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[GrimCoconut]

8 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

2nd seems early enough, plus they pick top level talent at other position. Obviously, if they really like QB other than Goff/Wentz. They might even get their guy in 3rd, if it is Cook or someone else.

Not sure it matters, though. It all depends but I can see them still take Wentz even with RG3. It's not like he's a franchise QB. He burned out in WAS and while you can say that was WAS, I don't think it's such an easy write-off. I'm not saying the Browns will take a QB, but I don't think you can easily write-off the position just because they sign RG3. 

[Edgar]

The Browns are not crazy enough to think Bob Griffin is anywhere close to being the answer, Though they would probably have their choice of QB in next years draft if they did.

[Clmraven]

13 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

While we're talking about past drafts.. Does anyone think maybe we could have been better off if we took HHCD? Maybe we could have even beaten the pats in the playoffs? And maybe we could be looking at ragland this year as a trade back option instead and our secondary would not have turned into such a disaster? I love Mosley but I can't help but think what if...

I didn't watch too many packers games but I thought HHCD was pretty bad in coverage this year?

[JoeyFlex5]

26 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I have certainly thought this. I love Mosley but I think Clinton-Dix was perhaps a bigger need. I have to say I was wrong on Clinton-Dix. I didn't like him that much in college and thought he was good but a bit overhyped, but he's blown my opinion really out of the water and he's been a great player. 

Just spoke my mind for me. I thought the exact same but I was still mad we passed him up for a lb. And I still think he could have changed the trajectory of the franchise

[JoeyFlex5]

17 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

I didn't watch too many packers games but I thought HHCD was pretty bad in coverage this year?

I didn't either but if he was bad I think it could be attributed to his defenae, for us our safeties are largely the reason our defense was so bad. Different situations. At worst he's a dependable rangy and smart safety who doesnt bail on assignments and he holds up well in run support and blitzing. 

[RavensFanMania]

4 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I didn't either but if he was bad I think it could be attributed to his defenae, for us our safeties are largely the reason our defense was so bad. Different situations. At worst he's a dependable rangy and smart safety who doesnt bail on assignments and he holds up well in run support and blitzing. 

yeah, he had a down year in coverage but was still top 10 overall because his run support was very good. 

[allblackraven]

33 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Not sure it matters, though. It all depends but I can see them still take Wentz even with RG3. It's not like he's a franchise QB. He burned out in WAS and while you can say that was WAS, I don't think it's such an easy write-off. I'm not saying the Browns will take a QB, but I don't think you can easily write-off the position just because they sign RG3. 

No, not a write-off, just maybe gives them some room and doesn't force their hand in the first round. Jackson will definitely take the guy he likes the most.

[GrimCoconut]

53 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Just spoke my mind for me. I thought the exact same but I was still mad we passed him up for a lb. And I still think he could have changed the trajectory of the franchise

I'm not saying you're wrong. I've thought the same thing, unless you're just adding onto my statement. Lol, sorry. Been working on a college assignment all day. Kinda burned out and needed a break. Maybe. I still like Mosley a lot. I preferred Mosley to HaHa then, but I am not sure in hindsight. 

1 hour ago, Clmraven said:

I didn't watch too many packers games but I thought HHCD was pretty bad in coverage this year?

I'm not sure. I didn't watch much GB at all or NFL in general as I was swamped with school this year. 

43 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

No, not a write-off, just maybe gives them some room and doesn't force their hand in the first round. Jackson will definitely take the guy he likes the most.

Yeah, I agree with that. I'm not sure how much Jackson's involved. I'm sure he gets a say, but I think the GM will do what he wants. I don't know, man. I just don't trust the Browns to do anything right. That franchise is so messed up. You can always say "they'll right the ship eventually" but I am not sure about that. They have a culture of losing. Maybe Jackson fixes it, but we'll see. I think I heard Moses was in Cleveland this year and led the second great exodus, this time from Cleveland, taking good players to other teams. Sadly, he left some behind. 

[allblackraven]

8 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Yeah, I agree with that. I'm not sure how much Jackson's involved. I'm sure he gets a say, but I think the GM will do what he wants. I don't know, man. I just don't trust the Browns to do anything right. That franchise is so messed up. You can always say "they'll right the ship eventually" but I am not sure about that. They have a culture of losing. Maybe Jackson fixes it, but we'll see. I think I heard Moses was in Cleveland this year and led the second great exodus, this time from Cleveland, taking good players to other teams. Sadly, he left some behind. 

Moses appearance in FA is a sign they at least want to try something different. We'll see.

[Ravens4Real]

There's no way the Browns take a QB at 2 if they sign RG3. I know many of you have a hope and prayer still that they will but they won't.

Edited March 22, 2016 by Ravens4Real

[ravensdan]

2 hours ago, Ravens4Real said:

There's no way the Browns take a QB at 2 if they sign RG3. I know many of you have a hope and prayer still that they will but they won't.

Well if I was the Browns I woukdnt take a QB RG or no rd 1. Because there's a very good chance one guy will still be there top of rd 2. With the way the dominoes have fallen worst case they have to move in front of Denver. Hard to say what they are actually thinking though. And if the coach is pushing hard for one of these guys they could easily still do it. Regardless I don't see why RG shoukd swing the pick one way or another. He's just a back up. 

[52520Andrew]

If we are talking hindsight picks, Byron Jones was a guy I was hoping we would take this past year. Didn't do too bad. Was also a fairly large fan of HaHa but considering what we know now about Arthur Brown, I am fine with Mosley.

[Maryland]

5 hours ago, Ravens4Real said:

There's no way the Browns take a QB at 2 if they sign RG3. I know many of you have a hope and prayer still that they will but they won't.

Surprised there are still fans out there who think so highly of RG3

I think the Browns lack your confidence, however. 

[Dewy101]

Well the Chargers are willing to trade down makes sense given the amount of needs they have

[thieverycorporation]

46 minutes ago, Maryland said:

Surprised there are still fans out there who think so highly of RG3

I think the Browns lack your confidence, however. 

I gotta agree with you. They can't afford to not explore the position and they have no viable team, Rebuilding with a franchise QB is a no brainer. Core pieces will take much longer then passing on the signal caller of their liking. RG can't currently be thought of as the answer, at least not solely the only option. Multiple plans would be prudent.

[52520Andrew]

@GrimCoconut

Via DJ:

Listenbee ran mid 4.3's while battling sports hernia...that speaks to both his speed and toughness. One of my favorite WRs to study. 3rd rd

[KBoum]

Did you guys watch Wentz Pro day? This kid is something. As much as I'd like the Browns to take him so the Ravens get a top5 talent, I'm scared to play him twice a season. 1 season behind a vet and he'll be great. He's making NFL Money throw today

[thieverycorporation]

2 minutes ago, KBoum said:

Did you guys watch Wentz Pro day? This kid is something. As much as I'd like the Browns to take him so the Ravens get a top5 talent, I'm scared to play him twice a season. 1 season behind a vet and he'll be great. He's making NFL Money throw today

You need a team dude. Which he ain't got lol

Before you hyperbole check the roster they portend to field. (Browns are nothing to fear) Again check the listings.

He locked himself into the top spot.

[KBoum]

4 minutes ago, thieverycorporation said:

You need a team dude. Which he ain't got lol

Before you hyperbole check the roster they portend to field. (Browns are nothing to fear) Again check the listings.

He locked himself into the top spot.

 

Yeah I know but I'm comparing Wentz to Manziel and Weeden and all the QBs they draft. Every other QBs they got I was HAPPY to see them draft those QBs. I knew they weren't that great. But Wentz is the real deal. Like you said its not a good spot for him... they need a good running game and good defense to help him. THats why I'd go with a vet QB to start the season and not rush him in a bad team

[GrimCoconut]

7 hours ago, 52520Andrew said:

@GrimCoconut

Via DJ:

Listenbee ran mid 4.3's while battling sports hernia...that speaks to both his speed and toughness. One of my favorite WRs to study. 3rd rd

Yeah. I like him quite a bit and he's got great hands for a deep threat and he tracks the ball pretty well. I'm surprised he's so underrated. 

Edited March 24, 2016 by GrimCoconut
Stupid auto-correct

[52520Andrew]

2 minutes ago, KBoum said:

 

Yeah I know but I'm comparing Wentz to Manziel and Weeden and all the QBs they draft. Every other QBs they got I was HAPPY to see them draft those QBs. I knew they weren't that great. But Wentz is the real deal. Like you said its not a good spot for him... they need a good running game and good defense to help him. THats why I'd go with a vet QB to start the season and not rush him in a bad team

Yeah I like Wentz quite a bit. I think he is built for our division as well as opposed to Weeden and Manziel. I am hoping just taking Wentz would be too easy for the Browns to do and they go and mess it up by going another direction lol.

[KBoum]

Browns have an agreement with RG3... Don't know what to think of this. I still wouldnt pass on Wentz if I was the Browns. I don't think defense is their biggest need right now. They could be tempted by the Ohio guy Bosa

[Ravens4Real]

26 minutes ago, KBoum said:

Browns have an agreement with RG3... Don't know what to think of this. I still wouldnt pass on Wentz if I was the Browns. I don't think defense is their biggest need right now. They could be tempted by the Ohio guy Bosa

They badly need a S. If Tunsil is number 1, they will have a hard time passing on Ramsey. I think they could get Cook with their second pick. Don't see much difference between him and Wentz/Goff

[OldToby]

Since the Browns just signed RG3, I can't see them taking another QB in the first unless they are fully committed to rebuilding. Let's just hope Cowboys take a QB. Would hate to settle with Stanley. Looks like Hargreaves and Elliot will be BPA. Can't see Buckner, jack, or Bosa dropping to us.

Edited March 24, 2016 by OldToby

[Jaybirds]

1 hour ago, KBoum said:

Browns have an agreement with RG3... Don't know what to think of this. I still wouldnt pass on Wentz if I was the Browns. I don't think defense is their biggest need right now. They could be tempted by the Ohio guy Bosa

The hype for Bosa in Ohio is huge (I'm from there originally).  I think there will be a lot of pressure to make the fan-friendly move.  The radio shows would lead a mutiny if he's there and they skip him. 

[KBoum]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  

Signing RGIII not expected to have any impact on what Cleveland does in draft. A QB still expected to be the pick.

[jazz1988]

 

23 minutes ago, OldToby said:

Since the Browns just signed RG3, I can't see them taking another QB in the first unless they are fully committed to rebuilding. Let's just hope Cowboys take a QB. Would hate to settle with Stanley. Looks like Hargreaves and Elliot will be BPA. Can't see Buckner, jack, or Bosa dropping to us.

 

RG3 shouldn't affect The Browns decision to take a quarterback in the first and honestly it would be really silly of them to by pass a quarterback in the first just  because they signed RG3. I know he has as great upside but he hasn't been good since his rookie season and he has trouble staying healthy as well.

[ellicottraven]

10 minutes ago, KBoum said:

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter  

Signing RGIII not expected to have any impact on what Cleveland does in draft. A QB still expected to be the pick.

I don't agree with Adam Schefter. I think a QB will definitely be taken but not with their #2 pick. I expect the Browns to take Connor Cook or Paxton Lynch (if he drops to 31) with their 2nd round pick.

 

 

Edited March 24, 2016 by ellicottraven

[Jaybirds]

Just now, ellicottraven said:

I don't agree with Adam Schefter. I think a QB will definitely be taken but not with their #2 pick. I expect the Browns to take Connor Cook or Paxton Lynch (if he drops to 31) with their 2nd round pick.

I wonder if he's half right:  it won't change their plans because they were looking in a different direction already. 

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

Yeah. I like him quite a bit and he's got great hands for a deep threat and he talks the ball pretty well. I'm surprised he's so underrated. 

Did you mean tracking the ball?