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4 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Spence,  Dodd,  Alexander,  Cravens, . . . I can see the going very well

I agree with these 4 guys. And even though Jack's injury scares me, I would be pretty excited to land him in the second round too.  I try to think...whose name was I most dreading to hear when the Steelers/Bengals were on the clock?

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So much 1st round talent left. Idk if we can even take jack with our second.. he'd definitely be worth it but there's a lot of question marks 

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With Jack falling this far, I think it's safe to say he shouldn't be a 2nd rounder. His knee is obviously in very bad shape if he falls this far. The whole nfl likely isn't wrong in this especially when he admitted himself that it is a verybl legitimate problem. I wouldn't touch him til the 4th and I was quite the Jack fan

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6 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

With Jack falling this far, I think it's safe to say he shouldn't be a 2nd rounder. His knee is obviously in very bad shape if he falls this far. The whole nfl likely isn't wrong in this especially when he admitted himself that it is a verybl legitimate problem. I wouldn't touch him til the 4th and I was quite the Jack fan

I agree we shouldn't even consider Jack until the 4th along with Jalyon smith. 

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What's the chance Noah spence drops to the 3rd round? I want Alexander in the second then trade back into the second to get spence

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12 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

With Jack falling this far, I think it's safe to say he shouldn't be a 2nd rounder. His knee is obviously in very bad shape if he falls this far. The whole nfl likely isn't wrong in this especially when he admitted himself that it is a verybl legitimate problem. I wouldn't touch him til the 4th and I was quite the Jack fan

Not necessarily. Nobody touched him in round1 however teams could just be playing it safe and cautious. Not saying the ravens should take a shot on him. but even with surgery witb his particular  prob he should be ready by regular season. Ravens could be getting the best left tackle in the game and best LB in one draft again. The receivers and safetys being drafted allows the ravens to get a round talent. If Ragland gets in top shape with his power and instincts he could be the best LB in the game as well. My fav players left is Jack,Ragland,Spence,Dodd,Deion Jones,Reshard Robinsin,CRAVENS,DEMARCUS ROBINSON,Reshard Robinsin,Whitehair,Michael Thomas,Ngakoue,Fuller, and a couple running backs for the next couple rounds. In my opinion manynifvthe defensive tackles are overrated limited run stuffers. I would not rule out an oline player round2-3 if a player likeBeavers, Coleman,Whitehair,Ifedi,Spriggs. I like them better than many Dtackles available. 

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30 minutes ago, L.A.Ravens said:

What's the chance Noah spence drops to the 3rd round? I want Alexander in the second then trade back into the second to get spence

I do not want Alexander round2. Reshard Robinson is far better and coukd get him round3. Robinson is the best cornerback

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1 hour ago, SaraB said:

I agree with these 4 guys. And even though Jack's injury scares me, I would be pretty excited to land him in the second round too.  I try to think...whose name was I most dreading to hear when the Steelers/Bengals were on the clock?

If Spence or Dodd  was taken by them I wouldn't have been happy.   I have no doubt we get a starter day 2

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6 hours ago, usmccharles said:

If Spence or Dodd  was taken by them I wouldn't have been happy.   I have no doubt we get a starter day 2

Same I would add Billings and Alexander to our list. Several players we can draft have starter talent it's amazing.

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"Because Jack didn't get picked in the first round, it's safe to say he's not worth a second round pick."

haha. By that logic no one still available is worth a pick next round. Guess we should just trade out.

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3 minutes ago, edthehead said:

I think we end up with JACK

20 years ago what was our first 2 picks,

 

Yes but Ray Lewis didn't have a #2 pencil as a knee.

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Just now, trevorsteadman said:

Yes but Ray Lewis didn't have a #2 pencil as a knee.

he had question marks

by no means am I comparing him to ray

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Just now, edthehead said:

he had question marks

by no means am I comparing him to ray

We all like the talent there Jack has but he could slip walking up the stage to Goodell and be out for his entire career before he holds jersey of the team that selected him.

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1 minute ago, Jaybirds said:

How much better is Jack's knee than Jaylon Smith's? 

Smith is out 2016 but his knee will fully heal.. Jack on the other hand could play 1 year he could play 8 no one knows.

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2 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

How much better is Jack's knee than Jaylon Smith's? 

Jack WILL play again, and likely start this season. It's a matter of longevity for him.

Smith HOPES to play again. He certainly will not play this upcoming season. Nerve damage is very unpredictable. His doctor optimistically stated that there's an 80% chance he someday returns to form. It's way more than a longevity issue; it's an issue of whether or not he'll ever see the field at all in the NFL.

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Just now, trevorsteadman said:

We all like the talent there Jack has but he could slip walking up the stage to Goodell and be out for his entire career before he holds jersey of the team that selected him.

oh, 

well that is a game changer,

let get spence and pray jaylon falls to us

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On a four-year rookie contract, it's not clear to me that Jack plays more games than Smith.  Meanwhile, Cravens is still on the board with less talent but both knees.   I think Jack falls further. 

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If they take Jack and the experiment fails would be disastrous for this draft. No way. I heard the words called Impact players. Instant coffee?  Remember. I wish I was buying the groceries. 

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58 minutes ago, bravensfan52 said:

Now we fixes our online time to fix the whole D

 

Pass Rusher 2

CB 3

MLB 4

CB 4

DE 4

 

This seems realistic.  One of those CBs may turn into a WR.  But yeah, those positions should provide talent at those spots. 

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1 hour ago, bravensfan52 said:

Now we fixes our online time to fix the whole D

 

Pass Rusher 2

CB 3

MLB 4

CB 4

DE 4

 

That's realistic. I'd prefer us go this route:

 

Pass Rusher 2

CB 2 (Trade)

MLB 3

WR 4

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1 minute ago, Alabama Raven said:

That's realistic. I'd prefer us go this route:

 

Pass Rusher 2

CB 2 (Trade)

MLB 3

WR 4

You're not worried about the depth on our defensive line?  There's even a small chance we could still get a DE late that can pass rush, like Tapper. 

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Tunsil and his reps tried to pass off that video as "years ago" puhleez... you can hear in the audio an analyst talking on TV about Myles Jacks' knee issues and how he may need microfacture surgery - a very recent revelation.

He probably did it within the past week.

Very sketchy, we'll see what else gets uncovered.

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8 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

You're not worried about the depth on our defensive line?  There's even a small chance we could still get a DE late that can pass rush, like Tapper. 

I'm worried about numerous problems with our roster presently. We lack a Pass Rush and CB are problems 1A & 1B. With Darryl Smith's release, we're projecting starting a career backup next to Mosley, which won't do him any favors either. To me, we don't have an option but to address those three positions with our next pick. I don't believe Tapper, or anyone of that caliber, is available in the 4th. Dodd, Ogbah, Calhoun are going to come off the board in the 2nd IMO, and Tapper in the 3rd. That leaves us with mediocre options at DE. Meanwhile guys like Charone Peake, Aaron Burbridge, Demarcus Robinson should all be available in the 4th. 

The alternative is that we don't address ILB in the draft, which would be a huge mistake IMO. We know we're going to address Pass Rush & CB, but I don't think our ILB problems can be overstated.

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2 minutes ago, berad said:

Tunsil and his reps tried to pass off that video as "years ago" puhleez... you can hear in the audio an analyst talking on TV about Myles Jacks' knee issues and how he may need microfacture surgery - a very recent revelation.

He probably did it within the past week.

Very sketchy, we'll see what else gets uncovered.

http://deadspin.com/now-laremy-tunsils-instagram-has-posted-alleged-convers-1773740002

Someone hacked his Instagram account too. Posted a few text conversations with his Ole Miss coaches about getting them to pay his rent.

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