[News] Eisenberg: Just Don't Look at NFL Free Agent List

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There are big names on it, but the Ravens don't operate that way.

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[The Greek]

too much effort now to check if anyone liked or disliked your posts under this new format. too much back and forth to the forum. not a fan of the new format. they need players like monroe to stay healthy so they do not cut players post june 1st to give us some cap $$ but give us the dreaded dead $$ as well. i would take caution in signing a guy like alshon jeffery because he has missed games the past 2 seasons with injuries and he is a player that will not come cheap. the key is to draft better and for the coaching staff to utilize the talent they have with better schemes. von miller wreaked havoc on brady with his blitzes yet i rarely saw pees utilize any of our ilb's that way and sending a cb or safety on a blitz was rare.

 

 

 

Edited January 30, 2016 by The Greek

[BmoreB]

5 hours ago, The Greek said:

too much effort now to check if anyone liked or disliked your posts under this new format. too much back and forth to the forum. not a fan of the new format. they need players like monroe to stay healthy so they do not cut players post june 1st to give us some cap $$ but give us the dreaded dead $$ as well. i would take caution in signing a guy like alshon jeffery because he has missed games the past 2 seasons with injuries and he is a player that will not come cheap. the key is to draft better and for the coaching staff to utilize the talent they have with better schemes. von miller wreaked havoc on brady with his blitzes yet i rarely saw pees utilize any of our ilb's that way and sending a cb or safety on a blitz was rare.

 

 

 

I agree, the new format sucks... almost as much as Pees' schemes

[BmoreB]

I just received a call from the old format... "do they realize what they've done?"... apparently not

[whobilly]

In another month this format won't be new anymore. Lets concern ourselves with the real stuff. THE RAVENS!

[whobilly]

No more positive or neg votes allowed. Guess everybody gets a participation trophy for their comments.

[stixfix69]

Who we sign, and who we keep will go a long way in who we draft....

[edthehead]

@greek

I agree with everything you said, but why do you think we kept pees.

[The Greek]

14 minutes ago, edthehead said:

@greek

I agree with everything you said, but why do you think we kept pees.

they should have promoted ted monachino to dc or went after someone like jim schwartz. what i like about pees is because of his age he will not get any hc opportunities which allows this defense to have continuity but the problem is he is old school  like greg mattison was and they run a bend but dont break laid back style of defense while we are used to marvin, rex and chucks aggressive bring all hell attacking style of defense which greg and dean do not know how to run because it is too complex for them. maybe frazier gets a chance down the road but that would make for personnel and scheme issues because he runs the tampa 2 defense. i just do not want to see us waste a whole season waiting for harbs too realize that pees is not the right guy so im hoping pees does come up with more aggressive schemes and allows guys like frazier and martindale to help come up with schemes that caters to our personnel. we are not a feared defense any longer and we need to get back to being the bullies on the block. front office needs to bring in some speed on defense and guys that can attack the qb

[OzzieBisciotti]

we just need all kinds of help- period. I don't think the team on the field we have will be able to compete next year in terms of making the playoffs. This year's draft will hopefully be a lot more productive than the five years- since we have the higher pick, we should be able to get some play makers this year- we'll probably be better in 2017. Over the past 5 years, we've lost our identity of having a dominant, aggressive defense, and we've moved away from being a running team last year- probably due to scheme/ talent- things were great when Kubs was running the offense. I wish of the old days where we put more money on defense with stud corners so we could attack more.

[bioLarzen]

Yep, Ozzie seldom if ever makes big splashes in free agency. We know it, we got it. Why does it have to be mentioned in every second article before every single free agency period? It's about the tenth article the past two or three weeks mentioning this... May be hard to believe, but we get it, folks ;)

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Free agents generally tend to be higher quality players that either did not live up to their contracts expectations or are asking for more than they are worth from a team's perspective. The only ones realistically pursuing are the ones let go by team's that are being cheap or players whose club undervalued them. Other than that you will either overpay or not get the anticipated level or production to justify the signing.

[BmoreBird22]

10 hours ago, The Greek said:

von miller wreaked havoc on brady with his blitzes yet i rarely saw pees utilize any of our ilb's that way and sending a cb or safety on a blitz was rare.

The Broncos blitzed the fewest times that they had all season against the Patriots and it was something they knew they could not do (blitz). But hey, the more you know.

[allblackraven]

I don't agree with the title of this article. Looking at the FA list is the only thing we can do every year.

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, The Greek said:

they should have promoted ted monachino to dc or went after someone like jim schwartz. what i like about pees is because of his age he will not get any hc opportunities which allows this defense to have continuity but the problem is he is old school  like greg mattison was and they run a bend but dont break laid back style of defense while we are used to marvin, rex and chucks aggressive bring all hell attacking style of defense which greg and dean do not know how to run because it is too complex for them. maybe frazier gets a chance down the road but that would make for personnel and scheme issues because he runs the tampa 2 defense. i just do not want to see us waste a whole season waiting for harbs too realize that pees is not the right guy so im hoping pees does come up with more aggressive schemes and allows guys like frazier and martindale to help come up with schemes that caters to our personnel. we are not a feared defense any longer and we need to get back to being the bullies on the block. front office needs to bring in some speed on defense and guys that can attack the qb

Several problems with your post.

1. If they sign Jim Schwartz, you guarantee a switch to the 4-3, but they have no depth for the linebackers.
2. If you don't like Pees because he runs a "bend but don't break defense", then why in the world would you want the Tampa 2? That's the exact definition of what the Tampa 2 is. I actually like the idea of the Tampa 2 if the Ravens could get better LB depth because Mosley has the sideline to sideline range needed and Jernigan could be the ideal 3T. 
3. Errr, Rex, Marvin, Pagano did not run complex schemes. There schemes were very straight forward. The issue that most people perceive to be an issue with Pees scheme is that it is too complex and it causes more players to read and react instead of just go full speed ahead. It requires gap discipline and the ability to read the play, not just put your head down and go, like they would have under Rex. 
4. Okay, so the FO commits all their money to the defense and all the draft picks to the defense. They have to cut a few offensive players or let a few walk (Forsett, KO, etc) to accommodate for the defensive signings. Then Joe Flacco is left out to dry and you're upset that the FO didn't commit more to the offense.

[bioLarzen]

I don't agree with the title of this article. Looking at the FA list is the only thing we can do every year.

Priceless :D

[bioLarzen]

13 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Several problems with your post.

1. If they sign Jim Schwartz, you guarantee a switch to the 4-3, but they have no depth for the linebackers.
2. If you don't like Pees because he runs a "bend but don't break defense", then why in the world would you want the Tampa 2? That's the exact definition of what the Tampa 2 is. I actually like the idea of the Tampa 2 if the Ravens could get better LB depth because Mosley has the sideline to sideline range needed and Jernigan could be the ideal 3T. 
3. Errr, Rex, Marvin, Pagano did not run complex schemes. There schemes were very straight forward. The issue that most people perceive to be an issue with Pees scheme is that it is too complex and it causes more players to read and react instead of just go full speed ahead. It requires gap discipline and the ability to read the play, not just put your head down and go, like they would have under Rex. 
4. Okay, so the FO commits all their money to the defense and all the draft picks to the defense. They have to cut a few offensive players or let a few walk (Forsett, KO, etc) to accommodate for the defensive signings. Then Joe Flacco is left out to dry and you're upset that the FO didn't commit more to the offense.

Came from the article all the way over to the forum just to upvote this.

[b93333]

Any chance to of getting the old format back?

[cobrajet]

Yep, Ozzie seldom if ever makes big splashes in free agency. We know it, we got it. Why does it have to be mentioned in every second article before every single free agency period? It's about the tenth article the past two or three weeks mentioning this... May be hard to believe, but we get it, folks ;)

I was kind of thinking the same thing. We all know Ozzie really never jumps in the free agent market when it opens. He usually adds second tier players still looking for a contract or makes a trade with a team who has an up and coming player to replace who we are trading for.

[slowboater]

  5 hours ago, The Greek said:

they should have promoted ted monachino to dc or went after someone like jim schwartz. what i like about pees is because of his age he will not get any hc opportunities which allows this defense to have continuity but the problem is he is old school  like greg mattison was and they run a bend but dont break laid back style of defense while we are used to marvin, rex and chucks aggressive bring all hell attacking style of defense which greg and dean do not know how to run because it is too complex for them. maybe frazier gets a chance down the road but that would make for personnel and scheme issues because he runs the tampa 2 defense. i just do not want to see us waste a whole season waiting for harbs too realize that pees is not the right guy so im hoping pees does come up with more aggressive schemes and allows guys like frazier and martindale to help come up with schemes that caters to our personnel. we are not a feared defense any longer and we need to get back to being the bullies on the block. front office needs to bring in some speed on defense and guys that can attack the qb

Several problems with your post.

1. If they sign Jim Schwartz, you guarantee a switch to the 4-3, but they have no depth for the linebackers.
2. If you don't like Pees because he runs a "bend but don't break defense", then why in the world would you want the Tampa 2? That's the exact definition of what the Tampa 2 is. I actually like the idea of the Tampa 2 if the Ravens could get better LB depth because Mosley has the sideline to sideline range needed and Jernigan could be the ideal 3T. 
3. Errr, Rex, Marvin, Pagano did not run complex schemes. There schemes were very straight forward. The issue that most people perceive to be an issue with Pees scheme is that it is too complex and it causes more players to read and react instead of just go full speed ahead. It requires gap discipline and the ability to read the play, not just put your head down and go, like they would have under Rex. 
4. Okay, so the FO commits all their money to the defense and all the draft picks to the defense. They have to cut a few offensive players or let a few walk (Forsett, KO, etc) to accommodate for the defensive signings. Then Joe Flacco is left out to dry and you're upset that the FO didn't commit more to the offense.

LOL. Some people will just never be happy. Even when this team went to the playoffs however many years in a row, many still complained. Me included. It's the nature of being a fanatic. All most want is to see improvement every year. No?

[slowboater]

6 hours ago, whobilly said:

No more positive or neg votes allowed. Guess everybody gets a participation trophy for their comments.

You get a +1 for being so observant. :-) But click on the time stamp and you will see the + and - symbols

Edited January 30, 2016 by slowboater

[edthehead]

6 hours ago, The Greek said:

they should have promoted ted monachino to dc or went after someone like jim schwartz. what i like about pees is because of his age he will not get any hc opportunities which allows this defense to have continuity but the problem is he is old school  like greg mattison was and they run a bend but dont break laid back style of defense while we are used to marvin, rex and chucks aggressive bring all hell attacking style of defense which greg and dean do not know how to run because it is too complex for them. maybe frazier gets a chance down the road but that would make for personnel and scheme issues because he runs the tampa 2 defense. i just do not want to see us waste a whole season waiting for harbs too realize that pees is not the right guy so im hoping pees does come up with more aggressive schemes and allows guys like frazier and martindale to help come up with schemes that caters to our personnel. we are not a feared defense any longer and we need to get back to being the bullies on the block. front office needs to bring in some speed on defense and guys that can attack the qb

I have never been a fan of pees, and yes i do like the fact that he had no desire to be a head coach.

maybe behind the scenes FRASIER is the man, he had other offers to be a DC and chose us.

last question usually DC success brings attention to become a HC,

he comes in turns the defense around and he is gone,

the dreaded double edge sword.

Do you think he wants another HC, position or do you think it may be a while. 

 

[TheConquerorWorm]

17 hours ago, The Greek said:

von miller wreaked havoc on brady with his blitzes yet i rarely saw pees utilize any of our ilb's that way and sending a cb or safety on a blitz was rare.

 

 

 

Von Miller plays OLB (not ILB) just like Suggs & Doom  - you're saying you didn't see those guys wreaking havoc last year when healthy? Denver runs the same defense as Pees but you praise them and trash Pees....lol.

[CaliRavenFan]

I am hoping we hire Ray Lewis to bring some life to this Defense as DC. Tell me there is not a man that knows this Defense or how to Play Like a Raven. If we even hired him as a Defensive Assistant it would be the best move this offseason any team makes.

We will make 2 major moves in the Free Agency by resigning K.O and Tucker. That will be enough to make me happy, Upshaw would be a great bonus but I wouldn't be sad seeing him get his big pay day.

[rmcjacket23]

57 minutes ago, CaliRavenFan said:

I am hoping we hire Ray Lewis to bring some life to this Defense as DC. Tell me there is not a man that knows this Defense or how to Play Like a Raven. If we even hired him as a Defensive Assistant it would be the best move this offseason any team makes.

We will make 2 major moves in the Free Agency by resigning K.O and Tucker. That will be enough to make me happy, Upshaw would be a great bonus but I wouldn't be sad seeing him get his big pay day.

Most great players don't make good coaches...

[ellicottraven]

I have only one request of you Mr. Eisenberg. Please don't ever mention Peter King and the Ravens in the same article first and foremost. However, mentioning Peter King and the Ravens in the same sentence is tantamount to football blasphemy. Every time Peter King pronounces how great we are or how we are going to end up in the SB, the exact opposite typically happens. Heck, I'm considering signing a petition of Ravens fans so we can get a court order for him to ever prop our team up again...

[balfan23]

"it's hardly breaking news that the Ravens are unlikely to go high-end shopping." -- yet for some reason, a small segment of the fan base needs to be reminded. Still, I intend to look at the free agent list, to see what reasonable players are available to us. It won't take that long ... I'll still be able to read a book if I so desire :-)

[RavenManiac#7]

Any chance to of getting the old format back?

I'll second that.

[RavenManiac#7]

  On January 30, 2016 at 2:49 AM, The Greek said:

too much effort now to check if anyone liked or disliked your posts under this new format. too much back and forth to the forum. not a fan of the new format. they need players like monroe to stay healthy so they do not cut players post june 1st to give us some cap $$ but give us the dreaded dead $$ as well. i would take caution in signing a guy like alshon jeffery because he has missed games the past 2 seasons with injuries and he is a player that will not come cheap. the key is to draft better and for the coaching staff to utilize the talent they have with better schemes. von miller wreaked havoc on brady with his blitzes yet i rarely saw pees utilize any of our ilb's that way and sending a cb or safety on a blitz was rare.

 

 

 

I agree, the new format sucks... almost as much as Pees' schemes

I'll second that, too.

[RavenManiac#7]

Does Anyone like the new format? If it ain't broke, don't fix it!