reasoning and I can't remember where I read it, but most right handed QB's will genrally step left and the left side of the oline will also shift to the left, leaving the right side on an island.  This and the fact that great pass rushers are coming from both right and left side now.  

In regards to a good left tackle helping out the guard position.  Absolutely, it's a domino effect.  To say that Tunsil won't help out the rest of the oline is absolutely a ridiculous statement. 

[RavensFanMania]

6 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Hopefully back to slot, we should be set with Weddle and Hill

Agree and he could be a backup position at FS as well. 

[Sizzlebshu]

1 hour ago, Jaybirds said:

I can't remember where I heard this argument.  But I did hear a version where Tunsil does help the interior:  Tunsil starts at left tackle.  Their current left tackle (also a high draft pick, right?) moves to right tackle.  The current right tackle replaces one of the guards.  So ti's three spots getting improved at once. 

Only one of those is interior, I'll admit.  But that still seems pretty good. 

Except they already moved that guy to the interior because he was terrible at tackle and moved Byron Bell to RT.