trade,trade,trade.

[ArsenalRaven666]

40 minutes ago, edthehead said:

The purpose of this mock was to give an idea of what an aggressive draft could possibly be, get people talking

I like JUDGE TREAD, but I like BOYD also, Tread may be gone at 15, ok, then the fans here love noah spence

I like him also, I think he will go in the 20's but my point is this,

this draft needs to be a hit on so many levels and it can be.

many people here may not want a trade back but what separates really good from good,

give me 2 good players as oppose to 1 really good.  

 

I like the idea of trading down with the Rams especially if getting both their 2nd rounders.
Trade our 1st (6) to Rams for their 1st (15), 2nd (43) and 2nd (45).

We could move back using the lowest 2nd to gain a couple of 3rd rounders and/or future picks for next year.
Trade the former Rams 2nd (45) and our 6th (164) to Eagles for their 3rd (77) 3rd (79) and 4th (110).

1st (15) Treadwell WR
2nd (36) Spriggs OT
2nd (43) Fuller CB
3rd (70) B. Miller/Shephard WR
3rd (77) Matakevich ILB
3rd (81) D. Jones OLB
4th (101) Trelola OG
4th (110) Prescott QB*
4th (126) Hargrave DT*
4th comp H. Miller/Murray CB
4th comp Ngakoue OLB
5th comp Zettel DE or Maddy DT

The pick (110) from Eagles I would prefer a future 3rd and 4th in next years draft or use it with the (126) if we needed to move up at any point.
Taking Prescott and Hargrave at those points were simply going bpa and without reaching.

[ArsenalRaven666]

I like the idea of trading down with the Rams especially if getting both their 2nd rounders.
Trade our 1st (6) to Rams for their 1st (15), 2nd (43) and 2nd (45).

1st (15) Treadwell WR
2nd (36) Spriggs OT
2nd (43) Fuller CB
2rd (45) Boyd WR
3rd (77) D. Jones OLB
4th (101) Trelola OG
4th (126) Hargrave DT*
4th comp H. Miller/Murray CB
4th comp Ngakoue OLB
5th comp Zettel DE or Maddy DT
6TH (164) Morrison ILB

[RavensFanMania]

On 2/1/2016 at 3:08 PM, Drew P said:

Well Carl Davis was a third rounder and he rode the pine for several weeks if i recall correctly. Oakman IMO is a better prospect than Davis and a great athlete. I'd be thrilled if he was selected in round 3.

Oakman is a bust in the making.  I wouldn't touch him.   Let someone else pick him and waste their own pick.

[Baltimore RAYvens]

Getting that 1 and both 2s seems a bit unrealistic, even with Kaep wanting out making San Fran almost sure fire to grab a QB. But I'm all for it

[ArsenalRaven666]

17 minutes ago, Baltimore RAYvens said:

Getting that 1 and both 2s seems a bit unrealistic, even with Kaep wanting out making San Fran almost sure fire to grab a QB. But I'm all for it

If Goff is there we might pull it off.  If we dont get both 2nds would expect atleast their 3rd and a future pick.

Would be a case of changing Boyd for Shephard

Edited February 4, 2016 by ArsenalRaven666

[allblackraven]

We should take Goff/Wentz at #6, then trade him to Denver for Chris Harris and their 1st and 2nd next year.

[GrimCoconut]

26 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

We should take Goff/Wentz at #6, then trade him to Denver for Chris Harris and their 1st and 2nd next year.

Wrong thread. Please go here: 

 

[allblackraven]

5 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Wrong thread. Please go here: 

 

Just thought I'd add another realistic scenario

[edthehead]

1 hour ago, Baltimore RAYvens said:

Getting that 1 and both 2s seems a bit unrealistic, even with Kaep wanting out making San Fran almost sure fire to grab a QB. But I'm all for it

but it is not, I am being polite saying both 2nd round picks , realistically we can get alot more.

we are talking QB all they need is to have a good combine, it does not have to be great, also a good pro day.

tannehill average (big contract), houston has no QB , jets has no QB ,philly no comment, wow

how many years have we seen Carson play great even against us only to fold in a big game, again,and again and again

Denver will need a QB possibly, idk anything really about Osweiler.

the point is, if a team teams a QB they will get him,

The Rams need a QB they really have a good team, they need their franchise QB, to go with their new home.

KAP comments maybe just rumors, we are in a good spot.

clev may go Bosa with a vet QB, you all know HUE wants to win now. 

 

[GrimCoconut]

1 minute ago, edthehead said:

but it is not, I am being polite saying both 2nd round picks , realistically we can get alot more.

we are talking QB all they need is to have a good combine, it does not have to be great, also a good pro day.

tannehill average (big contract), houston has no QB , jets has no QB ,philly no comment, wow

how many years have we seen Carson play great even against us only to fold in a big game, again,and again and again

Denver will need a QB possibly, idk anything really about Osweiler.

the point is, if a team teams a QB they will get him,

The Rams need a QB they really have a good team, they need their franchise QB, to go with their new home.

KAP comments maybe just rumors, we are in a good spot.

clev may go Bosa with a vet QB, you all know HUE wants to win now. 

 

Pretty sure Osweiler is a free agent. 

[edthehead]

5 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Pretty sure Osweiler is a free agent. 

he is, that's is why I said denver may need a QB

he maybe average but he may also want the money, what if somebody offers him  more, he is out.

denver need cap space and peyton retirement may be the answer but if Osweiler change teams

then denver is in a bind. 

Edited February 4, 2016 by edthehead

[GrimCoconut]

16 minutes ago, edthehead said:

he is, that's is why I said denver may need a QB

he maybe average but he may also want the money, what if somebody offers him  more, he is out.

denver need cap space and peyton retirement may be the answer but if Osweiler change teams

then denver is in a bind. 

I was adding to your point. No disagreement from me at all, my man. They'll probably re-sign him, though. They're in a predicament atm. 

[ArsenalRaven666]

The draft chart is only used as a lose guide and is variable on the teams wanting to trade ... the Rams currently need a QB badly.

When the Redskins moved from 6 to 2 for RG3 it cost three 1st round picks and a second for a 1000pt gap.  Now I realise the gap between us and Rams is half that at 550pts but we are also moving down a whole lot more then just four places they did.  With the Rams moving to LA they would be picking up a local top 3 QB which will be popular with the fans.  Fisher is on the hotseat for sure

[Jaybirds]

I could see Osweiler getting a better deal with another team.  I'm guessing Denver won't want to give him the money of a starter if Peyton is coming back next year.  Some other team might.  Denver could use the franchise tag on him (makes sense), but they might need it for Von Miller. 

I'm sure Osweiler's agent will be talking to the Rams and Browns, and probably the Eagles as well. 

[Drew P]

5 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

I could see Osweiler getting a better deal with another team.  I'm guessing Denver won't want to give him the money of a starter if Peyton is coming back next year.  Some other team might.  Denver could use the franchise tag on him (makes sense), but they might need it for Von Miller. 

I'm sure Osweiler's agent will be talking to the Rams and Browns, and probably the Eagles as well. 

Excellent point. He has the tools and played behind the right guy.

[edthehead]

11 hours ago, ArsenalRaven666 said:

The draft chart is only used as a lose guide and is variable on the teams wanting to trade ... the Rams currently need a QB badly.

When the Redskins moved from 6 to 2 for RG3 it cost three 1st round picks and a second for a 1000pt gap.  Now I realise the gap between us and Rams is half that at 550pts but we are also moving down a whole lot more then just four places they did.  With the Rams moving to LA they would be picking up a local top 3 QB which will be popular with the fans.  Fisher is on the hotseat for sure

I agree with you, 6 ( as I am walking backwards out the door) lol

[52520Andrew]

I'd love to see an actual GM try to use the trade value chart to try to justify a trade to another team

[Mad Puppy]

you guys might want to see what LA Rams fans are saying about trading for a QB....

http://www.laramsfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3779

Thing is there is no way they give up both 2nd rounders for the #6 pick. Only QB they really want is Goff, and they need to go up further than 6 for him.

Even a specific trade mentioned where the Rams give #15, #45 and Tre Mason......

would you take that?

[Jaybirds]

1 hour ago, Mad Puppy said:

you guys might want to see what LA Rams fans are saying about trading for a QB....

http://www.laramsfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3779

Thing is there is no way they give up both 2nd rounders for the #6 pick. Only QB they really want is Goff, and they need to go up further than 6 for him.

Even a specific trade mentioned where the Rams give #15, #45 and Tre Mason......

would you take that?

Well, the second guy who replied to that thread would give them to us for Wentz.  So I'm hoping he's in their front office. 

Seriously though.  There's a lot of negativity about giving away the future, like an RGIII scenario.  And they say there are other holes to fill.  But I wouldn't describe the tone of that thread as "just Goff and nobody else".  The combine could change perception.   Though they certainly seem to hate their current roster. 


I might take that trade.  I happen to like Mason as much as Allen and more than anyone else.  And I don't think we have Forsett for too many more years.  It'd still give us 2 second round picks (ours and one of theirs) to chase WRs and CBs.  Brian Quick could fill more of a need though. 

 

Edited February 4, 2016 by Jaybirds

[ngatainmyhouse]

1 hour ago, Mad Puppy said:

9 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

Well, the second guy who replied to that thread would give them to us for Wentz.  So I'm hoping he's in their front office. 

Seriously though.  There's a lot of negativity about giving away the future, like an RGIII scenario.  And they say there are other holes to fill.  But I wouldn't describe the tone of that thread as "just Goff and nobody else".  The combine could change perception.   Though they certainly seem to hate their current roster. 


I might take that trade.  I happen to like Mason as much as Allen and more than anyone else.  And I don't think we have Forsett for too many more years.  It'd still give us 2 second round picks (ours and one of theirs) to chase WRs and CBs.  Brian Quick could fill more of a need though. 

 

I think that's too inconsistent of an issue to use that argument. After RG3's first season every single redskins fan would've said it was worth it. If it wasn't for his injury they probably would still say that. Plus there's teams that have given up a lot and it has worked out for them long term. Falcons moved up to the 6th spot to get Julio and he's been a monster for them since 2011

[Jaybirds]

Just now, ngatainmyhouse said:

 

I"m not making that argument.  I'm trying to nutshell-paraphrase the Rams fans in that link that were saying Goff isn't worth that kind of boldness. 

[ArsenalRaven666]

Will see what will happen when we are on at 6. 

If some of the mocks are right and Bosa falls to us all trades are moot.

If Goff falls to us at 6 game on with the Rams, lets fleece them lol.

[January J]

19 hours ago, ArsenalRaven666 said:

Will see isn'tocobt will hagamewhen wjhe are on aw here

Ifrd some o f the moerecks are righ t and Bosa falls to us all trades are moot.

If Goff falls to us at 6 game on with the Rams, lets fleece them lol.

Would you take bosa with an offer on the table of either two 2nds  and a fifth or a 2nd and a First next year? Im  pretty sure ozzie would Consider it and i Dont think bosa is the end all be all answer. He may not be a good fit Here and i think ozzie would rather have 3 2nds this year or two firsts  next year (In a draft With   arguably More talent) and having a much better chance to hit on several Game changers As opposed to one boom or bust prospect that isnt Even necessarily a good fit.

Edited February 5, 2016 by January J

[edthehead]

this is my point all along, 

many people here DO NOT want a trade back,for me I will take it in a heart beat.

1 really good player vs 2 good players , me, I will take 2

but it only works if we stay aggressive with it. move around and work the draft

just my thoughts. 

[ArsenalRaven666]

6 hours ago, January J said:

Would you take bosa with an offer on the table of either two 2nds  and a fifth or a 2nd and a First next year? Im  pretty sure ozzie would Consider it and i Dont think bosa is the end all be all answer. He may not be a good fit Here and i think ozzie would rather have 3 2nds this year or two firsts  next year (In a draft With   arguably More talent) and having a much better chance to hit on several Game changers As opposed to one boom or bust prospect that isnt Even necessarily a good fit.

I personally would like to trade down but I simply do not see our FO passing up the chance to take Bosa.

I would trade down no lower then 15th and only if a second were included (hopefully two from the Rams) with lower and future picks.

[BmoreBird22]

On 2/3/2016 at 4:59 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

i think we would be big on boyd and coleman, boyd for obvious reasons, and some will roll their eyes at coleman, but hear it out... name some traits of the ravens most successful wr's, what kinds of guys has flacco had the most success with... fierce competitors, 5'10" or less, feisty, sharp and shifty wrs with ridiculous ball skills, corey coleman is derrick mason and steve smith incarnate, of course this is assuming he can refine his game and adapt from a spread offense, which i think he can because the boy can stop and go on a dime and has great awareness, he looks like he just gets it. 

 

historically flacco has played very well with the mighty mouse wr's and if coleman is there in the 2nd(unlikely, but a fun thought) then i think he has to be the guy.

Just hate that he cannot go over the middle consistently

[IceUpSon89]

This is my first post. I have read a lot about players we may target and draft day trades we may make. I'm just curious if there are some players in the league currently that you think Baltimore could trade for that would be instant contributors. I'm not saying blow our first round pick. But a trade like the one the jets did last year. Trade a 4th and 5th rounder and get a monster of a reviver like Marshall. Just curious what player you guys think teams could part ways with

[January J]

12 hours ago, IceUpSon89 said:

Th hacet my first post. I have read a   lot about pvouayers we may target and draft dIu ay trades we may make. I'm jusnt curious if there are some players in the league currently that you think Baltimore could trade for that would be instant contributors. I'm not saying blow our first round pick. But a trade like the one the jets did last year. Trade a 4th and 5th rounder and get a monster of a reviver like Marshall. Just curious what player you guys think teams could part ways with

Trades like that are pretty rare, Esp with the ravens. Cap casualties are Obviously much more likely bc we dont Have the cap room to take on some big name players contract. The biggest splash i Could Possssibly see us making Although not likely would be to pick up eric weddle. And in that case theres a possibility webb could be cut,  Unless he takes yet another pay cut.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

On 2/6/2016 at 9:36 PM, IceUpSon89 said:

This is my first post. I have read a lot about players we may target and draft day trades we may make. I'm just curious if there are some players in the league currently that you think Baltimore could trade for that would be instant contributors. I'm not saying blow our first round pick. But a trade like the one the jets did last year. Trade a 4th and 5th rounder and get a monster of a reviver like Marshall. Just curious what player you guys think teams could part ways with

Those trades typically happen because one team is moving on from a player who carries a burdensome contract, or a guy Is a locker room cancer and they just wanna dump him and not get nothing in return. 

 

I don't really see us making such a move. We never have cap space and we highly value draft picks, we don't have the luxury of trading mid round picks for players who will eat up cap space. Even if it didn't go against our ways, I'm not sure I see a player in a situation that fits the Bill, desean Jackson comes to mind but I just think that's a long shot at best. It likely Will be another quiet trading and FA season for us

[IceUpSon89]

Not saying that I want Baltimire to pass on him. If he is there, I hope we take him without a second thought. My question is, what if Ramsey is there and we pass on him? What would another team have to give up to be worth considering? The Raiders just lost Woodson. If Ramsey is there, would anyone be ok with trading back? If so, what would be the minimum price that you think Baltimire would except?