Dubs Mock & Big Board v.2

[Dubs]

Not Sure how many versions I will have but seems fitting with Senior Bowl wrapping up. However, I will say i did not get to see as much as usual as the coverage in Canada is hideous, so only recaps on NFLN.

 

Big Board

1. Laremy Tunsil | LT

2. Jalen Ramsey | CB

3. Joey Bosa | Edge 

4. Laquon Treadwell | WR

5. Ronnie Stanley | LT

6. DeForest Buckner | DL

7. Noah Spence | Edge 

8. Vernon Haergraves | CB 

9. Mackensie Alexander | CB 

10. Myles Jack | LB 

11. Jaylon Smith | LB 

12. Sheldon Rankins | DL  

13. Reggie Ragland | LB

14. A'Shawn Robinson | DL

15. Eli Apple | CB

16. Corey Coleman | WR

17. Andrew Billings | DL 

18. Kendall Fuller | CB

19. Emmanuel Ogbah | Edge

20. Kevin Dodd | Edge

21. Jarran Reed | DL

22. Jack Conklin | OL

23. Robert Nkemdiche | DL

24. Taylor Decker | OT

25. Vernon Butler | DL 

26. Darian Thompson | S

27. Carl Nassib | Edge

28. Michael Thomas | WR

29. Jason Spriggs | OT

30. Kenny Clark | DL

31. Shaq Lawson | Edge 

32. Leonard Floyd | Edge

 

 

Mock Draft

1) Titans: Laremy Tunsil | LT

2) Browns: Jared Goff, QB

3) Chargers: Jalen Ramsey | DB

4) Cowboys: Carson Wentz | QB

5) Jaguars: DeForest Buckner | DL

 

1st Round: Joey Bosa | Edge | Ohio St.

Of what I now call the big three (Tunsil, Bosa & Ramsey) I think Bosa has the best shot at getting to us. As many have said he may not have that quick twitch or skill set that will make teams in the top 5 pull the trigger but he is a football player. As most know he has seen double teams and more and has done well still, it says a lot to his preparation and ethic. 

 

2nd Round: Kendall Fuller | CB | VT

I think his testing/ showing he has come back from injury is big for him. If he runs and looks healthy I can see him being a top 20 type pick. Athletically everything is there, but he has some major issues in not turning his head and getting off blocks at times...I could see him having a difficult transition with the NFL rules. I do think Leslie Frazier would be a great coach though to bring him along.

 

3rd Round: *Trade late rounder to move up* Will Fuller | WR | Notre Dame

I always get weary when I see size numbers like his but with the way he plays there really should be no reason he cannot make an impact. He really is a playmaker and we desperately need someone to not only push the defence vertically but also make defences cover horizontally (in the flats, on screens, end arounds, etc.). I am really looking forward to seeing him at the combine as he has some kicks on film, especially once in the open field. He reminds me so much of the type of WR the Steelers have been hitting on and making a living the past couple of years with Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders, and Markus Wheaton. Lets hope we can finally make a mid round WR--I like Trestman for getting the ball in the hands of players on the outside, sometimes a little too much though.

 

4th Round: Matt Ioannidis | DL | Temple

Has looked really good at the Senior Bowl, we always seem to draft atleast a couple guys from there, he seems like the kind we like. One of my favourite players, think he will do well with coaching. Not sure if he will be able to crack our depth but we should be having some changes in the next year or two with Urban needing to show if he can stay healthy and Canty gone.

 

4th round (from Trade): Joe Dahl | OG | Washington St.

Another guy I have enjoyed watching over the Senior Bowl. Has good size, solid technique and great attitude. Think he will turn into a solid starter in the NFL and may be able to be our future at LG in a couple years with Urschel on the inside.

 

4th round (Comp.): Jordan Jenkins | Edge

Upshot will likely be gone, Jenkins seems to be a spitting image of him. We need guys on the edge that can stop the run and give breathers to our pure rushers. Think he will be a great role player that allows our D to both stay physical and rotate our players for what they are best at.

 

5th Round (Comp.): Jonathon Jones | CB | Auburn

Of all the "non names" at the Senior Bowl he caught my eye. He is fluid, quick, and looks to be a guy who can cover those agile slot receivers. I really hope we double dip at CB as we have banked too much on health for a couple years now with it not going too well.

 

...gonna stop there..

 

 

 

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Love it. Realistic to an extent, Will fuller in the 3rd sounds like a pipe dream but I'd be very happy with this, it would be a real statement draft and the beginning of the era where harbs finally leaves his stamp on the organization

[PurpleCity5]

I think  Will Fuller's hands can drop him a bit. I think he could be there by our 3rd. I've seen people compare him to Torrey and I honestly think his route running and mechanics are a bit better than Torrey's was coming out of college. He's not my top guy by any stretch of the imagination but a 3rd round pick? Yes please. 

 

I think Bosa could work in a OLB role. It could take some time but I think he can work out there and on passing downs he moves inside while Sizzle and Doom rush from the outside. It could wreck havoc upon offensive lines. 

 

I'm big on Kendall Fuller, I think he could be better than his brother Kyle Fuller. 

[rmw10]

I don't know where Fuller is going to go.  I want to question the 3rd round but I also recognize that he has some pretty big issues with his hands.  Then, I look at that insane burst when the ball is in the air and I want to call him a 1st rounder.  He's one that I'm going to question throughout the entire process.  There's a lot to like and a lot not to like.

[hn68wb4]

I still don't know if I can buy Bosa making it to 6 (not to mention being the second Dlineman drafted). Some argue that he's the best overall talent in the draft and would go #1 if the Titans needed a DE. I'd be ecstatic if he made it down to 6 but I just don't see him making it, there are a couple teams ahead of us that could easily take him and I think one of them will.

[JoeyFlex5]

13 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I still don't know if I can buy Bosa making it to 6 (not to mention being the second Dlineman drafted). Some argue that he's the best overall talent in the draft and would go #1 if the Titans needed a DE. I'd be ecstatic if he made it down to 6 but I just don't see him making it, there are a couple teams ahead of us that could easily take him and I think one of them will.

some also argue deforest buckner is the better prospect, some even argue he may be the top talent in the draft.

[hn68wb4]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

some also argue deforest buckner is the better prospect, some even argue he may be the top talent in the draft.

I love Buckner and personally I think he'd be a better pick for our defense because he'd be on the Dline, while Bosa may be forced to play OLB (which I don't love).  I'm just saying that I don't think Bosa would fall below Buckner (barring something happening before the draft).

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I love Buckner and personally I think he'd be a better pick for our defense because he'd be on the Dline, while Bosa may be forced to play OLB (which I don't love).  I'm just saying that I don't think Bosa would fall below Buckner (barring something happening before the draft).

well it has been noted that the bosa hype is largely a media product. 

 

i could see it very similar to leonard williams last year, nobody on these boards would have predicted him falling to 6th, id say that wouldve seemed much less likely than bosa falling to 6th

[RaineV1]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

well it has been noted that the bosa hype is largely a media product. 

 

i could see it very similar to leonard williams last year, nobody on these boards would have predicted him falling to 6th, id say that wouldve seemed much less likely than bosa falling to 6th

If Bosa hype really is more media hype instead of the teams liking him, then I can see the Ravens passing on him too. Ozzie has never been one to buy into the media darlings.

[JoeyFlex5]

10 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

If Bosa hype really is more media hype instead of the teams liking him, then I can see the Ravens passing on him too. Ozzie has never been one to buy into the media darlings.

its not ALL media hype but it definitely plays a role, i absolutely could see him falling to 6th. 

 

honestly though i dont see ozzie passing. you say he doesnt buy into media darlings but he took troy smith, tyrod taylor, courtney upshaw, terrence cody, you could make an argument that all of these guys were media darlings in a way. ill admith though 6th overall pick is a totally different story

[Mad Puppy]

I'm not a Collegiate Football watcher, but am seeing a lot of press for Sterling Shepard. Would he be available in the 3rd? Seems a great option for WR also.

 

Really like this mock though I wonder of Bosa fits the Ravens Defense? Seems a better fit for the 4-3?

[harfordravenfan]

On ‎1‎/‎30‎/‎2016 at 1:48 AM, PurpleCity5 said:

I think  Will Fuller's hands can drop him a bit. I think he could be there by our 3rd. I've seen people compare him to Torrey and I honestly think his route running and mechanics are a bit better than Torrey's was coming out of college. He's not my top guy by any stretch of the imagination but a 3rd round pick? Yes please. 

 

I think Bosa could work in a OLB role. It could take some time but I think he can work out there and on passing downs he moves inside while Sizzle and Doom rush from the outside. It could wreck havoc upon offensive lines. 

 

I'm big on Kendall Fuller, I think he could be better than his brother Kyle Fuller. 

Sizzle, Bosa, Williams, Jerrigan, and Doom... That would be a pretty nasty line up as he develops (replacing him with Buckner would be also) 

[PurpleCity5]

43 minutes ago, harfordravenfan2 said:

Sizzle, Bosa, Williams, Jerrigan, and Doom... That would be a pretty nasty line up as he develops (replacing him with Buckner would be also) 

Yeah, that would terrorize offensive lines. 

[January J]

My big board is pretty much the exact same, except I've got Buckner right above tread. Other than that my board is pretty much identical to a T.  As far as the mock goes I like that too, except I'd probably go after a different receiver- fuller is not my favorite.

[jazz1988]

2 hours ago, Mad Puppy said:

I'm not a Collegiate Football watcher, but am seeing a lot of press for Sterling Shepard. Would he be available in the 3rd? Seems a great option for WR also.

 

Really like this mock though I wonder of Bosa fits the Ravens Defense? Seems a better fit for the 4-3?

It's quite possible he will be available in the 3rd especially because of his height but combine performances can change things.

[jazz1988]

i like Joey Bosa and the guy is a very talented player but I'm just not sure if he's a good fit for Dean Pees defensive scheme. He could work out but I'm just skeptical about that.

[RavensDieHard21]

I'm so skeptical of our young talent in pees's scheme. I feel he slows their development and doesn't y to the strength of our players. But anyway, love the mock, I've been saying over and over that red 1 and 2 should be dedicated to a combo of pass rushers and corners.

[Drew P]

After the Senior Bowl Wentz is now a 2nd rounder at best. I cant see the Chargers ignoring their O line.

[Boddiebroadus]

With Floyd so low on your board I hope other teams have him this low too. Then we could trade back up to the bottom of the first to get him. 

[trevorsteadman]

If we somehow ended up drafting Jalen Ramsey and then somehow got Noah Spence with our second round pick or trading up into the late first I would be a very happy man. 

[Dubs]

On January 31, 2016 at 0:25 PM, jazz1988 said:

i like Joey Bosa and the guy is a very talented player but I'm just not sure if he's a good fit for Dean Pees defensive scheme. He could work out but I'm just skeptical about that.

 

I tend to agree with you and a guy like Noah Spence may be the better fit schematically. But then I begin to think some 50%+ of our defensive plays on defence are likely in a sub package...our division may not be as high as others but I think looking at scheme on our base D is getting more and more irrelevant in how teams draft. I see him being a Michael Bennett type player (maybe not the same jump and get off) who is a terror in that tweeter DT/DE role rushing the inside. Totally agree as I am skeptical on fit but I think it should work well given modern offences 

 

 

14 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I'm so skeptical of our young talent in pees's scheme. I feel he slows their development and doesn't y to the strength of our players. But anyway, love the mock, I've been saying over and over that red 1 and 2 should be dedicated to a combo of pass rushers and corners.

 

I would agree on both accounts--Pees tends to not put young guys in till it is clear they know the system well. He has done well with situational pass rushers though so i will give him credit where it is due Ladarius Smith and Pernell McPhee standout in that regard. I really hope our best value in the first two round is some combo of CB and Pass rusher...I think at our 2nd rounder our best value may be at interior DL just because there are so many good players in this draft, so i would not mind scooping up one of them (would love Sheldon Rankins--could see him being Muhammed Wilkerson esche)

[January J]

10 hours ago, Drew P said:

 After the Senior bowl Wentz is now a 2nd rounder  at best. I cant see the Chargers ignoring their O line. 

Wrong. Wentz will no Question be a first Rounder and Very well could be the first qb off the board. Hes All people are talking about right now and Has skyrocketed up most analysts boards. I am 75% sure that the cowboys will take him at 4 if the browns dont Take him first.

[PurpleCity5]

9 minutes ago, January J said:

Wrong. Wentz will no Question be a first Rounder and Very well could be the first qb off the board. Hes All people are talking about right now and Has skyrocketed up most analysts boards. I am 75% sure that the cowboys will take him at 4 if the browns dont Take him first.

Do the Cowboys really believe they have 4-5 years left of Tony Romo? This is a guy who didn't finish a season in what, the last 3 out of 4 years? They really have to consider a QB there. 

Edited February 2, 2016 by PurpleCity5

[January J]

On Monday, February 01, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Drew P said:

13 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

Do the cowboys really believe they have  4-5 years left of Tony Romo? This is a  guy who didn't finjussh a season in what, the last 3 o ut of 4 years? They really have to consider a QB there. 

 

Exactly. And even If they do think tony Has a few years left why not take a guy now to start grooming Him behind him? Smart teams dont Wait until something is a glaring need, they knock it out ahead of time. I just dont  See jerry Rolling the dice Again without a Contigency Plan and having to suffer through another season like this one. I Dont Think johnny Or rg3 is the answer. They want somebody they can mold from theground up without bad habits. Ialso  Dont Think they believe they will be picking this High again for awhile. It just makes too much sense, and the closer we get to draft day the more hype there will be surrounding wentz- i Just dont Think jerry Will be able to help himself.

[GrimCoconut]

13 hours ago, January J said:

Wrong. Wentz will no Question be a first Rounder and Very well could be the first qb off the board. Hes All people are talking about right now and Has skyrocketed up most analysts boards. I am 75% sure that the cowboys will take him at 4 if the browns dont Take him first.

 

13 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

Do the Cowboys really believe they have 4-5 years left of Tony Romo? This is a guy who didn't finish a season in what, the last 3 out of 4 years? They really have to consider a QB there. 

This situation reminds me of Mariota and Winston last year, and Luck and RG3 to a lesser extent. This QB class is far better than the 2013 one, which only saw one QB go in the first.

[Jaybirds]

10 minutes ago, January J said:

Exactly. And even If they do think tony Has a few years left why not take a guy now to start grooming Him behind him? Smart teams dont Wait until something is a glaring need, they knock it out ahead of time. I just dont  See jerry Rolling the dice Again without a Contigency Plan and having to suffer through another season like this one. I Dont Think johnny Or rg3 is the answer. They want somebody they can mold from theground up without bad habits. Ialso  Dont Think they believe they will be picking this High again for awhile. It just makes too much sense, and the closer we get to draft day the more hype there will be surrounding wentz- i Just dont Think jerry Will be able to help himself.

Does this change if Manziel becomes available?  Because that's looking like a real possibility. 

[Drew P]

13 hours ago, January J said:

Wrong. Wentz will no Question be a first Rounder and Very well could be the first qb off the board. Hes All people are talking about right now and Has skyrocketed up most analysts boards. I am 75% sure that the cowboys will take him at 4 if the browns dont Take him first.

Probably will go in the first due to a thin QB class and his measurables. I dont think Dallas will because they are all in on Romo and want to give him another WR and a RB. I can see them selecting Tread or even Zeke in the first.

[January J]

On Monday, February 01, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Drew P said:

13 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

19 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

Does this change if manziel becomes available?  Because that's looking  like a real possibility.   

 

 

No, Like i Said hes Not the answer, and it would be wiser to take somebody they can mold from theground up. More videos Are Coming out of him partying in downtown dallas, if he was a cowboy this would be a weekly occurunce. Although jerry Has been known to do stupid things, i think the hype of wentz and the thought of having a potential franchise qb Waiting in the wings will entice him. Not to mention hes A business man, and wentz will be cheaper over the next 4-5 years.

[Jaybirds]

1 minute ago, January J said:

No, Like i Said hes Not the answer, and it would be wiser to take somebody they can mold from theground up. More videos Are Coming out of him partying in downtown dallas, if he was a cowboy this would be a weekly occurunce. Although jerry Has been known to do stupid things, i think the hype of wentz and the thought of having a potential franchise qb Waiting in the wings will entice him. Not to mention hes A business man, and wentz will be cheaper over the next 4-5 years.

Fair enough.  I'm not going to try to predict Jones' mind, but I do see what you're saying.  I guess I'm speculating that Jones is infatuated with Manziel's Texas fans still.  But it might not be worth it anymore. 

[January J]

On Monday, February 01, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Drew P said:

14 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

34 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

10 minutes ago, Jaybirds said:

Fair enough.  I'm not going to try to predict Jones' mind, but I do see what you're saying.  I guess I'm speculating that Jones is infatuated with Manziel's Texas fans still.  But it might not be worth it anymore. 

 

 

Very possible, and like i Said he is known to make stupid Rash decisions and take chances. Btw i Have no idea why it keeps quoting multiple users. Ive Tried deleting them but it wont Let me..this new update is killing me. But yeah i Apologize for the sloppy posts.