Pre-Combine Mock Draft

[PurpleCity5]

I did not anticipate to make a mock right now since I felt it was fairly early since I made my last one, but I've had changes in how I felt about prospects, so greatly that I felt like how I felt about this entire draft as a whole has changed as well. Anyways, he's pretty much my updated opinion on how things could go down.

 

For my first two picks, I will admit I wasn't convinced that either of them would be the two best at their positions, but after watching both more, I'm very well convinced they will be great players in the future. My opinion on the both of them has greatly changed and personally, I think they would be great fits for this team. 

 

Round 1, Pick 6: Noah Spence OLB Eastern Kentucky: You can call me out on this. I wasn't big on this pick not because of talent but because I wasn't fully convinced that it was worth the risk. After listening to Spence's interviews and hearing him talk, I'm far more convinced that getting banned from Ohio State was the best thing that happened to him honestly. I think that in the end, the interview process is what decides where he goes and IMO, he's said all the right things. I had my reservations about picking him here, but after thinking about it some more, if he's your BPA, then take him.

 

 

Round 2, Pick 36: Corey Coleman WR Baylor: I can honestly understand the fear of Baylor WRs due to the spread, but there has been plenty of successful WRs from Baylor lately which includes, Josh Gordon, Kendall Wright, and Terrence Williams. I think the 2nd round is the sweet spot for a WR and just a perfect place to take one. I'm well convinced that Corey Coleman will be a great WR in the future. I personally think the need for a slot WR is a very underrated one and Coleman can more than function in the slot, however he's just as dynamic in the outside. In the future, I imagine he'll be one of the best route runners in the NFL due to his quick feet, coordination and explosiveness. We obviously have the need for a play-maker, and Coleman is the type of guy who can turn a 12 yard catch, into an 60 yard Touchdown. He's so aware, he always finds the sweet-spots in coverage and makes separation look too easy. I hate it when people compare 5-10 WRs to Steve Smith or Antonio Brown, but Coleman just shows flashes of those guys. 

 

 

 

Round 3, Pick 70: Artie Burns CB Miami: I haven't talked about him much, but Burns is very underrated. He's fluid, has ball-skills and has the speed to keep up with modern day NFL WRs. People try to say he's a developmental prospect with being very young at age 20 and an athlete first, but I don't buy it. His long arms allows him to press very well at the line of scrimmage, but he can function pretty well in off-man and zone. I don't know if Burns will last here after the combine, but if so he would be a steal in the 3rd round. 

 

Round 4:D.J White CB Georgia Tech: There's plenty to like about White, he displays plenty of what you would like out of a CB, good mechanics, quick reactions, and great change of direction. He's a pretty unknown prospect but I think he would be a good pick here. 

 

Round 5: Cole Toner OT Harvard

 

Round 6: Antonio Morrison ILB Florida

[Baltimore RAYvens]

The more I listen to Noah Spence the more he jumps up on my board. I'm anxious to hear how teams view him after interviewing him at the combine, if he grades out well with them I'm down with taking him high.

I love Corey Coleman has a prospect and outside of Bosa he's the guy I want most in a Ravens uniform.

I'm also in agreement with you that we double up on CB and possibly back to back

[PurpleCity5]

2 minutes ago, Baltimore RAYvens said:

The more I listen to Noah Spence the more he jumps up on my board. I'm anxious to hear how teams view him after interviewing him at the combine, if he grades out well with them I'm down with taking him high.

I love Corey Coleman has a prospect and outside of Bosa he's the guy I want most in a Ravens uniform.

I'm also in agreement with you that we double up on CB and possibly back to back

I was very weary about Spence. You can get a guy who will be a perennial pro-bowler, or someone who can't get their life together. He can make a lot of GMs regret passing on him. 

[BmoreBird22]

The issue I have with Coleman is the he dropped roughly 12% of his passes, I believe, and most of those drops that he had came when approaching or going across the middle. You talk about him playing in the slot, but he hasn't shown a consistent ability to win across the middle or even a route tree that extends across the middle on a consistent basis. 

I think he'll be able to function fine on the outside, but I'm wary of him.

[Baltimore RAYvens]

2 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I was very weary about Spence. You can get a guy who will be a perennial pro-bowler, or someone who can't get their life together. He can make a lot of GMs regret passing on him. 

With you grabbing him at 6 I'm guessing you've come around and think he can be the first statement? He seems very remorseful for what happened and seems to have eliminated that part of his life. Sounds like he dumped that whole circle of friends and everything

[RaineV1]

It really looks like being kicked off the Ohio team was exactly what Spence needed to get his life in order. He's become one of my favorite options for the 6th pick (for me it'd between him, Alexander, and Stanley). And I think the Ravens have a good atmosphere for helping him to keep clean. After the eventual retirements of Suggs and Doom, Spence and ZDS would be a good pair of starting OLBs.

I'm still not quite sold on Coleman. I don't think he'll be bad, it's just that there are other receivers I can see out performing him. If they're available, I'd rather have Boyd or Doctson.

I really like Morrison as a player. If the Ravens can get him at any point in the mid to late rounds I'd be pretty happy.

[52liveforever]

4 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The issue I have with Coleman is the he dropped roughly 12% of his passes, I believe, and most of those drops that he had came when approaching or going across the middle. You talk about him playing in the slot, but he hasn't shown a consistent ability to win across the middle or even a route tree that extends across the middle on a consistent basis. 

I think he'll be able to function fine on the outside, but I'm wary of him.

 

I'd feel much better about taking sterling Shepard in the third if he's there. I think his stock is going to rise going forward.

[DomMcRaven]

7 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I did not anticipate to make a mock right now since I felt it was fairly early since I made my last one, but I've had changes in how I felt about prospects, so greatly that I felt like how I felt about this entire draft as a whole has changed as well. Anyways, he's pretty much my updated opinion on how things could go down.

 

I am actually disappointed for one reason: seeing the word play-making ONLY ONCE (can't italicize for some reason). I expected more and better from you.   

[GrimCoconut]

I feel pretty strongly that we won't get a WR in the second round. I actually think we will end up taking Spence at #6 overall or trading back some to get him if the opportunity presents. I think the Ravens will get excited about him and take him as the replacement for Suggs. He's honestly a really good player and he's become very underrated to an unfair degree. I understand that the drugs get people concerned but he's a good player and he's a good fit for this team. I won't bother hyping him up anymore, though--I'll let him do that for me. 

I like Coleman, but as I said I don't see us getting a WR here in the second. I think a lot of the guys people want to say make it to us don't. I'm not going to discuss value, though, here. A guy I really like is my man Hunter Sharp from Utah State. I think he will get a lot of talk the closer we get to Draft day, but that guy is good. I think highly of him from what I've seen of him and I really like the way he runs his routes and his explosiveness and his speed. He's got speed. I'd keep an eye on him. 

I think we take a CB in the second like, such as Kendall Fuller. If I had to guess today, I'd say our first three picks will be something like Noah Spence, Kendall Fuller, and perhaps my guy Dahl in the 3rd if he gets some attention and looks good enough, with a WR like my guy Sharp in the 4th. 

[allblackraven]

3 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

I feel pretty strongly that we won't get a WR in the second round. I actually think we will end up taking Spence at #6 overall or trading back some to get him if the opportunity presents. I think the Ravens will get excited about him and take him as the replacement for Suggs. He's honestly a really good player and he's become very underrated to an unfair degree. I understand that the drugs get people concerned but he's a good player and he's a good fit for this team. I won't bother hyping him up anymore, though--I'll let him do that for me. 

I like Coleman, but as I said I don't see us getting a WR here in the second. I think a lot of the guys people want to say make it to us don't. I'm not going to discuss value, though, here. A guy I really like is my man Hunter Sharp from Utah State. I think he will get a lot of talk the closer we get to Draft day, but that guy is good. I think highly of him from what I've seen of him and I really like the way he runs his routes and his explosiveness and his speed. He's got speed. I'd keep an eye on him. 

I think we take a CB in the second like, such as Kendall Fuller. If I had to guess today, I'd say our first three picks will be something like Noah Spence, Kendall Fuller, and perhaps my guy Dahl in the 3rd if he gets some attention and looks good enough, with a WR like my guy Sharp in the 4th. 

Lol, you just confirmed my mock. Different players in 3rd and 4th but OL and WR nonetheless.

I guess we'd get a better feel after the FA is done. There's also a possibility we start building 43, taking mobile/quick/hybrid LB and true 43 DE. There's a lot of players coming out of college in that mould (and numbers will only increase, I think). If we stick with what we normally do, I fear we might be missing on some great talent in years to come.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Coleman isn't a slot guy, he struggles with his hands in traffic, however in 1v1 situations the boys tenacity and aggression in his pursuit to the ball are very impressive, and he does appear to have the makings of a good route runner, I'm just not sold yet though... 

 

Great draft though, I'd be ecstatic, solid 33rd rounder too

[CalvinSmoke]

6 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The issue I have with Coleman is the he dropped roughly 12% of his passes, I believe, and most of those drops that he had came when approaching or going across the middle. You talk about him playing in the slot, but he hasn't shown a consistent ability to win across the middle or even a route tree that extends across the middle on a consistent basis. 

I think he'll be able to function fine on the outside, but I'm wary of him.

I'm with you here, I would anticipate Perriman and Coleman on the outside actually, with Aiken in the slot down the road. 

[PurpleCity5]

5 hours ago, Baltimore RAYvens said:

With you grabbing him at 6 I'm guessing you've come around and think he can be the first statement? He seems very remorseful for what happened and seems to have eliminated that part of his life. Sounds like he dumped that whole circle of friends and everything

I think he has changed, I personally think some things that Spence has went through could change him for the better honestly. 

[RavensDieHard21]

Spence at 6, hmmmm. Great talent and with a stellar combine, his stock will explode. I wish their was a Khalil Mack in this years draft.

[PurpleCity5]

14 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I feel pretty strongly that we won't get a WR in the second round. I actually think we will end up taking Spence at #6 overall or trading back some to get him if the opportunity presents. I think the Ravens will get excited about him and take him as the replacement for Suggs. He's honestly a really good player and he's become very underrated to an unfair degree. I understand that the drugs get people concerned but he's a good player and he's a good fit for this team. I won't bother hyping him up anymore, though--I'll let him do that for me. 

I like Coleman, but as I said I don't see us getting a WR here in the second. I think a lot of the guys people want to say make it to us don't. I'm not going to discuss value, though, here. A guy I really like is my man Hunter Sharp from Utah State. I think he will get a lot of talk the closer we get to Draft day, but that guy is good. I think highly of him from what I've seen of him and I really like the way he runs his routes and his explosiveness and his speed. He's got speed. I'd keep an eye on him. 

I think we take a CB in the second like, such as Kendall Fuller. If I had to guess today, I'd say our first three picks will be something like Noah Spence, Kendall Fuller, and perhaps my guy Dahl in the 3rd if he gets some attention and looks good enough, with a WR like my guy Sharp in the 4th. 

I like WR more in the 2nd than CB. I think some of the CBs such as Kendall Fuller and Eli Apple could actually get into he 1st round and after that there isn't one CB I would take over Corey Coleman. There is obvious talent at WR in the 2nd round with Corey Coleman, Michael Thomas and Tyler Boyd, while I don't believe the three of these guys will all make it to our 2nd round pick, I believe that at least one of hem will be there. I'd love to see us get one of them, the only guy who can convince me of going in another direction is Kendall Fuller, outside of that I don't think there is any CB who I'd take over them even though its a bigger need and thats because I believe that Coleman and Boyd are significantly better. 

I don't like to say that a certain guy will rise to much, I don't like to make predictions like that but with Tre'davious White and Desmond King staying in school, I think the guy who could be the biggest beneficiary from that is Kendall Fuller, it remains to be seen where he goes but I could see him landing in the first. 

 

I personally think that our draft could go multiple ways but the 2nd round screams WR. 

[GrimCoconut]

@PurpleCity5 it's very possible. I'm not commenting on who isn't there. I hate that kind of criticism; rather I think that a CB will be there and we'll take him unless Ramsey or Alexander or someone like that is our first pick. I think Boyd is the likeliest of the bunch because of many factors. I'd have to think on taking him though if Fuller and/or Apple are there. You could be right and one could be gone, but if one of them is there I'd likely take them. 

Have you watched my man Sharp from Utah State? He's really good man. Watch him. I think he'll be a great third or fourth round pick. 

[PurpleCity5]

19 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The issue I have with Coleman is the he dropped roughly 12% of his passes, I believe, and most of those drops that he had came when approaching or going across the middle. You talk about him playing in the slot, but he hasn't shown a consistent ability to win across the middle or even a route tree that extends across the middle on a consistent basis. 

I think he'll be able to function fine on the outside, but I'm wary of him.

While its not uncommon for WRs to drop passes over the middle, you certainly have a point. I do believe he can be a slot WR simply because of his ability to recognize zone weaknesses and his amazing combination of speed and footwork. 

 

As far as his route running goes, its not a deal-breaker for me, I think he can develop into a great route runner because of his footwork and quickness. I personally see him as unproven in that area, his vertical routes are a thing of beauty though. 

[PurpleCity5]

1 minute ago, GrimCoconut said:

@PurpleCity5 it's very possible. I'm not commenting on who isn't there. I hate that kind of criticism; rather I think that a CB will be there and we'll take him unless Ramsey or Alexander or someone like that is our first pick. I think Boyd is the likeliest of the bunch because of many factors. I'd have to think on taking him though if Fuller and/or Apple are there. You could be right and one could be gone, but if one of them is there I'd likely take them. 

Have you watched my man Sharp from Utah State? He's really good man. Watch him. I think he'll be a great third or fourth round pick. 

I really don't like to think a player will all he sudden be gone before the combine, its rather unusual but I could see Fuller seeing a first due to outside factors. In all honesty he's the only guy that would stop me from picking Coleman or Boyd, I just personally think both are significantly better than any CB outside of Fuller and Apple. I like Apple as well, but I do like Coleman and Boyd better too. FWIW, I think we could have some money to play with in FA and I believe that a CB will be targeted there. I was split on Boyd and Coleman but I like Coleman more as of now, I think he's the better play-maker and has a higher ceiling, as I said before hate comparing 5-10 WRs to Steve Smith, Antonio Brown or Odell Beckham because of height but Coleman just reveals shades of them. I also imagine Coleman to be a guy who can separate on almost every play. 

[January J]

I like. Pretty strong mock. Like you said I might go corner in the second if fuller or Apple are there and then I might take a chance on a guy like miller in the third or pick up Sheppard if he doesn't raise his stock too much and go higher. Then hopefully a guy like Dahl falls to the 4th, and I'd double up on cb and take Cyrus jones with one of our comp picks to get us some depth at the position along with a Pr/kr..but I also agree that it's possible we address the position in FA.  Either way good mock.

Edited January 29, 2016 by January J

[Wildabeast88]

I like Spence and Burns not a big Coleman fan would prefer Boyd Miller Doctson Fuller overColeman a solid mock overall would proably like 1 more pass rusher instead of 2 CBs but its good

Edited January 29, 2016 by Wildabeast88

[Edgar]

18 hours ago, 52liveforever said:

 

I'd feel much better about taking sterling Shepard in the third if he's there. I think his stock is going to rise going forward.

I think so too. He'll likely go in round two. 

[Edgar]

16 hours ago, GrimCoconut said:

I feel pretty strongly that we won't get a WR in the second round. I actually think we will end up taking Spence at #6 overall or trading back some to get him if the opportunity presents. I think the Ravens will get excited about him and take him as the replacement for Suggs. He's honestly a really good player and he's become very underrated to an unfair degree. I understand that the drugs get people concerned but he's a good player and he's a good fit for this team. I won't bother hyping him up anymore, though--I'll let him do that for me. 

I like Coleman, but as I said I don't see us getting a WR here in the second. I think a lot of the guys people want to say make it to us don't. I'm not going to discuss value, though, here. A guy I really like is my man Hunter Sharp from Utah State. I think he will get a lot of talk the closer we get to Draft day, but that guy is good. I think highly of him from what I've seen of him and I really like the way he runs his routes and his explosiveness and his speed. He's got speed. I'd keep an eye on him. 

I think we take a CB in the second like, such as Kendall Fuller. If I had to guess today, I'd say our first three picks will be something like Noah Spence, Kendall Fuller, and perhaps my guy Dahl in the 3rd if he gets some attention and looks good enough, with a WR like my guy Sharp in the 4th. 

I have a sense we could trade down in round two and in that case I can see us taking someone like Sheppard.

 

I'm guessing  spence will be our pick,unless he goes before we pick or if Tunsil or perhaps Bosa are available ...I wonder if you play around trading back if he's our guy.

[Winchester]

3 hours ago, January J said:

I like. Pretty strong mock. Like you said I might go corner in the second if fuller or Apple are there and then I might take a chance on a guy like miller in the third or pick up Sheppard if he doesn't raise his stock too much and go higher. Then hopefully a guy like Dahl falls to the 4th, and I'd double up on cb and take Cyrus jones with one of our comp picks to get us some depth at the position along with a Pr/kr..but I also agree that it's possible we address the position in FA.  Either way good mock.

Miller will not be available in round3. He could very likely go in round one especially if he runs sub 4.4. Receiver is still a very big need  to complete a prolific offense that has everything else in place.

[PurpleCity5]

4 hours ago, January J said:

I like. Pretty strong mock. Like you said I might go corner in the second if fuller or Apple are there and then I might take a chance on a guy like miller in the third or pick up Sheppard if he doesn't raise his stock too much and go higher. Then hopefully a guy like Dahl falls to the 4th, and I'd double up on cb and take Cyrus jones with one of our comp picks to get us some depth at the position along with a Pr/kr..but I also agree that it's possible we address the position in FA.  Either way good mock.

I like Fuller and Apple, I would pick Fuller over Coleman, I like Apple but I do have my questions about him. I like Coleman better who I think will be a stud at the next level. 

 

You brought up Miller and I see he's rising but I don't know man, I want to like him but I don't know how to feel about a guy who converted from QB to WR so late in his career. I think he has plenty of potential but I wonder how the trasition will go. People bring up guys like Anquan Boldin and Michael Crabtree and while they both have been successful, they didn't make the jump so late into their College careers. That's honestly my biggest concern. 

[January J]

1 hour ago, Winchester said:

Miller will not be available in round3. He could very likely go in round one especially if he runs sub 4.4. Receiver is still a very big need  to complete a prolific offense that has everything else in place.

Possibly but right now he's projected between rounds 3-4.

[January J]

11 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I like Fuller and Apple, I would pick Fuller over Coleman, I like Apple but I do have my questions about him. I like Coleman better who I think will be a stud at the next level. 

 

You brought up Miller and I see he's rising but I don't know man, I want to like him but I don't know how to feel about a guy who converted from QB to WR so late in his career. I think he has plenty of potential but I wonder how the trasition will go. People bring up guys like Anquan Boldin and Michael Crabtree and while they both have been successful, they didn't make the jump so late into their College careers. That's honestly my biggest concern. 

Yeah I hear ya- I'd tread very carefully and wouldn't pull the trigger unless He shows us a lot more. He worries me too but it's one of those things that just might be worth a shot if he falls a bit.

[Winchester]

That was last time projected. Next projections he will be top 45 picks. No chance he falls to round3 now.