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4 hours ago, DomMcRaven said:

Smokescreen in my opinion. 

I don't think its a smokescreen, the Chargers can use extra picks. 

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With all the help the Chargers need, they would love to have more picks. It's just a matter of finding a team that wants to trade up for Bosa, Buckner, or Ramsey. The Dolphins come to mind as someone that'd consider it. Or the Giants.

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11 hours ago, Sizzlebshu said:

For what? 

I just have the feeling they'll stay at 3. I have no inside knowledge whatsoever. It's just a feeling.

11 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't think its a smokescreen, the Chargers can use extra picks. 

They can, but they could use that impact player we all want as well. 

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1 minute ago, DomMcRaven said:

I just have the feeling they'll stay at 3. I have no inside knowledge whatsoever. It's just a feeling.

They can, but they could use that impact player we all want as well. 

They may think they can have both.  I mentioned a few days ago there was a rumor that San Diego was scouting Nkemdiche pretty hard.  If they really like him, or perhaps Lawson, they can trade down and still get their guy. 

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What would it cost us to trade up to #3 from our 6 spot? How much extra? Wonder if Ramsey or anyone else is worth the trade up. 

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1 hour ago, edthehead said:

anybody hearing anything on KO, and any other possible cuts

Raiders are going after him hard. I expect him to land there. The really want to get rid of Khalif Barnes. 

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On February 28, 2016 at 4:53 PM, allblackraven said:

I heard that Noah spence pro day was noticeably thin in terms of positional coaches and head coaches. Four teams were absent thoroughly.

any word on whether the Ravens were there or met with this guy?

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1 minute ago, Edgar said:

I heard that Noah spence pro day was noticeably thin in terms of positional coaches and head coaches. Four teams were absent thoroughly.

any word on whether the Ravens were there or met with this guy?

I haven't seen any details from pro day other than what you said. Ravens talked to him during Senior Bowl and combine, I'd say that should be enough to give them a fair idea.

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hasnt there been rumors about SD wanting to trade back? if so, is this finally the year we make a bold move in the draft? jalen ramsey would likely be the target there and i wonder if those rumors hold any water and what the chargers would want in exchange. its very possible they could want ronnie stanley or buckner after tunsil comes off the board and they figure moving back to 6 while getting some picks would be a much better value than ramsey.

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Just now, KBoum said:

Ravens showing interested in Mike Wallace.... come on Ozzie

If he wasn't such a knucklehead and 30, I could see this. Maybe on a cheap deal, but i just don't thin Wallace helps us any in terms of negotiation. 

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10 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

 Ramsisthere been rumores about SD wantetg to trade  boulack? if so, is  this finally the year we make a bold move in the draft? jalen ramsey would likely be the target there and i wonder if those rumors hold any water and what the chargers would want in exchange. its very possible they could want ronnie stanley or buckner after tunsil comes off the board and they figure moving back to 6 while getting some picks would be a much better value than ramsey.

If bosa and goff/wentz Happen to go 1 and 2 (or even ramsey, Goff) trading up for tunsil Would be awesome.esp. since KO Is now all but gone. I dont see it happening but it Would be cool. Theres Just too much value in The 2nd round..but if we could get away with a future First and a third i would be all for it. Esp considering we wont Be picking this high again next year. (Hopefully) 

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2 minutes ago, January J said:

If bosa and goff/wentz Happen to go 1 and 2 (or even ramsey, Goff) trading up for tunsil Would be awesome.esp. since KO Is now all but gone. I dont see it happening but it Would be cool. Theres Just too much value in The 2nd round..but if we could get away with a future First and a third i would be all for it. Esp considering we wont Be picking this high again next year. (Hopefully) 

SD wont trade back if tunsil is there at 3 though

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San Diego rumors are still about two weeks old.  They're listening to offers for the #3 pick, but not actively looking for buyers.  They and Dallas were both kicking the tires on Nkemiche (per Walter).  No additional smoke to that fire either.  Best guess?  Someone was trying to trade up to #3 or #4, but nothing came from it.  Absolutely wild and crazy speculation?  The Giants wanted to try for Bosa/Buckner.  Maybe they like Lawson just as much at #10 though.  

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14 minutes ago, January J said:

If bosa and goff/wentz Happen to go 1 and 2 (or even ramsey, Goff) trading up for tunsil Would be awesome.esp. since KO Is now all but gone. I dont see it happening but it Would be cool. Theres Just too much value in The 2nd round..but if we could get away with a future First and a third i would be all for it. Esp considering we wont Be picking this high again next year. (Hopefully) 

No way the Chargers would trade back if Tunsil is there. But I think the Cowboys are potential trade candidates to jump the Jags. If Elliot or a QB is their guy than there's 100% at least one, more than likely both and on top of that there's still going to be a top talent available like Bosa, Jack or Buckner

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39 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:
26 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

 SD  thiwont tradeanwayunsil is there at 3 though  

I actually think They Would consider it. If They can get a nice little haul and still come Away with stanley @ 6 i Could see it. Depends on how much they like stanley And if they think its A major dropoff in talent. I dont Think theres As much seperatin the two As many seem to think. 

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We also could have to the same opinion on Stanley. If there isn't a huge dropoff than is it worth giving up what we would have to in order to get Tunisl when we could just grab Stanley and keep what we would be willing to give up

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Why do people dislike Stanley? Is it because he's an OL and they're not sexy picks? Eric Fisher was viewed as a can't miss prospect but he's been an utter failure. I doubt this will be the case for Tunsil, but if you use the excuse that LT just aren't safe picks anymore (a fair argument, btw) then how is Tunsil safe? Many people felt this same way about Matthews and Robinson and while one has slowly come along, it's not like Robinson has lived up to his expectations and he was viewed as the better pick. 

I just fail to see why people use that LT bust excuse on Stanley but don't on Tunsil. If we're being objective then the excuse goes both ways and both are as risky. Tunsil is a better run blocker by a bit but Stanley is probably just as good a pass pro. 

Seems like an unfair double standard.

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15 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Why do people dislike Stanley? Is it because he's an OL and they're not sexy picks? Eric Fisher was viewed as a can't miss prospect but he's been an utter failure. I doubt this will be the case for Tunsil, but if you use the excuse that LT just aren't safe picks anymore (a fair argument, btw) then how is Tunsil safe? Many people felt this same way about Matthews and Robinson and while one has slowly come along, it's not like Robinson has lived up to his expectations and he was viewed as the better pick. 

I just fail to see why people use that LT bust excuse on Stanley but don't on Tunsil. If we're being objective then the excuse goes both ways and both are as risky. Tunsil is a better run blocker by a bit but Stanley is probably just as good a pass pro. 

Seems like an unfair double standard.

A lot has to do with the rumors regarding is lack of love for the game. That's an issue because I'd rather have someone less talented with the desire to be the best than have a guy that's content

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3 minutes ago, ngatainmyhouse said:

A lot has to do with the rumors regarding is lack of love for the game. That's an issue because I'd rather have someone less talented with the desire to be the best than have a guy that's content

I'm just not sure how true that stuff is about him not loving football. Another member and I discussed this and he said it wouldn't make sense for a guy to be considered a potential top 5 player and not love football. I happen to agree. I wonder if this is some deception put out by some other team so he'll drop. 

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Ravens ? unless they trade back in the end of 1st or maybe cross their finger for early 2nd.

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Consider this: Osweiler signs with Houston. Denver trades for Keapernik creating an absolute must draft need for SF to go QB. This creates an opportunity to trade back for the Ravens with a QB needy team like the Rams imo. What do you guys think?

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3 hours ago, KBoum said:

Ravens ? unless they trade back in the end of 1st or maybe cross their finger for early 2nd.

Probably just due diligence. If (say) the Rams offer something obscene like Aaron Donald and a 2017 1st there's no way we're turning them down - at which point we still need to be aware of what's going on with the prospects who'd be in that range so we can make the best decision.

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3 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Consider this: Osweiler signs with Houston. Denver trades for Keapernik creating an absolute must draft need for SF to go QB. This creates an opportunity to trade back for the Ravens with a QB needy team like the Rams imo. What do you guys think?

To be fair, Houston paying Osweiler 18 mil a yr is a pretty big indictment on all the QBs in this class. I think they believe that Wentz is the only viable one (they may have been willing to trade 3 picks to move up)

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Consider this: Osweiler signs with Houston. Denver trades for Keapernik creating an absolute must draft need for SF to go QB. This creates an opportunity to trade back for the Ravens with a QB needy team like the Rams imo. What do you guys think?

this is true , but the opposite of the statement is ,,

what if SF decide to move up in front of CLEV, then we are screwed,

kinda works both ways, but I do see them staying puy

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