The Rumor Mill

[SammyG]

Saw two mocks yesterday that didn't have Lawson or Dodd in the first round. Seems awfully unlikely in my opinion.

[RaineV1]

2 minutes ago, SammyG said:

Saw two mocks yesterday that didn't have Lawson or Dodd in the first round. Seems awfully unlikely in my opinion.

I seriously doubt Lawson falls any farther than the Raiders, as he'd help them against the pass and run as an edge rusher. Dodd can fall to the 2nd since he doesn't have that much experience, and had the benefit of being on the other side of Lawson.

[Maryland]

10 hours ago, JO_75 said:

So apparently it's a coin flip between Tunsil & Bosa when it comes to the Titans if they can't trade down. They did send a "horde of decision makers" to Florida State's Pro Day to watch Ramsey but it does seem Tunsil is still the favorite to be the number one pick despite everything else we have heard.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/333632/report-coin-flip-between-bosa-and-tunsil?ls=roto:CLG:topheadlines

This is what I've thought all along. The positional value of the LT position outweighs the value of the safety position, talent being equal. 

Plus Tunsil just seems like a safer pick. Ramsey gets a ton of hype, but he could still bust if the team who drafts him wants a CB. Plus the Titans don't even know who their coach will be in 2017; they could bring in a DC who can't use Ramsey to his potential. 

[RavensDieHard21]

On March 29, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Davesta said:

After resigning Bradford? I would think they reach for Elliot first

Bradford is the short-term solution and they needed to keep one vet. They could go after Elliot as they now need another reliable back that is talented, but my friend is a Philly fanatic and reads articles all day and told me that Philly wants Goff bad and wants to get ahead of SF.

[RavensDieHard21]

On March 30, 2016 at 0:45 AM, Maryland said:

This is what I've thought all along. The positional value of the LT position outweighs the value of the safety position, talent being equal. 

Plus Tunsil just seems like a safer pick. Ramsey gets a ton of hype, but he could still bust if the team who drafts him wants a CB. Plus the Titans don't even know who their coach will be in 2017; they could bring in a DC who can't use Ramsey to his potential. 

Did you watch his pro day? One of his biggest knocks have been that his hips are to stiff to hang with top WRs or quick ones, but after watching today, I am sold 100% he could excel at either position. Patrick Peterson is the perfect example as it took him two years to really develop and now he is a top 5 corner. Ramsey is fast, explosive, tough, has instincts, fluid hips from what I seen in the drills, and has range that allows him to make plays in zone or to get instant pressure on QBs when blitzing. I see him as being a high power sports car, which the performance will all depend on the driver, hence our coaches, and where they try to utilize him. But if he pans out at CB, then him and Jimmy could be a very scary duo for many years. 

[Maryland]

Doesn't it seem like the Ravens organization kind of has a friendship (for lack of a better word) with the Eagles? They don't have any trade-dealings since 2011 (Jah Reid and Anthony Allen), but it seems like they are on good terms because of Harbs. Plus it seems like the Eagles are often active in trading with teams on draft day, perhaps more than most teams.

I guess what I am wondering is if this affinity (as I perceive it) between the 2 franchises makes a trade from 6 to 8 more conducive to happening if Goff is on the board. Like, maybe they would opt for a trade with the Eagles if there is a comparatively equal offer from someone else. Idk, just off-season spit-balling here I guess lol.

Goff would be a good QB for a dink-and-dunk WCO like the Chiefs Eagles because he is accurate, but doesn't have the strongest arm. 

[RaineV1]

I think the Ravens and Eagles working together before had a lot to do with Andy and Harbaugh being old friends.

[Maryland]

21 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I think the Ravens and Eagles working together before had a lot to do with Andy and Harbaugh being old friends.

That's probably true. Although they did just hold a joint practice last year, and that was under Chip as coach/GM. But that's much more a coaching decision than a FO move. 

Nevertheless, I just saw Turron Davenport report that the Eagles are very interested in Goff. Could be smoke, but it would make sense to me.

 

//other news: Ravens holding private workouts with LSU LB Deion Jones and Temple CB Tavon Young

Edited March 31, 2016 by Maryland

[JoeyFlex5]

I like deion Jones in the 3rd or 4th, i like brothers more because he may be the smartest and most instinctive LB in the draft and even though he isn'T a supreme athlete he is still excellent in coverage and he has the bulk to hold up against the run for us as well. Jones is more the high ceiling boom or bust pick because he is a great athlete who could be really special but if he was as smart and instinctive as brothers then he wouldmt be a 3rd rounder, I like my linebackers smart.

[BmoreBird22]

On 3/28/2016 at 3:58 PM, SammyG said:

Bad news in my opinion, Cincy is now moving on from Corey Coleman or Josh Doctson as their first round selection, and are now zeroing in on my favorite Sterling Shepard. I told you all he was first round talent and would be a steal in the second. He'll wreak havoc from the slot if Aj Green is on the outside. 

Matt Miller actually said they have Mike Thomas at the top of their board, so I'd need to see a link for this.

[Winchester]

4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I like deion Jones in the 3rd or 4th, i like brothers more because he may be the smartest and most instinctive LB in the draft and even though he isn'T a supreme athlete he is still excellent in coverage and he has the bulk to hold up against the run for us as well. Jones is more the high ceiling boom or bust pick because he is a great athlete who could be really special but if he was as smart and instinctive as brothers then he wouldmt be a 3rd rounder, I like my linebackers smart.

I really like Deion Jones!! He only played one season cuz kwon Alexander was really good and I wanted the ravens to get him!! Jones is better and his instincts really arrived later in season and looked very instinctful at senior bowl. And his instincts will continue to get better in the nfl. He is 223 lbs but rocked up with muscle and very lean. He has explosive torque and power in his legs and hips.  He is flexible and fast. At senior bowl he showed instincts and got through the trash very well. He is so lean he could gain 12lbs of fat  and keep his abs showing. I called it with Navarro Bowman and T Smith would be as good as Mosley or close. and I'm saying Jones will be a monster in the nfl!! Only prob is because of the success of T Smith and Alexander he will not be a mid round steal. Brothers is solid but in my opinion Jones is unique

[JO_75]

Per Adam Schefter, the Eagles took both Wentz and Goff to dinner the last two nights.

Interesting to say the least. Though I can't see how they trade up with the Titans or Browns giving the fact they don't have a second round pick. Unless the Eagles are going give away the farm for either one.

[Davesta]

12 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Bradford is the short-term solution and they needed to keep one vet. They could go after Elliot as they now need another reliable back that is talented, but my friend is a Philly fanatic and reads articles all day and told me that Philly wants Goff bad and wants to get ahead of SF.

Interesting. I wonder what the value is for jumping up from 8 to 6 would be?

[ludy51]

1 minute ago, JO_75 said:

Per Adam Schefter, the Eagles took both Wentz and Goff to dinner the last two nights.

Interesting to say the least. Though I can't see how they trade up with the Titans or Browns giving the fact they don't have a second round pick. Unless the Eagles are going give away the farm for either one.

Double date?

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, Davesta said:

Interesting. I wonder what the value is for jumping up from 8 to 6 would be?

I think we could get their 2nd for that

[mc_red23]

27 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I think we could get their 2nd for that

They don't have one this year. They traded it for Bradford.

[Kinda_Dante]

I saw an article that discussed the possibility of trading back just one spot with the 49ers, using the threat of trading with the Rams and taking another QB off the board. Maybe the Ravens can also play the Eagles against the 49ers and accumulate maybe a 3rd or 4th to trade back one spot and still get their guy.

[52520Andrew]

1 hour ago, mc_red23 said:

They don't have one this year. They traded it for Bradford.

You think maybe we could ask for their second rounder next year?

[ludy51]

Mortiz Boehringers crushed his pro day

German receiver Moritz Wilhelm Boehringer put up Olympian-type of numbers. He measured 6044, 227 pounds, posted a vertical jump of 39 inches, a broad jump of 10-11, timed anywhere from 4.38 to 4.45 in the 40 while also running 4.09 in the short shuttle and 6.64 in the 3-cone. Wow!! I'm told he also looked good catching the ball.

[Edgar]

38 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

You think maybe we could ask for their second rounder next year?

At the very Very least

 

[RaineV1]

I think we could get the Eagles 3rd this year and their 2nd next year. That's not too high for a team thinking they're getting a franchise QB.

[KBoum]

If Wentz is off the board I wouldnt pay higher than that for Goff. I'm not a big fan. 

[ArsenalRaven666]

All the teams below us have a reason to want to trade up to jump a rival for a player of a certain position.

QB) 49ers Eagles and Rams RB) Eagles, Giants and Dolphins OT) 49ers, Eagles, Giants, Buccs, Bears, Dolphins and Raiders etc

 

I would only trade back if Bosa Jack Ramsey and Tunsil were gone.  I wouldn't want to drop back any further then 15th as I believe the advantage gained in adding picks is diminished by the drop off in players talent.

 

Trade with 49ers to no7 where we could swap our 3rd rounders and gain either their 4th & 6th or both 5th & 6ths.

Trade with the Eagles to no8 to gain their 4th & 6th.

 

[KBoum]

I could agree a team would trade up for a QB or Elliot But OT ? I think Stanley is falling and Conklin will go after the 10th pick.

For the Ravens perspective, if one of these 5 is still on board (in that order), I wouldnt trade down :

1- Tunsil

2- Ramsey

3- Jack

4- Bosa

5- Buckner.

 

Any of these 5 are great players. Buckner needs more coaching but he's got the tools. His % of run stop playing backside of the run is very good. He follows the play well and plays the cutback very good. I don't see him getting 8+ sacks in his rookie season because I think he would alternate with a guy like Guy (yup). Still has ton of upside and our D-Line coach is one of the best in the business. Getting one of Bosa/Buckner at 6 and Spence/Alexander/WJ3/ early 2nd. if the right guy isnt available in the early 2nd, trade back for Fackrell/Fuller/Cravens

 

[ArsenalRaven666]

Kboum I am not as sold on Buckner as some are.

I have several friends who are fans of the Giants and Eagles, both teams really want Elliott.

OT is a premium position and there are plently of teams with a need for one behind us.  I could easily have use CB instead as im sure there would be demand for VH3 around that point ...

[mc_red23]

2 hours ago, 52520Andrew said:

You think maybe we could ask for their second rounder next year?

No doubt but it'd take more than just their second next year then surely? I'm not sure if they go for that. I'm not fully clued up on how much certain draft picks are worth in trades tbh. 

[Edgar]

Darian Thompson ran a 4.53 and 4.55 at pro day.

[Somerset Ravens]

4 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I think we could get their 2nd for that

A realistic value for moving up from 8 to 6 would be the Eagle's 3rd round pick this year.

[52520Andrew]

46 minutes ago, mc_red23 said:

No doubt but it'd take more than just their second next year then surely? I'm not sure if they go for that. I'm not fully clued up on how much certain draft picks are worth in trades tbh. 

If it is the Eagles then I think it would be a Fairley fair price to move up 2 spots. And then all we do is hope San Francisco doesn't take our guy out of spite and we could very easily end up with a second rounder in hopefully a better draft while still getting our guy. Obviously depends who is on the board but in the right situation I would do it. Maybe try to get a pick this year out of them as well but I don't think the Eagles are desperate enough at QB to give up the farm. 

[ArsenalRaven666]

12 minutes ago, Somerset Ravens said:

A realistic value for moving up from 8 to 6 would be the Eagle's 3rd round pick this year.

The point cost of moving from 8 to 6 is 200pts by chart, the two eagle 3rd rounders are worth 195 and 205pts each making it realistic.

I personally think we could get more then that given they are jumping the 49ers for a QB, a bidding war would be nice