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      Over the years I have really enjoyed everybody's mock. The only reason I am doing a mock 

well I wanted more trades. So critics please be honest . 

     We trade our 1st to LA (crazy saying that) for their 1st and 2 2nd's 

1. Tenn= Tunsil, LT, much needed upgrade 

2.Cleveland =  Bosa, DE, keep their guy in state, i think they trade for a QB and get a QB later, hue wants to win NOW

3.San Diego = Myles Jack LB, this needed a little more thought. LB,WR, Jack was to good to pass up

4.Dallas = A'Shawn Robinson DT,, No way they take a QB this early, maybe 2nd or 3rd even a trade is possible

5.Jacksonville = Jalene Ramsey great fit

6. TRADE TRADE TRADE, RAMS give the RAVENS 1st (15) 2nd (43) 2nd(45)

     Jared Goff QB,  Welcome to LA

7.San Francisco = Paxton Lynch QB

8. Miami = Deforest Buckner

9. Tampa = Vernon Hargreaves , Tamp smiles they covet him

10. Giants = Ezekiel Elliott RB

11. Chicago =  Shaq Lawson DE

12. TRADE , TRADE, TRADE. New Orleans and JETS

     Jets = carson Wentz

13.Philly = Connor cook QB

14. LAS VEGAS RAIDERS ( love that name and it fits them) = Mackensie Alexander

15.THE BALTIMORE RAVENS  PICKS = Laquon Treadwell aka "JUDGE TREAD" an elite WR corp. thank you JOE

16. Detroit =  Robert Nkemdiche DT, Nagta will be no more in motown.

17.Atlanta = Leonard Floyd DE 2 strong mobile QB in the division

18.Indy = Derrick Henry RB 

19.Bills = Reggie Ragland LB and to control REX'S defensive mayhem 

20.New Orleans = Cory coleman WR, much needed help, althoughit could change, brees cap is to high

21.Redskins = Josh Doctson WR,  Desean jackson/Garcon may be gone.

22. TRADE TRADE TRADE Houston to Ravens

     Ravens jump back into the first. they trade rams second pick # 45 our 3rd #70 and 4th #96 = 786

     THE BALTIMORE RAVENS PICK = Noah Spence DE possible a top 10 but had issues. a steal.

Baltimore following picks are;

2nd pick = Kendall Fuller

2nd pick (rams) = Jaylen Smith LB falls due to injury, HE  will have a redshirt year

4th pick = Chris Jones DT  , 

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4th LaRavens Clark , 4th Scooby Wright ILB,  5th Shawn Oakman DE

 again my First mock, I have to admit. I am tired the 4th on down I tried to fill in so be honest (as I know you all will be) and let me know. 

 

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If we came away with treadwell, spence, fuller, and jaylon smith I think I would crap a brick. Just doesn't seem too realistic , but hey I'd be all for it.

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If your outline of events actually take place and we end up with the players you project, Ozzie will be deified as a Saint by the Pope. The miracle? This draft!

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Glad my nickname for Tread has caught on lol.  

Obviously this draft would be great just not very realistic imo

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Spence will be drafted before15 and Jaylon is still a top20 pick or better!! Only Fuller is realistic there. If Spence did lat til 15 and ravens got him there in a trade down, that alone would be brilliance and luck!! Much less who is drafted with the extra picks. No Ronald Stanley top20?? Without his issues Spence would be dueling Tunsil for top overall pick. To trade back to 10 and get him while adding an extra round2 pick would be amazing!!

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ok, had to step away, @usmccharles your name "JUDGE TREAD" will ring out at M&T,

I think it could fall ,noah has a history of drugs, yes he has a year of being clean but he may fall,15 - 20

Jaylen he has an acl & mcl, he will sit almost a year,

 

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12 minutes ago, edthehead said:

ok, had to step away, @usmccharles your name "JUDGE TREAD" will ring out at M&T,

I think it could fall ,noah has a history of drugs, yes he has a year of being clean but he may fall,15 - 20

Jaylen he has an acl & mcl, he will sit almost a year,

 

Doesn't matter..he will still go first round. Gurley had leg issues too..look how that turned out.

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Spence at 21st doesn't seem unrealistic. With a small bit of luck, it's possible. Jalen won't last until 45, however. At this spot, you can take Wright III (who, btw, won't be there in the 4th).

Not sure about the other 4/5th picks.

Clark was awful at the Senior Bowl, Joe Dahl would be better I think. I didn't know Chris Jones, but we have enough DT, I'd prefer an OLB or Cyrus Jones for example. And please, not Oakman, he's just physical attributes and media hype, is lazy and got embarassed at the Senior Bowl.

 

Anyway, having Tread, Spence and Fuller seem realistic and if it happens, only those three make it a killer draft.

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I think Spence and Jaylon's draft stock can fluctuate a lot in the next few months and neither is a lock at where they're projected right now. If Tunsil, Ramsey and Bosa are gone at 6 then this is an ideal situation. I might go with Jaylon at 15 and then trade back up for Spence cause I don't see either of these players making it out of this 1st. I would love

 

15th  - Jaylon Smith

22nd - Noah Spence/Leonard Floyd

2nd - Fuller

2nd (rams) - Sterling Shepard

4th - Paul McRoberts/Rashad Higgins

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I'm not eager to see us do a trade all the way back to 15. I see the result being we take a pass on the likes of Jack, Buckner, Treadwell, Stanley, Hargraves, Lawson and Alexander. The guys that are left just don't leave me with the impression that they are in the same class as the ones we'd lose out on. 

A trade back to an earlier slot would be my preference, should we choose to trade back at all. Problem is, if the trade up motivation is QB, there aren't any teams I see doing that who draft any earlier than 13 (Eagles) or maybe (but doubtfully) NO. 

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31 minutes ago, January J said:

Doesn't matter..he will still go first round. Gurley had leg issues too..look how that turned out.

It does matter because if his injury really will hold him out a year, a team won't draft him round one. Aaron Colvin was considered one of the best corners available in his draft class, but slipped to the fourth because he couldn't play his rookie season.

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NO, NO, NO....Do not trade out of the 6 spot.

Dropping down is Chicken Sh!t, leaves you with the least of your favorite guys. Are you afraid to make the #6 pick?

An impact player will be there at #6, exactly what the Ravens need.

Not to mention there are too many QB's going in your top 15....There will be 2 tops in the top 15 this coming draft.

I have reservations about Spence being the pick with the focus of this Ravens team on character. An Ecstasy abuser is no character guy.

 

Only trades I'm interested in seeing is getting rid of the 7th rounder (wasted pick the past few years. worth trading for a future 6th), and using the 6th rounder to move up to the 5th.

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3 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

 It does matter because if his injury really will hold him out a year, a team won't draft him round one. Aaron Colvin was considered one of the best corners available in his draft class, but slipped to the fourth because he couldn't play his rookie season.

I think he will still go Round 1 regardless. Aaron Colvin Wasnt Of Jaylon Smiths Caliber.

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2 hours ago, January J said:

Doesn't matter..he will still go first round. Gurley had leg issues too..look how that turned out.

Gurly had an ACL in november

Jaylon tore both ACL & MCL, jan 1,

so his injury was worse and with a shorter amount of time for recovery. 

you are about to sign a kid who lied to his father, you will give him money and no more supervision.Let him loose in any city and those demons start creeping into his mind set. I hope he is strong and ready.

that is my thought process, I am sure other teams look at this scenario also. Maybe offset language in contract, now you have a hold out.

I am going "wizard" and predict Noah and Jaylon will late 1st early 2nd

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I would trade down twice if it is there. Try to pick up an extra round2 pick with each trade down. And take chances on players with some drama issues since Harbs is the best at reaching players!! Something like

 

Round 1 trade down twice and if Spence falls draft him!! Otherwise the bpa that falls. Somebody like Lawson,Coleman,Nkemdiche,Smith,Ragland,Jack,Thomas,Floyd,Rankings or Miller then the ravens will have 3 round2 picks for players like Artie Burns,Deion Jones,Washington, Laraven,Sterling Shepherd,Will Fuller,Tyler Boyd Denver Kirkland, Sheldon Day, Austin Johnson,Vonn Bell,Jay Lee. In mid rounds take a shot at players like Demarcus Robinson. And really restock some talent in this draft!!

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We just need elite talent to compete! Our recent drafts have given us great talent, but not blue chip playmakers. Mosley might certainly be and jimmy smith is certainly on the brink, but perriman is a mystery, Elam has been replaced by hill, upshaw was great at what he did, but not a pass rusher. We have a lot of good players, we need an elite CB opposite jimmy to cause turnovers and limit big plays and a nasty pass rusher to take the torch from sizzle. If we add any major players that will help us to sb51 I'm all for it

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3 hours ago, JoeKnows said:

Me if our draft played out like that.

 

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That just killed me coz that's exactly how i felt when i saw that mock! 

 

9 hours ago, January J said:

If we came away with treadwell, spence, fuller, and jaylon smith I think I would crap a brick. Just doesn't seem too realistic , but hey I'd be all for it.

Come on Ozzie make him crap that brick :P

10 hours ago, edthehead said:

      Over the years I have really enjoyed everybody's mock. The only reason I am doing a mock 

well I wanted more trades. So critics please be honest . 

     We trade our 1st to LA (crazy saying that) for their 1st and 2 2nd's 

1. Tenn= Tunsil, LT, much needed upgrade 

2.Cleveland =  Bosa, DE, keep their guy in state, i think they trade for a QB and get a QB later, hue wants to win NOW

3.San Diego = Myles Jack LB, this needed a little more thought. LB,WR, Jack was to good to pass up

4.Dallas = A'Shawn Robinson DT,, No way they take a QB this early, maybe 2nd or 3rd even a trade is possible

5.Jacksonville = Jalene Ramsey great fit

6. TRADE TRADE TRADE, RAMS give the RAVENS 1st (15) 2nd (43) 2nd(45)

     Jared Goff QB,  Welcome to LA

7.San Francisco = Paxton Lynch QB

8. Miami = Deforest Buckner

9. Tampa = Vernon Hargreaves , Tamp smiles they covet him

10. Giants = Ezekiel Elliott RB

11. Chicago =  Shaq Lawson DE

12. TRADE , TRADE, TRADE. New Orleans and JETS

     Jets = carson Wentz

13.Philly = Connor cook QB

14. LAS VEGAS RAIDERS ( love that name and it fits them) = Mackensie Alexander

15.THE BALTIMORE RAVENS  PICKS = Laquon Treadwell aka "JUDGE TREAD" an elite WR corp. thank you JOE

16. Detroit =  Robert Nkemdiche DT, Nagta will be no more in motown.

17.Atlanta = Leonard Floyd DE 2 strong mobile QB in the division

18.Indy = Derrick Henry RB 

19.Bills = Reggie Ragland LB and to control REX'S defensive mayhem 

20.New Orleans = Cory coleman WR, much needed help, althoughit could change, brees cap is to high

21.Redskins = Josh Doctson WR,  Desean jackson/Garcon may be gone.

22. TRADE TRADE TRADE Houston to Ravens

     Ravens jump back into the first. they trade rams second pick # 45 our 3rd #70 and 4th #96 = 786

     THE BALTIMORE RAVENS PICK = Noah Spence DE possible a top 10 but had issues. a steal.

Baltimore following picks are;

2nd pick = Kendall Fuller

2nd pick (rams) = Jaylen Smith LB falls due to injury, HE  will have a redshirt year

4th pick = Chris Jones DT  , 

comps

4th LaRavens Clark , 4th Scooby Wright ILB,  5th Shawn Oakman DE

 again my First mock, I have to admit. I am tired the 4th on down I tried to fill in so be honest (as I know you all will be) and let me know. 

 

 

The Rams would need to feel really desperate to just sqash away 2 2nd round picks like that. According to the draft value chart, one second rounder and a later round pick should do it. Keyword "how desperate are the LA Rams"

 

Moving back into the first round would be a dream come true regardless if we move down or not. Get another day 1 starter because they'll still be there at 22.

 

Las Vegas Raiders? I don't know where you got that but it cracked me up.

 

Lets just hope Ozzie pulls a few more rabbits out of his hat. All I'm asking for is one in free agency, one in the draft, and one (healthy season) rabbit. 

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47 minutes ago, Halshayeji said:

The Rams would need to feel really desperate to just sqash away 2 2nd round picks like that. According to the draft value chart, one second rounder and a later round pick should do it. Keyword "how desperate are the LA Rams"

 

Moving back into the first round would be a dream come true regardless if we move down or not. Get another day 1 starter because they'll still be there at 22.

 

The Rams need to win soon and Fishers job will be on the line imo, I honestly think he is the most over-rated coach.  They don't have a qb on the roster that they can win with. Gurley and their defense have shown how good they are, now a qb and a WR could really change that team, I don't know how much cap space they have though. 

 

I would give anything for us to move back into the first round, even if we don't make a trade.  Say we grab Ramsey at 6 (I prefer Jack) and we come back in the first to grab a pass rusher, I would be thrilled.  If R.Kim falls that might be a possibility, Hell that would be a good thread to start, "Trade back into round one for who?"

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11 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

If your outline of events actually take place and we end up with the players you project, Ozzie will be deified as a Saint by the Pope. The miracle? This draft!

I know I would be putting an Ozzie statue up on my lawn the day after the draft if this happens.

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9 hours ago, January J said:

I think he will still go Round 1 regardless. Aaron Colvin Wasnt Of Jaylon Smiths Caliber.

But if he's going to miss his rookie season, he's going to drop farther than you'd imagine. Think of Marcus Lattimore dropping as far as he did after he was considered a first round pick.

I suppose it's possible he's a first round pick, similar to Cedric Ogbouhi, but the chances are slimmer if he's going to miss his whole rookie year.

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The idea of grabbing the rams 2 2nd round picks has been intriguing me as well.

 

I think we're about 2 picks to low to grab an elite talent, so trading back to grab 3 very good players (assuming a trade up again) could be the way to go.

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2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

The Rams need to win soon and Fishers job will be on the line imo, I honestly think he is the most over-rated coach.  They don't have a qb on the roster that they can win with. Gurley and their defense have shown how good they are, now a qb and a WR could really change that team, I don't know how much cap space they have though. 

 

I would give anything for us to move back into the first round, even if we don't make a trade.  Say we grab Ramsey at 6 (I prefer Jack) and we come back in the first to grab a pass rusher, I would be thrilled.  If R.Kim falls that might be a possibility, Hell that would be a good thread to start, "Trade back into round one for who?"

I sure hope fisher gets desperate enough and maybe perhaps the eagles fear the niners picking up the next QB leading to a bidding war between them. If you know Fisher the way I know him, hes not gonna start a rookie with his job on the line. 

The Rams have tons of cap space. Like 50 mil or something so who knows where they go first round. It all depends on FA where us ravens usually play on the sidelines hoping for the least damages lol

On and that would be one hell of a thread come draft day. If this scenario actually plays out the way we are dreaming it does. I'l be the first to yell "trade back in twice!" give me 3 first rounders and throw away all the remaining picks for all i care :P

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@Halshayeji The Raiders met with the mayor of Las Vegas the past week.  The city is willing to build a 1 billion, 65,000 seat stadium

 

I like this mock, but it's far from realistic.  I agree with the previous poster, I believe it was Winchester, that said Stanley should be long gone. 

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5 hours ago, Winchester said:
2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

But if he's goinggoingjust miss his rmte season, he's going to drfirstther than you' d imagine. Thi nk of Marcus Lattimore dropping  as far as he did after he was considered a first round pick.

I suppose it's possible he's a first round pick, similar to Cedric Ogbouhi, but the chances are slimmer if he's going to miss his whole rookie year.

 

Well some reports are Saying he may even be ready to roll by week 1. I kind of doubt it, may Just be an Attempt to raise his draft stock back up, although im Sure plenty of team doctors will be checking him out thoroughly. Even if he cant Make it back until around midseason i just find it hard to believe a previous top 5 prospect would drop completely out of the First. I think a team that can afford to be Patient would pick him up and i See him going in the late teens to mid 20 range.

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1 hour ago, January J said:

Well some reports are Saying he may even be ready to roll by week 1. I kind of doubt it, may Just be an Attempt to raise his draft stock back up, although im Sure plenty of team doctors will be checking him out thoroughly. Even if he cant Make it back until around midseason i just find it hard to believe a previous top 5 prospect would drop completely out of the First. I think a team that can afford to be Patient would pick him up and i See him going in the late teens to mid 20 range.

And that is very possible. I actually want the Ravens to snag him if he's ready for day one and weighs in around 240, 245 at the combine. However, I'm just pointing out it may be a far drop for him.

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